Pokémon (Not-So) Griefing Thread - Scarlet and Violet Released with 10 Million Copies in First 3 Days in Buggy States

[Archeops]

So I was apparently right about the release of Champion's Path being an absolute shitshow. Products are selling out after minutes of being in-stock online, brick-and-mortar stores are usually selling out THE MINUTE they're stocked, local comic/game shops and scalpers on eBay are selling said products for WELL above MSRP, and the two secret-rares cards in the set selling for over $500 a pop on eBay. I'll give you three guesses as to which Pokemon is featured in them and the first two don't count.

That said, TPCi SEEMS to be getting the picture here and actually addressed the problem...

https://twitter.com/playpokemon/status/1312203319432015873

UNFORTUNATELY they fucked up by not specifying if it's new products (that we already know about) coming out or if it's reissues of previous products like the pin collections and the Elite Trainer Box.

So yeah... Not looking good on TPCi's part.

 

[Chin of Campbell]

I think that despite all the backlash, bad moves by the company, and the Dexit, this is still a perfectly acceptable, and fun Pokemon game.

And that's all Pokemon will ever be, for the rest of its existence: acceptable with a wincing grin.

Don't call it a grave, it's the future we all chose.

 

[SnowBall]

Just finished Let’s Go Eevee, It was actually a ton of fun and better than I thought it would be. Also the entire game is ridiculously adorable and I spent a lot of time with the following Pokemon feature. I hate that in SwSh the following Pokemon don’t interact with you other than a “!”

That said was Kanto always this much of a slog to get through? Until you get the Poke Flute the railroading and high trainer battle density was just a pain.

 

[Kari Kamiya]

That said was Kanto always this much of a slog to get through? Until you get the Poke Flute the railroading and high trainer battle density was just a pain.

Think it depended on the kind of Pokémon you get, but yeah, it's pretty slow to get through in the beginning. Once your team gets to like their level 30s around the time you beat Erika, you can easily start sweeping through trainers on the regular. Going through the Safari Zone slows you down, though.

 

[UntimelyDhelmise]

I didn't and will not buy the DLC, so I'm kinda just waiting till the legendary spam drops to watch the singles meta (I've never cared about VGC) be torn asunder. It's so goddamn boring to watch currently thanks to Cuckgon banning every heavy hitter under the sun to the point where every battle is just a total stall slog fest.

Oh and get this. The idiots have genuinely started to ponder about banning Heavy-Duty Boots. They are that committed to sucking Stealth Cocks.

 

[Bunny Tracks]

Oh and get this. The idiots have genuinely started to ponder about banning Heavy-Duty Boots. They are that committed to sucking Stealth Cocks.

Banning something that was literally introduced to help rebalance the metagame?

Classic Smogon.

 

[UntimelyDhelmise]

Banning something that was literally introduced to help rebalance the metagame?

Classic Smogon.

For context, it's because players have started putting them on all the walls so hazard chip becomes impossible unless you run Knock Off on everything. But stall wouldn't be such an issue in the first place if Smogon would stop favoring it for five goddamn minutes.

 

[Nauseated Courgi]

I didn't and will not buy the DLC, so I'm kinda just waiting till the legendary spam drops to watch the singles meta (I've never cared about VGC) be torn asunder. It's so goddamn boring to watch currently thanks to Cuckgon banning every heavy hitter under the sun to the point where every battle is just a total stall slog fest.

Oh and get this. The idiots have genuinely started to ponder about banning Heavy-Duty Boots. They are that committed to sucking Stealth Cocks.

For context, it's because players have started putting them on all the walls so hazard chip becomes impossible unless you run Knock Off on everything. But stall wouldn't be such an issue in the first place if Smogon would stop favoring it for five goddamn minutes.

Don't see the point in banning them when there are other (granted not favorable, but still) counter strats to held items like it and the fact that it's seemingly done in response to Stall mons using them and not anything else.

When I went against players that used them in showdown, they weren't that big of a issue for me (mostly because I don't usually run hazard set up). This change is definitely going to do more harm than good.

 

[Trashfire Garbagefuck]

Heavy duty boots is hilarious and it's exactly what smogon deserved. Years of bitching about every little mechanic "oh no we can't have people using sleep moves more than once" yet stealth rock invalidating half the monster roster was fine with them.

 

[Creep3r]

Heavy duty boots is hilarious and it's exactly what smogon deserved. Years of bitching about every little mechanic "oh no we can't have people using sleep moves more than once" yet stealth rock invalidating half the monster roster was fine with them.

"Smogon: NOOOO! You can't just avoid stealth rock by putting on boots!"
"Volcarona: Hahaha heavy booties go stompy stompy"

 

[UntimelyDhelmise]

Heavy duty boots is hilarious and it's exactly what smogon deserved. Years of bitching about every little mechanic "oh no we can't have people using sleep moves more than once" yet stealth rock invalidating half the monster roster was fine with them.

The sleep clause made some bit of sense back in gen V due to how brutally broken the status condition was specifically at the time (if you switched out while asleep, all spent sleep turns on that mon would reset, even if using Rest). That and Breloom with Amoonguss meant you had your choice of a semi-fast sweeper or unkillable tank to put entire teams to sleep with and subsequently tear apart.

But like many things it's a leftover clause from an era long past that Smogon just never bothered to reevaluate.

 

[ToroidalBoat]

The 2nd to last battle of a Battle Test in ORAS can sometimes have a verteran or otherwise old trainer who uses all legendaries - which almost guarantees a lower score. Last time this lady veteran had an Articuno with the Mind Reader + Sheer Cold combo.

 

[Jean Lafitte 1812]

Personally I'm fine with sleep clause. It's been around since Nintendo Cup (Gen 1 VGCs) and Stadium for a reason: losing more than 1 Pokemon to Spore or Sleep Powder is bullshit. Smogon not reevaluating things is dumb though. They still ban Swift Swim and Drizzle combo if I'm remembering right, despite that combo not being broken like it was in Gen 5.

Speaking of Spore: if they ever bring Smeargle back Game Freak really need to change Spore so it fails if used by a non-Grass type. Having such a good move on otherwise weaker Pokemon is what balances it and Spore Smeargle is too versatile to be balanced.

 

[Nauseated Courgi]

Speaking of Spore: if they ever bring Smeargle back Game Freak really need to change Spore so it fails if used by a non-Grass type. Having such a good move on otherwise weaker Pokemon is what balances it and Spore Smeargle is too versatile to be balanced.

That or give it the toxic treatment and make to where the move is now less accurate (maybe 80% accurate), but it doesn't miss if user shares the move's typing. That way, the move is a little more distinct and isn't just "a sleep powder that doesn't initially miss" (yes, I'm aware that one of the distinct features of Spore is that the mons that have access to the move, except smeargle, have mushroom-like features).

 

[Dunsparce]

(yes, I'm aware that one of the distinct features of Spore is that the mons that have access to the move, except smeargle, have mushroom-like features).

Well, the Japanese name of the move IS "Mushroom Spore", after all.

 

[Nauseated Courgi]

Well, the Japanese name of the move IS "Mushroom Spore", after all.

Speaking of which, how many mushroom pokemon are there? Off the top of my head, I can name four (Shroomish line, Foongus line, Paras line and the Morelull line). Are they the only ones?

 

[Dunsparce]

Speaking of which, how many mushroom pokemon are there? Off the top of my head, I can name four (Shroomish line, Foongus line, Paras line and the Morelull line). Are they the only ones?

That is all of them. They introduced a two-stage Grass-type mushroom line in all four odd-numbered generations.

 

[Disc]

The 2nd to last battle of a Battle Test in ORAS can sometimes have a verteran or otherwise old trainer who uses all legendaries - which almost guarantees a lower score. Last time this lady veteran had an Articuno with the Mind Reader + Sheer Cold combo.

The adaptive team building has some really interesting quirks. In BW if you have in hacked Pokemon that have like, wonder guard and no weaknesses, the battle subway enemies will focus on status moves and other ways to drain your hp and so on. Go even further and they'll start carrying fire fang, that only works through wonder guard because of glitches. Fascinating stuff.

 

[starborn427614]

I got Pokemon Sword the other day, and I have to admit, it's not that bad. I actually like it.

It's fun, and I am having a really good time with it. I do have issues with it like GF fucking up Wonder Trading and the GTS again, and not being able to turn off the EXP Share ability, but it is fun. I like characters, especially Leon, and Piers, and I know I'm in the minority for this, but I think the graphics are just fine.

They're not mind-blowing, but they're not godawful like I thought they'd be. They even look really good some times like in the mines, and mushroom forests. There is an occasional lagging issue, and sometimes objects, players, and 'mons just spawn out of nowhere, but that's it really.

I think that despite all the backlash, bad moves by the company, and the Dexit, this is still a perfectly acceptable, and fun Pokemon game.

It's mostly just lacking graphical polish...or I guess polish in general. I'd always rather pick up Sword/Shield compared to the slog that was Gen IV even if the latter's world design etc. is better.

 

[FluffyTehFennekin]

Let’s be real here, most people got the game just so they can get off to all the cute Pokegirls. I will never the “waifu culture” of the Pokemon fandom.