Pokémon (Not-So) Griefing Thread - Scarlet and Violet Released with 10 Million Copies in First 3 Days in Buggy States

[Vapewizard]

Have you heard about pokemon Xenoverse? Been getting into it myself and it looks interesting enough.

Never heard of that one before, actually. Guess I'll put it on the mental list.

 

[ChucklesTheJester]

Damn it, I've been reading though the fangame let's plays that kiwis have been doing and that gives me an itch to play one myself, even though my game backlog is as tall as Mt Everest and the last two times I got that itch I played Pokemon Brown and Pokemon Zeta/Omicron(Don't remember which version) only partially and then dropped them. If I do end up giving in I'll probably try Insurgence or Sage since apparently those are some of the better fangames out there.

Just reading the page for Insurgence makes it sound great. Then I look at the wiki, the sprites look nice.
Then I read the reason given for why "delta pokemon exist"

Delta Pokémon were based on an idea scientists had about Pokémon to make them perfect.

What stupid scientist thought Charizard line needed to be ghosts, and Blastoise line needed to be weebs.
But if you look at delta pokemon pokedex entries it says that Scientists "discovered" them.

So did scientists make them, or discovered them, game?

I do like the Eevee Mega.

 

[Nauseated Courgi]

Just reading the page for Insurgence makes it sound great. Then I look at the wiki, the sprites look nice.
Then I read the reason given for why "delta pokemon exist"


What stupid scientist thought Charizard line needed to be ghosts, and Blastoise line needed to be weebs.
But if you look at delta pokemon pokedex entries it says that Scientists "discovered" them.

So did scientists make them, or discovered them, game?

I do like the Eevee Mega.

Wait until you see primal arceus and giratina.

They both have an ability that gives them every typing

 

[ChucklesTheJester]

Wait until you see primal arceus and giratina.

They both have an ability that gives them every typing

Christ in a hand basket. Thats almost as broken as Wack's Post-game type that only 1 boss has. Void.

https://pokemonwack.fandom.com/wiki/Void_(type)

Immune to everything but 4 types. Those 4 types are all also I think Post game types. The 4 it is not immune to are. Ogre,Void,Qmarks, and Wack. And these 4 types only do normal damage to it.

 

[Mother puss bucket]

Honestly I'm kind of excited for Pokemon Legends: Arceus. Arceus has always been my favorite Pokemon, and not only is he now the mascot of what I hope saves the franchise, but now he might be obtainable without cheating or events. I don't own a switch, but I might end up pre-ordering the game anyways (cause they sometimes come with like little figures or a poster stuff and that's kinda cool) and then if the game is any good, I'll buy the whole switch, and if the game sucks, I'll just resell the game and get some of my money back. I am disappointed that Chimchar isn't an available starter, but Oshawott is my second favorite, so I'll just choose him I guess.

And this is why no matter how bad Pokemon gets it will still sell millions of copies. You want to buy a game in case it comes with a poster despite not owning the console it's on or having any intention of playing it.

Legends looks like the wild area with Lets go catching done in the world map instead of inside it's battle system/another screen. It's not going to make any of the changes it needs to make to revive the series and is sadly going to be little more than the DLCs were. It's a step towards the open world BOTW style pokemon game they need to make to revive the franchise but aren't capable of making. The dextards nailed that coffin shut when they threw tantrums over pidgey not being in the the game despite Su/Mo being unplayable and Sw/Sh clawing it's way back to very mediocre but slightly playable because the tutorial/story wasn't quite so aggressive in rail roading you.

 

[Love Machine]

And this is why no matter how bad Pokemon gets it will still sell millions of copies. You want to buy a game in case it comes with a poster despite not owning the console it's on or having any intention of playing it.

Legends looks like the wild area with Lets go catching done in the world map instead of inside it's battle system/another screen. It's not going to make any of the changes it needs to make to revive the series and is sadly going to be little more than the DLCs were. It's a step towards the open world BOTW style pokemon game they need to make to revive the franchise but aren't capable of making. The dextards nailed that coffin shut when they threw tantrums over pidgey not being in the the game despite Su/Mo being unplayable and Sw/Sh clawing it's way back to very mediocre but slightly playable because the tutorial/story wasn't quite so aggressive in rail roading you.

Imagine having to hyperbolize critique for pokemon.

 

[Mother puss bucket]

Imagine having to hyperbolize critique for pokemon.

There was nothing of the sort. Go play Su/Mo and tell me you're having a good time with sub 15 FPS in battle and a straight line from A to B with more cut scenes than monsters to catch. Do you enjoy mobile games inserted into pokemon instead of boss battles? Pokemon is terrible and it still outsells entire franchises with every release.

 

[Love Machine]

There was nothing of the sort. Go play Su/Mo and tell me you're having a good time with sub 15 FPS in battle and a straight line from A to B with more cut scenes than monsters to catch. Do you enjoy mobile games inserted into pokemon instead of boss battles? Pokemon is terrible and it still outsells entire franchises with every release.

If pokemon is terrible why are you trying to comment on what steps it should take? Gen 5 was the best one and sold the worst so I'm not sure what point you're trying to make. Also way to out yourself as a zoomer if you think 15 fps is "unplayable" for a turn based rpg.

 

[Mother puss bucket]

If pokemon is terrible why are you trying to comment on what steps it should take? Gen 5 was the best one and sold the worst so I'm not sure what point you're trying to make. Also way to out yourself as a zoomer if you think 15 fps is "unplayable" for a turn based rpg.

Gen 5 was the start of the decline. It's the point where they decide story is more important than gameplay. When Gen 5 first released there were loads of comics made about the rivals jumping you at every turn slowing the game to a snails pace. Gen 3 wasn't entirely innocent of that but it was still mostly about monster catching with story moments often being hours apart. Did you forget about that Mr. Zoomer? Or is a long winded and entirely soulless story about animal friendship what you play pokemon for?

Sub 15 FPS. On an original 3D it will drop inputs because of the frame rate and when it does register them it can take a few seconds for it to respond. It's not uncommon for the AI to lock up entirely and leave you waiting for a minute if the FPS isn't chugging while it figures out what move to use. If it's sub 15 FPS it will take even longer. For 2 monsters and 2 characters on a blank field that's unacceptable.

 

[Love Machine]

Gen 5 was the start of the decline. It's the point where they decide story is more important than gameplay. When Gen 5 first released there were loads of comics made about the rivals jumping you at every turn slowing the game to a snails pace. Gen 3 wasn't entirely innocent of that but it was still mostly about monster catching with story moments often being hours apart. Did you forget about that Mr. Zoomer? Or is a long winded and entirely soulless story about animal friendship what you play pokemon for?

Sub 15 FPS. On an original 3D it will drop inputs because of the frame rate and when it does register them it can take a few seconds for it to respond. It's not uncommon for the AI to lock up entirely and leave you waiting for a minute if the FPS isn't chugging while it figures out what move to use. If it's sub 15 FPS it will take even longer. For 2 monsters and 2 characters on a blank field that's unacceptable.

B2w2 has more single player content then pretty much all of the other games, unless you want to argue over hgss. So your argument immediately false flat on it's face about focusing too much on the story.

>Dropping inputs
>Pokemon

 

[Mother puss bucket]

B2w2 has more single player content then pretty much all of the other games, unless you want to argue over hgss. So your argument immediately false flat on it's face about focusing too much on the story.

>Dropping inputs
>Pokemon

When you push the button and nothing happens it's dropping inputs. That's how bad Su/Mo is.

>Muh content
Do you understand battle towers and other bullshit only appeal to the most autistic people and are rarely touched by any more else? More content doesn't mean better gameplay. Having to stop every 10 minutes for Lillie and Haw to bitch at you while walking a straight line from town to town is not fun. The gameplay is sacrificed in place of a story cutting it up constantly. This is the design philosophy pokemon took from B/W. The previous generations would have your rival appear occasionally to point you in the right direction and battle you with minor side quests to get to gym leaders. B/W has you walk into a town where a guy starts literally preaching at you for minutes after already putting up with multiple rival characters going on and on about nothing. No one cares about the characters in pokemon, they're background dressing to the gameplay and until Game Freak and you realize that we're going to get more shit shoveled on top burying it.

 

[Love Machine]

When you push the button and nothing happens it's dropping inputs. That's how bad Su/Mo is.

>Muh content
Do you understand battle towers and other bullshit only appeal to the most autistic people and are rarely touched by any more else? More content doesn't mean better gameplay. Having to stop every 10 minutes for Lillie and Haw to bitch at you while walking a straight line from town to town is not fun. The gameplay is sacrificed in place of a story cutting it up constantly. This is the design philosophy pokemon took from B/W. The previous generations would have your rival appear occasionally to point you in the right direction and battle you with minor side quests to get to gym leaders. B/W has you walk into a town where a guy starts literally preaching at you for minutes after already putting up with multiple rival characters going on and on about nothing. No one cares about the characters in pokemon, they're background dressing to the gameplay and until Game Freak and you realize that we're going to get more shit shoveled on top burying it.

I didn't say battle tower or battle frontier. B2w2 has the most single player content pre and post them most pokemon games (unless you want to argue about hgss. You're not even making a coherent argument. Like if you look up a list of rival battles with Hugh, there aren't that many.

 

[Mother puss bucket]

I didn't say battle tower or battle frontier. B2w2 has the most single player content pre and post them most pokemon games (unless you want to argue about hgss. You're not even making a coherent argument. Like if you look up a list of rival battles with Hugh, there aren't that many.

If you can't understand the point being made there's no point trying to explain it any further. You don't understand the difference between content and game play. They're not the same thing.

 

[Love Machine]

If you can't understand the point being made there's no point trying to explain it any further. You don't understand the difference between content and game play. They're not the same thing.

Your point is just retarded. You're trying to say they stop you too much with story stuff. But they barely do.

 

[Mother puss bucket]

Your point is just retarded. You're trying to say they stop you too much with story stuff. But they barely do.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WjHDuVA5k5A

Pokemon Red long play. By 30 minutes he's at Brock, been through 1 dungeon (Viridian forest) and several trainer battles.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UJ77chEje5c

Pokemon Black/White long play. By 30 minutes he's been in 1 patch of grass, had 3 NPC battles, several tutorials and a weird skype call style chat too.

Can you not tell the difference between these two games? Black/White won't let you leave the first town without your rivals interrupting you. Then they immediately jump you with more dialog boxes as soon as you pass through the patch of grass on the straight line route which leads into being preached at by the evil gang. Just compare the first two routes and you see a direct clash of design philosophy.

 

[Love Machine]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WjHDuVA5k5A

Pokemon Red long play. By 30 minutes he's at Brock, been through 1 dungeon (Viridian forest) and several trainer battles.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UJ77chEje5c

Pokemon Black/White long play. By 30 minutes he's been in 1 patch of grass, had 3 NPC battles, several tutorials and a weird skype call style chat too.

Can you not tell the difference between these two games? Black/White won't let you leave the first town without your rivals interrupting you. Then they immediately jump you with more dialog boxes as soon as you pass through the patch of grass on the straight line route which leads into being preached at by the evil gang. Just compare the first two routes and you see a direct clash of design philosophy.

>Comparing red to gen 5

Lol nice. You should be comparing it to it's direct predecessor. Aren't you also the fag complaining about technical issues? Anyway, from this point I'm saying that you just need to live in reality. What you're saying is equivalent to "re4 set the series on an action trend that made the games shit, so RE4 is shit." While Re4 is still one of the best games in the franchise. You're crying about rivals stopping you but B2w2 have the most content you can possibly do in a pokemon game that isn't a battle facility. Again your argument fails.

 

[Mother puss bucket]

>Comparing red to gen 5

Lol nice. You should be comparing it to it's direct predecessor. Aren't you also the fag complaining about technical issues? Anyway, from this point I'm saying that you just need to live in reality. What you're saying is equivalent to "re4 set the series on an action trend that made the games shit, so RE4 is shit." While Re4 is still one of the best games in the franchise. You're crying about rivals stopping you but B2w2 have the most content you can possibly do in a pokemon game that isn't a battle facility. Again your argument fails.

You must have a severe case of autism when you can't tell the difference.

 

[Love Machine]

You must have a severe case of autism when you can't tell the difference.

Again you fall back on that because you can't explain you're retarded point.

 

[Mother puss bucket]

Again you fall back on that because you can't explain you're retarded point.

Want a gen 4 video? Fine. Then you can cry how you don't understand that either.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FoRlmsroon0 Players already off and catching stuff in the wild by 20 minutes. Which is less time than it took Black/White to leave the starting town and get passed the tutorials.

 

[Love Machine]

Want a gen 4 video? Fine. Then you can cry how you don't understand that either.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FoRlmsroon0 Players already off and catching stuff in the wild by 20 minutes. Which is less time than it took Black/White to leave the starting town and get passed the tutorials.

So the first hour of an rpg is representative of the 10th, 20th, and 30th hours? You got a big brain, dontcha?