Pokémon (Not-So) Griefing Thread - Scarlet and Violet Released with 10 Million Copies in First 3 Days in Buggy States

[Valstrax]

Most of the original Gen V and VI designs

Kyurem needed another redesign with its stubby T-Rex arms and ugly stubby half-wing bullshit.

Tyrantrum is more of a proper T-rex and legendary, despite only being a rare pokemon, than Kyurem.

I think the point of Kyurem is that it's supposed to look like shit so you'll fuse it with Zekrom or Reshiram.

 

[raider of the lost wifi]

I think the point of Kyurem is that it's supposed to look like shit so you'll fuse it with Zekrom or Reshiram.

I was specificially talking about when you fuse it with Zekrom or Reshiram. Looks like they stuffed a failed abortion of the two into it. With the Smoke looking differently sized wings regardless of form.

They had several other chimera designs like Hydreigon, that looked similar to godzilla monsters and did the chimera thing better.

 

[Dunsparce]

I was specificially talking about when you fuse it with Zekrom or Reshiram. Looks like they stuffed a failed abortion of the two into it. With the Smoke looking differently sized wings regardless of form.

They had several other chimera designs like Hydreigon, that looked similar to godzilla monsters and did the chimera thing better.

Hydreigon is more of a Hydra. Type: Null and Silvally are actual examples of Chimera-based Pokemon

 

[Some Badger]

Am I the only one who dislikes Lucario... not out of association with furries, either? That Pokémon is exceptionally popular, but I always found Lucario ddly ugly in my point of view. Bogleech managed to explain my feelings (even those regarding Riolu):

I am guilty of liking Lucario on aesthetic alone as many casual fans do, but I also appreciate that Lucario is fairly viable competitively as a glass cannon. In addition to having good speed, it also has high physical and special attack, with an ever-expanding movepool to complement those bases. Its Steel dual typing was handy to force Dark type switches in Gens 4-5, while in gen 6 and onward gives it STAB against Fairies, which with a few exceptions all have brittle physical defense.

Lucario was also one of the few megas whose ability made it so broken that Smogon relegated it to ubers and it stayed there. I prefer inner focus to adaptability though.

I also apologize for the mild sperging. Steel is my favorite type and I like my goofy-looking bipedal fight dog. He's a good boy.

 

[Disc]

I am guilty of liking Lucario on aesthetic alone as many casual fans do, but I also appreciate that Lucario is fairly viable competitively as a glass cannon. In addition to having good speed, it also has high physical and special attack, with an ever-expanding movepool to complement those bases. Its Steel dual typing was handy to force Dark type switches in Gens 4-5, while in gen 6 and onward gives it STAB against Fairies, which with a few exceptions all have brittle physical defense.

Lucario was also one of the few megas whose ability made it so broken that Smogon relegated it to ubers and it stayed there. I prefer inner focus to adaptability though.

I also apologize for the mild sperging. Steel is my favorite type and I like my goofy-looking bipedal fight dog. He's a good boy.

Lucario was set up for success, what with having an unusual typing, good stats that make it easy to work with, a striking design and a movie tie-in. People tend to like what's good.

 

[Valstrax]

I am guilty of liking Lucario on aesthetic alone as many casual fans do, but I also appreciate that Lucario is fairly viable competitively as a glass cannon. In addition to having good speed, it also has high physical and special attack, with an ever-expanding movepool to complement those bases. Its Steel dual typing was handy to force Dark type switches in Gens 4-5, while in gen 6 and onward gives it STAB against Fairies, which with a few exceptions all have brittle physical defense.

Lucario was also one of the few megas whose ability made it so broken that Smogon relegated it to ubers and it stayed there. I prefer inner focus to adaptability though.

I also apologize for the mild sperging. Steel is my favorite type and I like my goofy-looking bipedal fight dog. He's a good boy.

I wholeheartedly admit to always having Lucario as a permanent party member whenever I replay Pokemon X or Y.

 

[Some Badger]

Lucario was set up for success, what with having an unusual typing, good stats that make it easy to work with, a striking design and a movie tie-in. People tend to like what's good.

Admittedly, I thought Lucario was the coolest mon ever when I first saw him in this newsletter about the 8th movie back in 2005/6, so I guess whatever marketing tricks TPC used to get Lucario's foot in the door of the fandom's collective unconscious worked on my dumb kid brain too.

I wholeheartedly admit to always having Lucario as a permanent party member whenever I replay Pokemon X or Y.

Riolu was the first Pokemon I added to my party in X & Y, and he evolved pretty fast while on the way to that Versailles expy after the first gym. I didn't expect to get Lucario for free after the third gym since I went into Y blind, but I appreciate GF for sneaking Rolu in early. I like for the firsy Pokemon I catch on my playthroughs to be something that wouldn't drop off halfway through the game.

 

[The Ultimate Ramotith]

Admittedly, I thought Lucario was the coolest mon ever when I first saw him in this newsletter about the 8th movie back in 2005/6, so I guess whatever marketing tricks TPC used to get Lucario's foot in the door of the fandom's collective unconscious worked on my dumb kid brain too.

Did not hey try those same tactics with Zoroark, though?

 

[Sylvie Paula Paula]

Did not hey try those same tactics with Zoroark, though?

They did, to moderate success. Absolutely not the same as Lucario, though. It'd probably have been more memorable if, as other users. mentioned, it weren't a pain in the ass to obtain in its initial generation.

 

[CrippleThreat]

They did, to moderate success. Absolutely not the same as Lucario, though. It'd probably have been more memorable if, as other users. mentioned, it weren't a pain in the ass to obtain in its initial generation.

Or, if Illusion just worked by disguising Zoroark as a random mon in your team. But, battle preps still fuck it over anyway.

 

[Disc]

Did not hey try those same tactics with Zoroark, though?

They did... which is why Zoroark got second place in Unova for the 2020 poll. The only one more popular than Zo was Chandelure, who appeared in Pokken.

 

[Nauseated Courgi]

Or, if Illusion just worked by disguising Zoroark as a random mon in your team. But, battle preps still fuck it over anyway.

Battle prep didn't really fuck him over like that. Sure, your opponent knows you have one in your team, but they don't know what pokemon you disguised him as unless they were willing to risk hitting a ghost or poison type-disgused Zoroark with a close combat or moonblast. Battle prep, imo, only fucked him over if you didn't utilize team formation and type-match ups.

If the form he took was random then Zoroark would be left wide open to any attack that it doesn't resist. The ability is fine the way it is as it gives the player control over which form it would take.

Edit: words

 

[Some Badger]

Battle prep didn't really fuck him over like that. Sure, your opponent knows you have one in your team, but they don't what pokemon you disguised him as unless they were will to risk hitting a ghost or poison type-disgused Zoroark with a close combat or moonblast. Battle prep, imo, only fucked him over if you didn't utilize team formation and type-match ups.

If the form he took was random then Zoroark would be left wide open to any attack that it doesn't resist. The ability is fine the way it is as it gives the player control over which form it would take.

I can attest to this. Running Zoroark can be rewarding if you're creative about it. I've been able to run a Zoro on a handful of teams since Gen 6 without battle prep compromising my strategy. I still get the drop on Showdown players all the time outside of the NU tier, especially if my last selected mon is something known to be slow/bulky.

 

[Valstrax]

I can attest to this. Running Zoroark can be rewarding if you're creative about it. I've been able to run a Zoro on a handful of teams since Gen 6 without battle prep compromising my strategy. I still get the drop on Showdown players all the time outside of the NU tier, especially if my last selected mon is something known to be slow/bulky.

Did you try using the Quick Claw on it?

 

[Some Badger]

Did you try using the Quick Claw on it?

I haven't, but only because I prefer to run a Choice item + U-turn regardless of the EV build. Plus Zoroark's base speed is high enough that it's hard to close the gap anyway.

Razor Claw is nice too tbh, especially if you wanna run Taunt but have the rest of your moveset specced towards offense.

 

[Wingnut]

Battle prep didn't really fuck him over like that. Sure, your opponent knows you have one in your team, but they don't know what pokemon you disguised him as unless they were willing to risk hitting a ghost or poison type-disgused Zoroark with a close combat or moonblast. Battle prep, imo, only fucked him over if you didn't utilize team formation and type-match ups.

If the form he took was random then Zoroark would be left wide open to any attack that it doesn't resist. The ability is fine the way it is as it gives the player control over which form it would take.

Edit: words

If you know what you're doing Illusion has the potential to be really powerful. You can hide behind setup moves that the Illusion Pokemon can also learn and then slam them with an attack they weren't expecting. I honestly wish it wasn't a signature ability and more Pokemon had it. Imagine hiding a Dragapult behind the illusion of a Steelix or something.

 

[Don't @ Me]

If you know what you're doing Illusion has the potential to be really powerful. You can hide behind setup moves that the Illusion Pokemon can also learn and then slam them with an attack they weren't expecting. I honestly wish it wasn't a signature ability and more Pokemon had it. Imagine hiding a Dragapult behind the illusion of a Steelix or something.

Well that's what Hackmons are for I suppose, though I agree Illusion is great.

 

[Kari Kamiya]

Did You Know Gaming got their hands on the official Japan-only PokéDex encyclopedia and got Nob Ogasawara to translate it. There's some real cool lore that existed in the beginning but has since been dropped over time or never made its way into localizations.

 

[The Ultimate Ramotith]

Dragon Pokémon cards are coming back... and they are still not using a dedicated Dragon Energy.
I am angry right now.

 

[Pulpanator]

Rayquaza is cool as shit, like holy shit look at this MOTHERFUCKER

His design is simple but epic as fuck. He's a snake dragon thing that controls the weather, how is that not fucking epic?! Rayquaza is also somewhat THE hyperbeam pokemon, everytime he uses hyperbeam its always cool like the time he obliterated Deoxys point blank with one THAT was sick as fuck. Its habitat is also cool as fuck, the upper atmosphere? Now thats both interesting and unique. I could go on about how fucking amazing rayquaza is but I'll spare you all from my super austim.