Pokémon (Not-So) Griefing Thread - Scarlet and Violet Released with 10 Million Copies in First 3 Days in Buggy States

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The Great Ace Attorney 1&2 official localization was a mistake

I love how to these absolute retard fucking weebs they act like japan didn't do its own little bits of imperialism with shit like the Rape of Nanking (not meji era but if japan was the good boys these twatter fags claim they are wouldn't they have learned from how the evil west fucked them over), no Japan were good boys who dindu nuffen, again not to say the meji era and it's after affects don't matter to its contribution to culture but Christ its so fucking retarded the lengths they will go to say "west bad, east good" from a bunch of morons that never even left outside of their hometown.
These people don't know history beyond what they've been spoonfed in public schools by a teacher's union or a liberal arts college. The world is a big fucked up place, and literally every single country to ever exist has a very dark history based on today's moral standards.

Get over it.
 
These people don't know history beyond what they've been spoonfed in public schools by a teacher's union or a liberal arts college. The world is a big fucked up place, and literally every single country to ever exist has a very dark history based on today's moral standards.

Get over it.
I just don't get it even on a conceptual level. Why does a game being based on an awful historical thing make it as awful as that historical thing? The plot of X and Y is wars and genocide, but because it's not based on a specific war or genocide, it's okay? If Adolf Hitler turned up in a Pokemon game as the leader and boss of team Nazi, how is that any different from Lysandre, Cyrus, or any other team leader that wants to bring about the end of the world? Like Pokemon in general is cock-fighting, which I don't think Game Freak is promoting, how does the game being based in the Meiji Period mean Game Freak supports what happened in the Meiji Period?
 
I just don't get it even on a conceptual level. Why does a game being based on an awful historical thing make it as awful as that historical thing? The plot of X and Y is wars and genocide, but because it's not based on a specific war or genocide, it's okay? If Adolf Hitler turned up in a Pokemon game as the leader and boss of team Nazi, how is that any different from Lysandre, Cyrus, or any other team leader that wants to bring about the end of the world? Like Pokemon in general is cock-fighting, which I don't think Game Freak is promoting, how does the game being based in the Meiji Period mean Game Freak supports what happened in the Meiji Period?
I think this'll just have the effect of not so negative publicity. People will still buy the game.
 
I just don't get it even on a conceptual level. Why does a game being based on an awful historical thing make it as awful as that historical thing? The plot of X and Y is wars and genocide, but because it's not based on a specific war or genocide, it's okay? If Adolf Hitler turned up in a Pokemon game as the leader and boss of team Nazi, how is that any different from Lysandre, Cyrus, or any other team leader that wants to bring about the end of the world? Like Pokemon in general is cock-fighting, which I don't think Game Freak is promoting, how does the game being based in the Meiji Period mean Game Freak supports what happened in the Meiji Period?
Exactly this.

People seem to forget that when fiction contains dark subject matter, most of the time, the creators don't endorse it.

The quote RT's are as equally performative: do they believe directors who make slasher films are "profiting off of murder victims"? Or that when kids buy the game, they're going to sub-consciously think, "wow, this is an accurate portrayal of Japan. :)" It makes me MOTI every time I see Twitter ostracizing creators and their works over this, and I can guarantee that this will blow over in a week. Or at the very least, the same people will buy the games anyway, and defend their hypocrisy by claiming to be "critical of their interests".

Just admit you like 'problematic media', and get over it. Rather than cherry-picking and over-analyzing aspects of video games that might hurt the feelings of some white Twitter users' feelings, we should be criticizing the actual quality of the product. And from what we've seen so far, I think Legends: Arceus has the potential to be fun.

Also, wasn't The Great Ace Attorney set in ancient Japan, too? Not very woke of you to racebend a Japanese man, OP. :tomgirl:

Anyway, compared to the previous Direct, I was pleasantly surprised by this one. Sinnoh was my shit. The new games seem to have shaped up, I haven't been optimistic about new Pokemon titles in a long time. :heart-full:
 
Exactly this.

People seem to forget that when fiction contains dark subject matter, most of the time, the creators don't endorse it.

The quote RT's are as equally performative: do they believe directors who make slasher films are "profiting off of murder victims"? Or that when kids buy the game, they're going to sub-consciously think, "wow, this is an accurate portrayal of Japan. :)" It makes me MOTI every time I see Twitter ostracizing creators and their works over this, and I can guarantee that this will blow over in a week. Or at the very least, the same people will buy the games anyway, and defend their hypocrisy by claiming to be "critical of their interests".

Just admit you like 'problematic media', and get over it. Rather than cherry-picking and over-analyzing aspects of video games that might hurt the feelings of some white Twitter users' feelings, we should be criticizing the actual quality of the product. And from what we've seen so far, I think Legends: Arceus has the potential to be fun.

Also, wasn't The Great Ace Attorney set in ancient Japan, too? Not very woke of you to racebend a Japanese man, OP. :tomgirl:
Anyway, compared to the previous Direct, I was pleasantly surprised by this one. Sinnoh was my shit. The new games seem to have shaped up, I haven't been optimistic about new Pokemon titles in a long time. :heart-full:
If Gamefreak was more experimental and innovative, maybe, just maybe, people wouldn't be put off by how childish Pokémon can get these days (especially in regards to the anime).
 
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Annnnnnd the first thing people complained about in Legends are the trees.
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"Morrowind did it better!"
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The price of the Let's Go games finally dropped enough. Bit the bullet and bought Let's Go Eevee, which is surprisingly harder to find than Pikachu - I've been meaning to for a while after seeing comparisons between LGPE and SWSH and I was absolutely surprised by it. The tutorials are short and sweet, the graphics - while typically lacking for Pokemon - are much livelier and polished than SWSH and the music's pretty good. Even found a full odds shiny Rattata while going to face my rival near the Indigo Plateau.

I'm not going to give my full thoughts until I've played through more of the game, but so far what I'm seeing is way more promising than SWSH was.
If they hadn’t deliberately gutted the mechanics and Pokemon roster, it would be a pretty awesome game.
 
Annnnnnd the first thing people complained about in Legends are the trees.
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"Wind Waker did it better!"
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"Skyrim did it better!"
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"Morrowind did it better!"
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"Horizon Zero Dawn did it better!"
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"Here's a comparison between a released game vs a game in development!"
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"Those trees in the distance don't have shadows, there's no explanation other than bad design!
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"You don't want to focus on how the graphics are shit? Get off that copium!"
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With all of those comparisons to other games, I'm surprised that someone hasn't made a comparison of The Last of Us 2 having better graphics, i.e. Trees, than Legends.
 
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Annnnnnd the first thing people complained about in Legends are the trees.
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"BOTW did the trees better!""
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"Wind Waker did it better!"
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"Skyrim did it better!"
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"Morrowind did it better!"
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"Horizon Zero Dawn did it better!"
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"Here's a comparison between a released game vs a game in development!"
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"Those trees in the distance don't have shadows, there's no explanation other than bad design!
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"You don't want to focus on how the graphics are shit? Get off that copium!"
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Huh, I know that Taurus guy, small world and yes he's like that when he spergs about Nintendo/fighting games at Maximilian dood's discord server

I did notice the trees too but by the end of the trailer I thought it looked fine, not that I'm that interested in it to start with
 
These days people who screech about Pokemon and bashing its fans for having “low standards” are even more insufferable than Gamefreak shills. Especially when said screechers are people with furry pfps that get off to Pokemon fetish porn in between their screaming and anime pfps with the most basic tastes in anime that masturbate to underage Pokemon girls.

It also comes from fans of other monster tamer games who accuse Pokemon fans of “ruining other monster taming games” and accusing them of ruining the chances of other games in the genre of coming to the west. They’ll go after Pokemon fans who simply call a game “Pokemon like” and blame them for ruining the genre. It’s funny because I’ve never seen any Pokemon fans get hostile or hateful towards other monster taming games. These people are just coping hard because Yokai Watch didn’t succeed in the west.

I’ve been considering doing a community watch thread on these clowns since there are some pretty mentally unwell people in the monster taming fanbase but the community isn’t big enough to warrant one.

Edit: More cope
 
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These people are just coping hard because Yokai Watch didn’t succeed in the west.
I would think the main reason Yokai Watch didn't succeed is that the game is filled with a lot of Japanese culture. I've never played the series myself to be fair, but that's the impression that I get with it, as opposed to something like Pokemon where there isn't much of a cultural barrier. Except for like, the weird shrine people/hex maniacs in some of the earlier games I guess.
 
Definitely, and lack of marketing didn’t help either. Unfortunately fans are too much in denial and coping their asses off to realize that.
 
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Annnnnnd the first thing people complained about in Legends are the trees.
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"BOTW did the trees better!""
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"Wind Waker did it better!"
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"Skyrim did it better!"
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"Morrowind did it better!"
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"Horizon Zero Dawn did it better!"
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"Here's a comparison between a released game vs a game in development!"
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The picture in question:
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"Those trees in the distance don't have shadows, there's no explanation other than bad design!
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Someone gets triggered when another person tweets out a post to make fun of the assmad.
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"You don't want to focus on how the graphics are shit? Get off that copium!"
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To be entirely fair, that Pat guy intentionally shitposts to get in dumb Twitter arguments for funsies. He’s liked and retweeted posts that both point out bad the argument is and just says stuff to fuck with people.
 
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Huh, I know that Taurus guy, small world and yes he's like that when he spergs about Nintendo/fighting games at Maximilian dood's discord server

I did notice the trees too but by the end of the trailer I thought it looked fine, not that I'm that interested in it to start with

These days people who screech about Pokemon and bashing its fans for having “low standards” are even more insufferable than Gamefreak shills. Especially when said screechers are people with furry pfps that get off to Pokemon fetish porn in between their screaming and anime pfps with the most basic tastes in anime that masturbate to underage Pokemon girls.

It also comes from fans of other monster tamer games who accuse Pokemon fans of “ruining other monster taming games” and accusing them of ruining the chances of other games in the genre of coming to the west. They’ll go after Pokemon fans who simply call a game “Pokemon like” and blame them for ruining the genre. It’s funny because I’ve never seen any Pokemon fans get hostile or hateful towards other monster taming games. These people are just coping hard because Yokai Watch didn’t succeed in the west.

I’ve been considering doing a community watch thread on these clowns since there are some pretty mentally unwell people in the monster taming fanbase but the community isn’t big enough to warrant one.

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Some pokemon review channels are even getting into the whole "social commentary" bs that Legends is a reference to the Ainu genocide.

Lyk 'murica and killin' injuns n' sheeeeeeit!
 
Why the trees though? At least Legends upped the battle animations that were "meh" in SwSh.

These people have reached peak cherrypicker.
I haven't seen any of the trailers since I want to go into the game blind, but my guess is that it sets a bad example for the rest of the environments in the game. It's like that one cliff in SwSh that was overlooking the wild area or whatever, and how bad that looked in screenshots/trailers. Actually, I think that one looked worse in game than it did trailers?

Point being Game Freak hasn't exactly made immaculate 3D environments before, with limited scope, and now they're making a full-fledged open world game. I don't think it'll be as bad as others have made it out to be, but it'll probably be about par with the rest of their titles. I just hope the gameplay is fun.
 
Annnnnnd the first thing people complained about in Legends are the trees.
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Tweet / Archive
"BOTW did the trees better!""
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"Wind Waker did it better!"
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"Skyrim did it better!"
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Tweet / Archive
"Morrowind did it better!"
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Tweet / Archive
"Horizon Zero Dawn did it better!"
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"Here's a comparison between a released game vs a game in development!"
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The picture in question:
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"Those trees in the distance don't have shadows, there's no explanation other than bad design!
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Someone gets triggered when another person tweets out a post to make fun of the assmad.
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"You don't want to focus on how the graphics are shit? Get off that copium!"
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I don't understand how grown ass adults have time to seethe on the internet that the new Pokemon game isn't some imaginary perfect product. It's very confusing to me as a long time fan of the series that's never really been shy to criticizing it that all these people popping out of the woodwork to screech about poorly textured trees or shadow draw distance don't think they look like flippant children.
 
It’s all clout chasing. People see that big name youtubers and twitter fans are criticizing the graphics and want in on the bandwagon. I could be wrong but I never noticed people throwing huge fits over the 3D graphics of Pokemon games until the dex cut happened and people like Distant Kingdom got popular off the controversy.
 
It’s all clout chasing. People see that big name youtubers and twitter fans are criticizing the graphics and want in on the bandwagon. I could be wrong but I never noticed people throwing huge fits over the 3D graphics of Pokemon games until the dex cut happened and people like Distant Kingdom got popular off the controversy.
Yeah. And it's not like there aren't things to he unhappy about with new Pokemon games. Hell I'll always be a little upset that we got cucked out of a true definitive edition of the Hoenn games because Masuda decided that Battle Facilities were cringe, but Im not going to spend my life seething on twitter about it because I have better things to do
 
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