Pokémon (Not-So) Griefing Thread - Scarlet and Violet Released with 10 Million Copies in First 3 Days in Buggy States

[José Mourinho]

These people who are still nitpicking about the trees in the upcoming Pokemon games are missing the point as to why the infamous tree in Sword/Shield was criticised to begin with. The reason it became a meme mainly because Masuda was giving excuses for some Pokemon being cut from the game e.g. "higher quality animations" and thus people began to make fun of how bad the game looks and doesn't help that Game Freak at the time was also developing another game nobody gives a shit today. When you can't have good graphics in a game you need content to compensate for it, and at the time it was at least somewhat understandable for the outrage.

Making a fuss about the trees in the upcoming Pokemon game is already redundant, unfunny, stupid and complaining for the sake of it. The trees in the upcoming Legends game definitely aren't super fantastic, but they certainly aren't bad either. There definitely are Pokemon games back then that had great graphics, but that's not the point, point is it's 2021 and I still cannot believe that people act as if graphics are the most important parts of the game. Yes, I get that Pokemon is literally the highest grossing media franchise even though most of the sales come from merchandising, so it is understandable you expect a higher quality product, but these graphic-whore complaints aren't helping.

These days people who screech about Pokemon and bashing its fans for having “low standards” are even more insufferable than Gamefreak shills. Especially when said screechers are people with furry pfps that get off to Pokemon fetish porn in between their screaming and anime pfps with the most basic tastes in anime that masturbate to underage Pokemon girls.

It's a sad endless cycle. I get that "Don't ask questions, just consoom product and get excited for next product" mentality is something that needs to be criticised, but if you are still buying the game just for the sake of hating on it, and even if you don't buy it you are still complaining about it for months as if it's rent free to you thus giving more publicity, you pretty much become what you hate. This doesn't apply only to Pokemon by the way.

 

[SnowBall]

Most of those types of fans don’t even buy or play Pokemon anymore, they just want to jerk off to anthro Pokemon fetish art and underage Pokegirls.

Also most of those people are a part of the monster taming fanbase in general where their anti fanboyism is just the other side of the same coin as Gamefreak defenders and extremely hypocritical. They will make massive reaches to claim Pokemon designs are ripped off from other games (Like Dragon Quest) but get super pissed if you compare a Pokemon design to one from another game. My favorite was some dude who desperately tried to claim that Pokemon SuMo’s plot is a rip off from Digimon Cyber Sleuth. I played both games and the two are nothing alike aside from some surface level tropes that are prevalent in RPGs in general. You have to walk on eggshells around some of them since even innocently saying a game is “Pokemon like” will have them yell at you and go on a tirade about Pokemon not inventing the monster genre.

It’s a shame. I adore monster taming games and I was under the impression that fans of non Pokemon games were more mature and chill but it looks like they aren’t.

 

[Ido]

I'm honestly just glad they're trying something new with legends. As of right now, I'm pretty hyped, it looks like they tried to make it different, put in things fans have been waiting for for a long time, and I can't wait to see what more they have to offer. My only complaint so far would be if they do the ride pokemon thing from sun and moon, let me own and bond with my ride pokemon damnit!

 

[SnowBall]

Some pokemon review channels are even getting into the whole "social commentary" bs that Legends is a reference to the Ainu genocide.

Lyk 'murica and killin' injuns n' sheeeeeeit!

Of course the majority of them are bitchy white liberals. Looks like another case of Westerners, especially Americans, shoving their noses into a history and culture they know fuck all about to play white savior to a group of people who probably don’t give a fuck.

 

[MightyBiteySnake]

Some pokemon review channels are even getting into the whole "social commentary" bs that Legends is a reference to the Ainu genocide.

Lyk 'murica and killin' injuns n' sheeeeeeit!

Tbh if PLA does well I'd love to see another Legends game set in a type of colonial Unova, that would be super cool

 

[SnowBall]

I would love a Legends Unova where we get to see the original dragon,

 

[Juan's Sombrero]

Tbh if PLA does well I'd love to see another Legends game set in a type of colonial Unova, that would be super cool

I would love a Legends Unova where we get to see the original dragon,

I really would love to have an entire arc in the past, and we get to see more variants of Pokemon that have either adapted to the climate at the time, or now extinct species.

A deeper immersion into the world of Pokemon where history, politics and culture is explored more.

You know what would clinch the promotion for this even further? A movie where Ash is accidentally sent back to Hisui by Celebi and joins Galaxy Team as a member of the survey corps to help with the first pokedex. Only to be derailed by the usual cookie cutter plot most Pokemon movies follow.

It'd be pretty predictable, but hey, gotta get those movie bux and autistic screeching.

 

[Rotollo 2]

I would love a Legends Unova where we get to see the original dragon,

This is the problem though, other than Unova what other region would make a good legends? I guess you could do Kalos for Xygarde but if they aren't willing to get into the nitty gritty of the Kalos war it can be a bit limiting potential wise.

 

[Valstrax]

This is the problem though, other than Unova what other region would make a good legends? I guess you could do Kalos for Xygarde but if they aren't willing to get into the nitty gritty of the Kalos war it can be a bit limiting potential wise.

Alola? Then again that sounds a bit too recent, maybe.. Johto?

 

[Juan's Sombrero]

Alola? Then again that sounds a bit too recent, maybe.. Johto?

Kanto and Johto are literally right next to each other geographically. A Legends game about their history would be epic. Would tell the story behind the Burned Tower, if the regions were originally named differently (for example, Hokkaido used to be called Ezo). If the Pokemon were any varied from climate and environmental factors, and if ancestors of common characters we know lived at that time.

Like the Okido/Oak family.

 

[Kari Kamiya]

This is the problem though, other than Unova what other region would make a good legends?

Hoenn, yo. The Regis I doubt could carry a Legends game (still include them, though), but the Titans would be neat.

 

[The Ultimate Ramotith]

This is the problem though, other than Unova what other region would make a good legends? I guess you could do Kalos for Xygarde but if they aren't willing to get into the nitty gritty of the Kalos war it can be a bit limiting potential wise.

Kanto: how far that Nostalgia can go?
Johto: what happened a the Burned Tower? Plus... SpaceWorld!
Hoenn: what happened during the clash between Groudon and Kyogre? (probably redundant, but can reintroduce those blank Pokédex entries)
Alola: did Galar (or Isshhu) conquer Alola?
Galar: that game had a big unexplored past!

 

[Nauseated Courgi]

Kanto: how far that Nostalgia can go?
Johto: what happened a the Burned Tower? Plus... SpaceWorld!
Hoenn: what happened during the clash between Groudon and Kyogre? (probably redundant, but can reintroduce those blank Pokédex entries)
Alola: did Galar (or Isshhu) conquer Alola?
Galar: that game had a big unexplored past!

Don't forget:

Kalos: what exactly happened during the great war?

 

[Sundae]

After that recent trailer, I went from cautiously optimistic to potentially getting this game day one. Looking forward to seeing what other pokemon get new forms/evolutions (can't wait to see Hisuian Arcanine, Asian lion-dogs are a personal favorite creature design).

On that note, there are some theories that the starters' final evolutions might get Hisuian forms. Would be neat if true, a Hisuian Typhlosion/Samurott could be cool.

On the subject of starters, for those planning on getting the game, have you already decided what starter you;re going to pick?

This is the problem though, other than Unova what other region would make a good legends? I guess you could do Kalos for Xygarde but if they aren't willing to get into the nitty gritty of the Kalos war it can be a bit limiting potential wise.

A Legends Kyurem set in ancient Unova could be neat, as others have suggested earlier in the thread that could be a good opportunity to finally show the Reshiram/Zekrom merged dragon that has only been hinted at so far.

Legends Necrozma could be a blend of Legends Arceus gameplay and Wind Waker, sailing between the different islands of Alola. It could even feature the first time people encountered the Ultra Beasts.

Heck, they could go all out and have a game set in prehistoric times with caveman trainers and un-fossilized versions of the fossil pokemon, even throw in some brand new ones based on obscure/not-yet-used-for-pokemon-designs prehistoric species.

Kanto and Johto are literally right next to each other geographically. A Legends game about their history would be epic. Would tell the story behind the Burned Tower, if the regions were originally named differently (for example, Hokkaido used to be called Ezo). If the Pokemon were any varied from climate and environmental factors, and if ancestors of common characters we know lived at that time.

Like the Okido/Oak family.

Hoenn, yo. The Regis I doubt could carry a Legends game (still include them, though), but the Titans would be neat.

Don't forget:

Kalos: what exactly happened during the great war?

All of these would be great ideas for further Legends games.

 

[Don't @ Me]

On the subject of starters, for those planning on getting the game, have you already decided what starter you;re going to pick?

Cyndaquil. Love me a good Cyndaquil. Or I might just randomly choose.

A Legends Kyurem set in ancient Unova could be neat, as others have suggested earlier in the thread that could be a good opportunity to finally show the Reshiram/Zekrom merged dragon that has only been hinted at so far.

My only problem with this idea is that given how much stronger Fused Kyurem is compared to its base parts, I can only imagine how strong the original dragon would be. There'd be no way it could be usable, or we'd have another Mega Rayquaza on our hands.

But if they did do this, I really hope they make a cool dragon. All the fan art I've seen of the original dragon looks like a chimera of Zekrom and Reshiram. But that's ridiculous, right? Maybe if they fused back together, they'd look like that, but the original dragon should look like, well, a completely seamless dragon. My main question is what would its type be? All three remains of it are different types, and dragons. I guess it could just become pure dragon.

Heck, they could go all out and have a game set in prehistoric times with caveman trainers and un-fossilized versions of the fossil pokemon, even throw in some brand new ones based on obscure/not-yet-used-for-pokemon-designs prehistoric species.

Honestly all I want from an ancient history Pokemon game is for Game Freak to turn the rating up to at least T, and do something like Lucario and the Mystery of Mew, where Pokemon were shown to be actual tools of war, with weapons and armor. I guess maybe that'd be X/Y, but there's no way Game Freak or Nintendo would take a risk like that, given the end of the game would have to be AZ killing everything.

All of these would be great ideas for further Legends games.

And on that note, while I know this game is focused on Arceus, it's Sinnoh. So I hope there's some room for Regigigas and all of the other Regis, possibly even more.

 

[Disc]

Hoenn, yo. The Regis I doubt could carry a Legends game (still include them, though), but the Titans would be neat.

And you could get into those dragon people introduced in ORAS. A lot to sink your teeth in to.

A legends Galar could also be interesting - imagine walking around a european countryside with kaiju randomly popping up in the middle of it.

 

[Gutpuke]

On the subject of starters, for those planning on getting the game, have you already decided what starter you;re going to pick?

I'm doing what I've been doing since 2001: go with the wolverine on fucking fire.

 

[Wingnut]

On the subject of starters, for those planning on getting the game, have you already decided what starter you;re going to pick?

Definitely Cyndaquil.
My first ever video game was Pokemon Crystal, and he was my first starter. I haven't really used him since HGSS were released, but Typhlosion has always had a special place in my heart.

 

[UnsufficentBoobage]

I’ve been considering doing a community watch thread on these clowns since there are some pretty mentally unwell people in the monster taming fanbase but the community isn’t big enough to warrant one

We have a general Pokeclones thread, maybe dump the cringe there?
Better archived, as we all know most of complainers have their own Fuckinguglymon project chugging elsewhere.

 

[SteelPlatedHeart]

I’m also going for Cyndaquil. Easily one of my favorite starters, and aside from one Gen, I’ve always gone with the Fire Starter.