Poll: Do you want sticker notifications back? - Not the score, just the notifications.

Should sticker notifications be brought back?


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You clam this an improper use of the site, but I know you can't go into any high traffic thread and tell me more than 50% of the posts are worth reading.
yeah no shit and that's mostly because of sticker farmers jumping into every feature and shitting out the most obvious surface-level observations humanely possible to get winner ratings. once again, the system backfires instead of promoting healthy discussion.

the only reason I don't disable them entirely because I loathe the SA habit of empty-quoting and 'agree' posts.
 
I think that everyone who complained in this thread would be much happier if Null implemented a new system that makes a kawaii anime girl appear and take up the entirety of your screen along with a loud "KAWAII!!!!!" sound effect every time you get a sticker. I think that would really make people happy. Ofc everyone else gets to continue to use the site normally.
 
yeah no shit and that's mostly because of sticker farmers jumping into every feature and shitting out the most obvious surface-level observations humanely possible to get winner ratings. once again, the system backfires instead of promoting healthy discussion.
I still think it's that some users are sure no one else could come up with their obvious surface level observations galaxy-brained takes. I don't think turning notifications off and neutering reaction scores is going to change it noticeably.
 
I still think it's that some users are sure no one else could come up with their obvious surface level observations galaxy-brained takes. I don't think turning notifications off and neutering reaction scores is going to change it noticeably.
Well, I've never been able to test this theory because people yell at me when I do, so now we'll see.
 
I think that everyone who complained in this thread would be much happier if Null implemented a new system that makes a kawaii anime girl appear and take up the entirety of your screen along with a loud "KAWAII!!!!!" sound effect every time you get a sticker. I think that would really make people happy. Ofc everyone else gets to continue to use the site normally.

this is genuely a good ideia
 
If the user experience favors (once again, let me save this to a fucking notepad or something) a completely arbitrary and random sequence of notifications about users liking any of your posts in any thread at any time regardless of what other events have transpired in that thread since you made that post, the design is broken. It is fundamentally fucking broken and it has encouraged people to use it wrong. If something is built to be used one way and people prefer clicking random fucking links flowing into your alert tray at complete random, then it is broken.
The QWERTY keyboard is an archaic, broken, and inefficient layout that objectively causes arthritis and carpal tunnel from its use.

There are dozens of better keyboard layouts. Many that increase words per minute, facilitates ease of use, and use entirely new shapes of keyboard that ergonomically fit to the human hand.

Wonder which keyboard layout is still being used?
 
Funny you mention that. Someone specifically pointed out to me that the site has been running better than ever this week and wondered aloud to me if that may be due to the reaction notifications being disabled.

You've been around since 2018, so you've been here while I've had to rebuild the forum from SQL dumps. You've undoubtedly seen me mention that the site rebuilds often take hours because the table that holds the reactions is over 100 million rows long, right?

I never even considered this until this week, but do you know what else is over 100 million rows long and takes hours to restore?

Code:
> select count(1) from xf_user_alert;
+-----------+
| count(1)  |
+-----------+
| 103540085 |
+-----------+
1 row in set (38.346 sec)

> select count(1) from xf_reaction_content;
+-----------+
| count(1)  |
+-----------+
| 132064188 |
+-----------+
1 row in set (6 min 44.330 sec)

That's right! The table that stores user alerts! It's currently 103,540,085 rows long (and growing), and that's after I've truncated it in the past. That's because every single time XenForo records a rating, there is almost always a corresponding user that gets an alert, so the number of SQL queries that go into hundred million row tables is actually twice what it would be without them.

So basically, a part of the server has been continuously dedicated to updating, selecting, and indexing a second table continuously because it is being added to every single time someone clicks a reaction so that users can be notified that this person clicked a button on your post despite the fact that this has absolutely no consequences.

And then people built their entire usage of the forum around these random alerts that have no meaning or intrinsic value. Isn't that FASCINATING
I've noticed some things are faster, like replying to someone or (ironically) leaving a rating are near instant instead of taking between one to three to even sometimes above ten seconds to occur. On the other hand, my experience with having severe lag while replying or leaving a rating is usually occurring while the site is getting severely hammered with DDOS attacks. Whole pages don't seem to load that much faster but the page will pop in all at once when it does load. Page loading is more consistent.

I've also noticed that most threads are receiving replies at a slower pace as well. Whether that means people are taking more time to write more meaningful content instead of farming stickers with zingers, if the retards got bored & fucked off or if the site is just generally not capturing people's attention as much.

From a pure efficiency standpoint, I don't see why we should bring stickers back when it's choking the server as you described it. Also think of how much longer it'll extend the lifespan of the drives by reducing all those read and writes.
 
Sticker notifications are gay and half the time all they're used for is gibing points for saying what I agree with, or throwing shade at something someone said without ever actually posting what you think about it.

Don't need sticker notifications to know when retards have the wrong opinion.

Don't need sticker notifications to know their retarded friends agree with them on shit.

Don't need sticker notifications to know other autists agree with me.
 
yeah no shit and that's mostly because of sticker farmers jumping into every feature and shitting out the most obvious surface-level observations humanely possible to get winner ratings. once again, the system backfires instead of promoting healthy discussion.
That’s a downside for sure, but do you not see any positives at all? I understand you don’t use or take any notice of stickers, because of the sheer volume, it’s just going to be noise.

That’s probably not true for like 90% of the users though. You’d get a handful of notifications when you log in, and it would quickly remind you what conversations you were in and you’d recognise names of those who agreed or jokingly rated you Islamic or whatever. And a quick link to jump back to the thread, helpful if you’re on a phone. There were loads of up-sides.

And I get that you’re not going to change it back which is a shame, but whatever.
 
but can you 360 no scope with other layouts????????????
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Sure, go nuts.
 
While I’ll miss the sticker notifications, if they fucked with the site’s response times and shit like that, I can understand the removal.

@Null why are you fucking with us niggas mane you could have been doing some push-ups :(
 
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the only thing the site probably does need is a "go to your last post" button but XenForo doesn't have that information saved anywhere so I'd have to mod it custom. people have mentioned that there's no way to accomplish that without ratings and that's the only point I am willing to concede.
 
I maintain the biggest problem with sticker reactions is how it causes autists to fear "revenge rating" and use it to cause massive infighting out of paranoia over focusing on it, causing retards to attribute malice to a rating rather than just "oh, this post is fucking retarded"
the only thing the site probably does need is a "go to your last post" button but XenForo doesn't have that information saved anywhere so I'd have to mod it custom. people have mentioned that there's no way to accomplish that without ratings and that's the only point I am willing to concede.
Sounds like something you should just save for SneedForo because even that aside XenForo's architecture is so shit that trying to build QoL features on something that kicked you off just sounds counter productive
 
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