Poll: Do you want sticker notifications back? - Not the score, just the notifications.

[The Noticer]

The reply feature I'm using right now also magically notifies the user that someone has commented on something they said, generally with more to respond to than "Mad at the Internet" or "Islamic".

A "replies to your posts" page would be neat

 

[Xarpho's Return]

If the user experience favors (once again, let me save this to a fucking notepad or something) a completely arbitrary and random sequence of notifications about users liking any of your posts in any thread at any time regardless of what other events have transpired in that thread since you made that post, the design is broken. It is fundamentally fucking broken and it has encouraged people to use it wrong. If something is built to be used one way and people prefer clicking random fucking links flowing into your alert tray at complete random, then it is broken.

Trying to explain to someone that they're "using the site wrong" smacks of video game developers who will try to fuck over people because they use mods, sequence break, speed-run, or any other "improper" use of the product.

For 90% of the users here, the reasoning for removing sticker notifications comes across as "fuck you, that's why", even if that's not actually your intention. To remedy this, I have two questions:

1. There appears to be a small but particular group of problem users who are overly concerned with receiving and doling out stickers, and creating problems for moderators. Is there a reason why the "class gets punished" and not just the users in question?
2. In light of the sticker notification removal, can you offer or envision a better alternative that is built into the site's functionality?

 

[flipwizardmagoo]

the only thing the site probably does need is a "go to your last post" button but XenForo doesn't have that information saved anywhere so I'd have to mod it custom. people have mentioned that there's no way to accomplish that without ratings and that's the only point I am willing to concede.

There isn’t a way to change sticker notifications into a broad “someone reacted to your post in this thread” notification? I often forget about threads or assume they’re dead, but notifications showed engagement and activity.

 

[Abbadon's Gate]

A "replies to your posts" page would be neat

It would be nice, but I don't wanna be the retard to ask Dear Leader to do even more in light of how annoyed he sounded during Friday's MATI. That can be some other poor retard.

 

[BeetleBug242]

the only thing the site probably does need is a "go to your last post" button but XenForo doesn't have that information saved anywhere so I'd have to mod it custom. people have mentioned that there's no way to accomplish that without ratings and that's the only point I am willing to concede.

I just have to dedicate more memory to all my based posts spread across a week of unmedicated schizophrenia. People are just mad you took away their excuse to be a lazy bones.

 

[Netizennameless]

there is no way you a rational person can sit down and independently come to the conclusion that this "user flow" is what is the most correct and ideal way to use the fucking site, and that the absolute best way to find posts to read and threads to participate in is a random flood of notifications about random fucking button presses on random fucking posts at all times of the day.

They're not random. They are 1) links to the threads I last personally engaged in, on the page of the thread where I last engaged. and 2) they are the fastest way of getting back to the place I want to get to. I don't go to the notifications and randomly click them until something i like comes up. I have a specific page in mind I want to visit and I can either get there in 1 click with the notification or 3 clicks without, assuming I remember to go to the notifications page. Multiplied by the number of times I do this per day. Adding 2 clicks turns into hundreds of extra clicks after a few weeks.

I am not trying to argue that you NEED to bring the functionality back. It is your choice and I have always understood that. But there is a valid viewpoint for these notifications and you are insisting there is NO valid utility for it. That's where I insist that UX principles should dictate this. The ability to turn off notifications already existed in XenForo, and could have been turned off by default first as a half-measure.

With that said, blaming XenForo and not the user is unironically a better way to get the message across, as stupid as that is.

 

[Magnificent Penis]

I personally don't like them and have them disabled, but I don't like when Null fucks with the forum for no reason, and people seem to like sticker notifications, retarded as they are. So whatever, I vote yes.
edit: if it's just the notifications that people care about, couldn't you just turn those back on but keep the score hidden so reddit fags don't go around posting what they think everyone else wants to read just so they can get updoots? They might still do this for the instant dopamine hit but at least they can't do it for their e-peen big score.

 

[Lurker]

i need my reaction alerts back so i can speedrun the farms

 

[MarvinTheParanoidAndroid]

They're not random. They are 1) links to the threads I last personally engaged in, on the page of the thread where I last engaged. and 2) they are the fastest way of getting back to the place I want to get to. I don't go to the notifications and randomly click them until something i like comes up. I have a specific page in mind I want to visit and I can either get there in 1 click with the notification or 3 clicks without, assuming I remember to go to the notifications page. Multiplied by the number of times I do this per day. Adding 2 clicks turns into hundreds of extra clicks after a few weeks.

I am not trying to argue that you NEED to bring the functionality back. It is your choice and I have always understood that. But there is a valid viewpoint for these notifications and you are insisting there is NO valid utility for it. That's where I insist that UX principles should dictate this. The ability to turn off notifications already existed in XenForo, and could have been turned off by default first as a half-measure.

With that said, blaming XenForo and not the user is unironically a better way to get the message across, as stupid as that is.

If your post is good enough then people will quote reply it.

 

[Netizennameless]

If your post is good enough then people will quote reply it.

Sometimes a post is so good that nothing more needs to be said. Those are never my posts, but it happens.

 

[vomitusdeux]

Hitler should negrate everyone with a negative score and also call them a mouth breathing nigger tard.

 

[Xarpho's Return]

They're not random. They are 1) links to the threads I last personally engaged in, on the page of the thread where I last engaged. and 2) they are the fastest way of getting back to the place I want to get to. I don't go to the notifications and randomly click them until something i like comes up. I have a specific page in mind I want to visit and I can either get there in 1 click with the notification or 3 clicks without, assuming I remember to go to the notifications page. Multiplied by the number of times I do this per day. Adding 2 clicks turns into hundreds of extra clicks after a few weeks.

I am not trying to argue that you NEED to bring the functionality back. It is your choice and I have always understood that. But there is a valid viewpoint for these notifications and you are insisting there is NO valid utility for it. That's where I insist that UX principles should dictate this. The ability to turn off notifications already existed in XenForo, and could have been turned off by default first as a half-measure.

With that said, blaming XenForo and not the user is unironically a better way to get the message across, as stupid as that is.

They're only really random if you go to into lots of threads and any post you make a big impact like Null.

When Null makes a post, there's going to be dozens of people who will give him stickers of every type no matter what is said. For most users you'll only get neg-rated if you:

a) say something particularly out-of-touch with the subject at hand especially if you're the type that feeds on controversy (Dyn, HHH)
b) the occasional backhand by the odd user (not worth worrying about unless you're a complete sperg)
c) post a picture or joke of something with exceptionally poor taste. Stuff that's funny but still really off-putting will more likely get Lunacy or Islamic Content rather than Dumb or Autistic.
d) thirstposting, which only retards do

 

[Whoopsie Daisy]

If your post is good enough then people will quote reply it.

If everyone replied to the very best and/or very worst posts, the forum would be an insufferable mess of threads that turn into a dog-piling/circle-jerk list of quote replies.

If people can't easily see where their posts have had reactions, people will stop using them, lowering the engagement of the site.

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Reactions work. Fuck the people who don't like them when the majority say they want them back. It's like the faggots who didn't want the option to make profiles private. fuck those niggers.

Despite making up only a fraction of a percentage of users, reaction-haters cause 99% of the drama based on supposed drama that no-one else is causing.

And what's the deal with removing sign-up dates? I need to know who the newfags are.

 

[BeetleBug242]

This whole situation is cringe and gay. Incredibly disappointing seeing how many fucking retards plague this site. If you want constant dopamine hits go to TikTok.

 

[Abbadon's Gate]

I would say the best argument for getting rid of reactions are the following:

The best way to gain reaction (best as in easiest) is to go into A&N and just post that whatever libshit article gets posted up there is the worst thing to ever happen, or an edgy joke about niggers, and if you're there especially early you will get lots of stickers.

Or, to go into a thread and just parrot whatever the common sentiment is. Boogie do something retarded? Lol fatass hope he fucking dies soon. DSP still breathing? When will this fucker go bankrupt and admit he's a fraud? Is Rackets drunk? Here's 37 pages in two days about how he's a cuck.

For every thoughtful post about any given topic you see, especially in featured threads, there's like 30 that are just repeating the same shit.

 

[eatler]

TikTok

Reddit and tiktok don’t let you use the nigger word. Also they’re cringe and gay.

 

[Netizennameless]

Hitler should negrate everyone with a negative score and also call them a mouth breathing nigger tard.

I wonder if people would be triggered less if the reaction came from Hitler in the notification, whatever the reaction is. Hitler rated your post "feels". Basically hide who the reaction is coming from unless you physically look at the post. No point in speculating I suppose.

 

[WE'RE ALL GONNA]

In other words, users don't feel safe to post because it could harm their reaction score, which may sound (and is) stupid, but when it's literally the only prominent feature of your profile besides your username and post count, I can understand it.

First off, thank you for elaborating.

Secondly, my question is how many users don't feel safe? How do you know that there is a substantial number of the userbase who are negatively affected by their reaction score? Have you done a poll? Is it through the number of reports? I'm willing to bet that those afraid to post are in the fractions compared to those people who appreciate the presence of the reaction score. Unless the posts of those hesitant people have more value than the majority I don't really see why the reaction score was removed, besides wanting to have more unpopular/niche posts. My opinion is that if you're that afraid you'll be reeling from negative impact on your reaction score your post probably wasn't worth posting.

Obviously you want quality posts, interesting posts, etc, etc but there's the question of whether the removal of a reaction score will really have an impact. If there's no difference in either the quality or quantity of posts on the forum then the reaction score should be restored because.. No change. Maybe that's why you gave a month to test things out. If that was the case you could have handled this by explaining your decision making process like you are now.

I'm a buttfuck nobody but I just want to tell you that explaining yourself to the userbase is totally worth doing. I mean, look at this complete shitshow of a thread. People on the forum want to understand you. You might think fuckers are out to get you, well, some are, but the vast majority of users don't want to speculate about your personal life or whatever. It's people grasping at straws because of a lack of communication.

Anyway this is retarded I'm going to eat some grapes.

 

[Safir]

That's right! The table that stores user alerts! It's currently 103,540,085 rows long (and growing), and that's after I've truncated it in the past.

Hahaha what. The 29M difference is presumably from when you truncated it. This means Xenforo itself doesn't clean it, doesn't expire notifications, doesn't even clear seen notifications.

I'm amazed that this is still going

Same. I'm shocked that people want them back, I disabled them as soon as I found out I could, because reaction notifications were making reply and watch notifications hard to see.

 

[Magnificent Penis]

Here's another retarded idea: disable all of that stuff only for pink triangle users and just tag the ones that keep shitting up threads over receiving bad stickers. This also shames them far more than receiving a "dumb" sticker so it doubles as the perfect punishment for people with fragile egos, which are the main perpetrators of the problems caused by stickers in the first place.