Post Ratings Discussion

Should we have a fish hook rating?

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How big of a problem is people deleting posts over negrates, really? I see people pander for positives a few times a day, but this seems like an overcompensation for a problem that was never significant to begin with. Would you have 5-10 posts a day? I am sure you have logs of people who do that stuff, why not just disable their post delete function as a punishment for abusing the feature? To be honest, I don't see the problem really being people deleting their posts, I think it is more people not wanting to negrate other users because they think it will come back and bite them. There is A LOT of ass-patting that goes on here, so I can understand frustration with the ratings system on the side of staff, but in general people shouldn't let this stuff get under their skin.
 
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Karen Riley said:
With that said the only changes Id probably make to the ratings system are pretty minor. I always view the like rating as just being a less enthusiastic version of the winner rating and I think dislike is covered by dumb or another negative rating so I would probably remove it too if it were down to me
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Dislike is actually not negative. This is somewhat counter-intuitive and I'm not sure how many people know that.
 
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I've said this before but the problem has just gotten worse: the amount of badfeels, drama, chimpouts, and just plain focus on ratings indicates that they're too much of a distraction for this forum to handle. Even this thread for people to complain about the ratings system is nearing a thousand posts, with quite a few tl;dr.

Just get rid of the ratings altogether or massively simplify it to like and dislike.
 
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Holdek said:
The amount of badfeels, drama, chimpouts, and just plain focus on ratings indicates that they're too much of a distraction for this forum to handle. Even this thread for people to complain about the ratings system is nearing a thousand posts, with quite a few tl;dr.

Just get rid of the ratings altgether or massively simplify it to like and dislike.
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Holdek bro I just want to say you've been getting a lot of flack in this thread for rating random posts dumb and whatnot but you've always been fair with me :heart-full:
 
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The problem isn't the ratings at all, it's the tumblr faggots this place has been attracting in the past year because of its tolerance for (and of late) promotion of tumblr drama, many of whom have stuck around and unfortunately migrated to the less shitty parts of the site. Solution: get rid of the tumblr board, tighten up the rules for what qualifies as a lolcow. We don't need a thread for every dumb tumblr tranny/nigger who rants about killing whitey/straightey.
 
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People who sperg out over negative ratings deserve whatever they get. Posts that are deleted because of negative ratings probably didn't add anything to the site anyway, and staff can always undelete them if it was something particularly noteworthy or funny. I wouldn't object to simplifying the system a bit, but for the most part good posters are rewarded and people who are pitching fits over negative ratings deserved the ones they got. The ratings system works as well as anything can be expected to on a site that should be far more of a mess than it is considering the userbase and subjects.

The Kiwi threads on /cow/ are comprised mostly of people who were too autistic to fit in here, people who just like to stir up shit to get a reaction, and folks who have a hard-on for imageboards and hate the idea of forums. It's fun to watch them sperg but they're not people whose opinions are worth taking seriously.
 
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AnOminous said:
Dislike is actually not negative. This is somewhat counter-intuitive and I'm not sure how many people know that.
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The "Dislike" rating actually has quite a few uses. It's great for posts you don't like, but don't think are dumb, or even necessarily that all the points are wrong. But the most useful feature is likely that you can use it to quickly respond to info posted that you don't like, but you don't have to do so by taking it out on the messenger themselves. I used the ratings for those exact purposes just now on @trombonista on page 2 of the Non-Trump 2016 thread, since I hate Hillary Clinton like a herpes blister and news of her diminishing competition pisses me off.

People likely don't use the "Dislike" rating in such a way that often because they think it'll add a "Negative" rating to the poster for no fault of their own. This just goes to show why we need some sort of glossary for the ratings.
 
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Then maybe we should remove the dumb rating perhaps? I just feel like if part of the problem is that there's too many ratings, one for disagreeing with the post, one for saying you don't like the content of the post and one for saying you think the content of the post is stupid seems a bit of overkill.

Regardless I have to echo the sentiments behind not changing anything just because people on /cow/ said something negative about this site. A good portion of their posters Id imagine post on /cow/ because theyve been banned from here. It's shortsighted to then let them dictate how anything works on here
 
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Karen Riley said:
Then maybe we should remove the dumb rating perhaps? I just feel like if part of the problem is that there's too many ratings, one for disagreeing with the post, one for saying you don't like the content of the post and one for saying you think the content of the post is stupid seems a bit of overkill.
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Actually, I really like there being a distinction between "dumb" and "disagree," because it allows you to disagree with someone without neg-rating them. Dumb, on the other hand, is valuable, because it's also important that we do have the option to neg-rate people. Sometimes a post isn't off-topic or late, but it is bad, and the rating allows people to communicate that without necessarily clogging up the thread. Dislike, on the other hand, I tend to use less because it comes off as a bit pouty to me. If anything, I'd say autistic is the most redundant, but it's also a site joke.
 
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Holdek said:
I've said this before but the problem has just gotten worse: the amount of badfeels, drama, chimpouts, and just plain focus on ratings indicates that they're too much of a distraction for this forum to handle. Even this thread for people to complain about the ratings system is nearing a thousand posts, with quite a few tl;dr.

Just get rid of the ratings altogether or massively simplify it to like and dislike.
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For every user that gets butthurt over neg-rates, you have 200 that don't. It could probably be simplified a little but the rating system is enjoyable and used correctly by most people.

If you just got rid of dumb it would probably be enough,

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The Kiwi threads on /cow/ are comprised mostly of people who were too autistic to fit in here, people who just like to stir up shit to get a reaction, and folks who have a hard-on for imageboards and hate the idea of forums. It's fun to watch them sperg but they're not people whose opinions are worth taking seriously.
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It does concern me how much influence /cow/ has over this site. It's bizarre.
 
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MrTroll said:
and actually giving that poster a positive/neutral rating.
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Yeah, but the power of most ratings is merely communicative, if someone rates you autistic, the value is that "Oh, some people think I'm autistic/powerleveling too much, I wonder if I should go back and edit my post wow" instead of "haha, those suckers, it doesn't do anything to my poz/neg ratio :cool:". Likewise, if you keep piling negatives, they're not sapping from the life force of your account, they're just letting you know someone regarded that particular post dumb.

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The current state of having all the ratings enabled yet without alerts may be the exact compromise needed to rid the obsession with rates.
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This decreases the communication value of the ratings a shitload, because as of now the system only allows you to see the ratings if you specifically go check for them, which means that only the obsessives will go throught the trouble of checking for them. I really don't see why the system needed to be crippled from what it was ("hey, you can have a choice between being alerted to your ratings or not"). If you don't go back to check up on your old posts, you'll miss the communication value tied to them.

As an aside, does anyone else think it's kinda funny that we all dogpiled on Cucky for "caring too much about ratings", yet the single most biggest technical issue on the site has been politicking over ratings?.
 
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Ass Manager 3000 said:
For every user that gets butthurt over neg-rates, you have 200 that don't. It could probably be simplified a little but the rating system is enjoyable and used correctly by most people.
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It's the minority that ruins it for the majority.
 
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Strelok said:
Without alerts appearang for ratings, edge case users won't see negative ratings come in and be able to chimp out over then.

I think we can all agree that is a net negative. I need my self destruction cycles. They amuse me.
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I agree. I think we'd have been fine with just doing a better job of informing people that you could turn off ratings alerts.
 
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