Principles of the Kiwi Farms

Considering how fast this is going, I think it would be best to keep it short and sweet. seeing people making jokes about keffals getting swatted as an example, although funny, gives the other side ammo. People joining thinking we are their A-logging personal army carry over a mindset the other side gave them, "oh look at how evil they are!". And then they come here, post their shit and get called fags but are used to extrapolate the rest of us users because it benefits them.

Am I victim of getting mad at cows? Sometimes, does everyone? Probably at one point or another. I was infinitely more of a faggot when I joined compared to now. Why would I admit to this? as an example, you either mature and learn more about this place and have a small community you can discuss about a range of topics (or cope on support threads) or you never get it and kicked the bucket, but you will forever be used as an example by more popular people. Whichway, "newfag".

TMI or MATI if you want, I could be subconsciously coping. I was a ragebaiting faggot before, but it's better to gawk at cows like whites did to blacks many years before.
 
What is considered misinformation?
If you look at threads long enough you will see a very annoying pattern, where one user will say something, either as baseless conjecture, or even as an outright joke, which after a few pages will come to be accepted as gospel truth. Someone will speculate that perhaps a lolcow had so and so interaction with the police and might face some legal issue based off of a cryptic Facebook post or something, and within 10 pages you will have multiple users parroting the fact that said lolcow is confirmed going to prison. This problem was especially bad when Spectre was around because he would talk out of his ass all the time, but he would do it with such conviction that half the site would be convinced of absolute bullshit within the day.
 
For context and those wondering, Josh got fed up with Wings' trolls' less-than-infallible logic today starting with this post:

Going by what's in that thread, it seems to me that Null's objection is that Wings' trolls and a-logs are going from trolling, to life ruination. And I can agree.

Life ruination is not only immensely shitty and fucked up (and can backfire on you), but it would also completely defeat the purpose of having a thread on WingsofRedemption. If he's completely deplatformed, unable to make a living, and forced off the internet, then there's no content to milk and laugh at, which is the whole fucking purpose of this site.

Look, I get there are cows who are titanic pieces of shit and can try peoples' patience. MovieBob comes to mind, I'll admit that there's plenty a time I've a-logged that fat fascist Mario-fetishist. But even when you do let off some steam, you ultimately need to step back, relax, and maybe go to another thread. Taking that anger and using it to plot the downfall of a cow if fucking retarded. Remember:
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I joined recently because I've enjoyed the MATI podcast since the beginning of the year and thought I might enjoy the site too. I'm glad I didn't discover the podcast earlier because I've tried to listen to some of the back catalogue and unfortunately much of it boils down observing the painfully dull antics of 400lb American women addicted to shovelling carbohydrate slop into their bodies at a fatal pace. Criminally boring, and also disgusting. I much prefer the Gunt-centric direction the show took.

Forum seems okay, I like that free expression of thought is allowed and encouraged. I'm shocked how much this has been curtailed almost everywhere in recent years. The change has been rapid and, astonishingly to me, many people don't seem to give a shit or are actively cheering for it. Truly nigger cattle (I learned that phrase from the show, thankfully I'm in a place with very few blacks and Jews so I'd never encountered it before but that's exactly what most people seem to be, I see it so clearly now!).
 
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No way Null doesn't shut down new registrations during the trial.
Theoretically it would make sense. Although technically speaking, this trial is a bit different from what we think of when we think of trial. For example afaik Chris doesn't even have to be present.

I would close it and keep closed especially during the verdict.....if there is one and god forbid no mistrial.
 
As I used to say a lot back in the day, just calm down. This is a place to laugh at idiots on the internet. Not to moralize, not to get in a soapbox about, not to get mad about. Just point and laugh at the idiot or move on if you cant handle it. Besides, all of you are newfags to me.
 
How about don't call the cops you fucking retard.
How about stop giving swatters exactly what they want. Heard of don't feed the trolls? Don't feed the swatters.

A swatter isn't going to find personal info the same method a farms user would- they come here. It's the simplest, quickest way.

Let's assume the FBI wants swatting to stop. How would they do it- stopping websites like this one from posting dox. Why? It cuts off distribution of pertinent info to swatting. They can't overplay their hand, so they're not gonna seize hard drives or anything that drastic (for now). The FBI can't stop people from doxxing themselves or delete public info from government websites (that we know of). What they can do is make sites like this one a living hell for the host company and site owner and operators, they do that shit reflexively. You only need to piss off one person at the FBI for this to happen.
A person's living arrangement, what state they're in, what income class, etc. are all pertinent to understanding a person.
Why do you feel the compulsion to know exactly where someone lives? What are you gonna do with that information? You're right, those are all pertinent to understanding a person. Point is, why do you give a shit? Also you're conflating 'living arrangement' with address. I never brought up living arrangement. They are not the same. You can glean living arrangement from videos they post and you find people's address.

You don't need to put together an entire backstory for some retard online. Let's assume that magically, you know everything there is to know about a person you have never met and likely live multiple states away from and can predict their behavior with 100% accuracy. So what? Who cares? Lolcows aren't your little pets for you to speculate endlessly on and try to piece together their understanding of how the world works, they're just retards. When lolcows die, people will forget and move on. Even everyone's favorite 50 iq mother fucker. There is nothing new to learn from these people that you can't learn from people in your real life.
Plus where is the line then? How much can you post? What's your definition of doxing?
Ultimately, I don't care what you post. My definition of doxing is finding, compiling and posting personal info (address, employment, bank info, car info, basically irl stuff- previous account names are fair game) onto public websites and between individuals or in a group chat. I wouldn't call it doxing if it wasn't posted or distributed.

All I'm trying to get across is posting personal info can only result in nothing happening or that person getting swatted. Not posting personal info necessarily results in nothing happening. By posting personal info you only increase the likelihood of that person getting swatted. This is inarguable. Has someone ever gotten swatted prior to dox being posted? I don't know the answer to that, but I suspect not and assume it's the exception to the rule.

I would go so far as to say people posting dox are complicit in swatting. I'm not a lawyer, but at first glance to the definition of accessory before the fact and aid and abet, posting dox at the very least could have you investigated for the crime of accessory to swatting before the fact. Prosecutors would need to prove you acted with knowledge of the crime prior to the swatting, which you would have to be very exceptional to repeat anywhere . . . online or off.
Plenty of lolcows like to overshare personal information and/or use their real names online, so that’s not really a solution.

Also, real life arguments and internet personality forums are not the same thing at all.
If a lolcow uses a real name online, you can't dox their name. You can still dox everything else.
Ever heard of an analogy? Also, the real life equivalent to a thread on a forum dedicated to discussing one person is a group of gossipers talking about one person. People gossip in the exact same manner on here as they do in real life.

If you're wondering why I come to this site, it's one of the last forums that isn't 90% leftist freaks.
 
How about stop giving swatters exactly what they want. Heard of don't feed the trolls? Don't feed the swatters.

A swatter isn't going to find personal info the same method a farms user would- they come here. It's the simplest, quickest way.

Let's assume the FBI wants swatting to stop. How would they do it- stopping websites like this one from posting dox. Why? It cuts off distribution of pertinent info to swatting. They can't overplay their hand, so they're not gonna seize hard drives or anything that drastic (for now). The FBI can't stop people from doxxing themselves or delete public info from government websites (that we know of). What they can do is make sites like this one a living hell for the host company and site owner and operators, they do that shit reflexively. You only need to piss off one person at the FBI for this to happen.

Why do you feel the compulsion to know exactly where someone lives? What are you gonna do with that information? You're right, those are all pertinent to understanding a person. Point is, why do you give a shit? Also you're conflating 'living arrangement' with address. I never brought up living arrangement. They are not the same. You can glean living arrangement from videos they post and you find people's address.

You don't need to put together an entire backstory for some retard online. Let's assume that magically, you know everything there is to know about a person you have never met and likely live multiple states away from and can predict their behavior with 100% accuracy. So what? Who cares? Lolcows aren't your little pets for you to speculate endlessly on and try to piece together their understanding of how the world works, they're just retards. When lolcows die, people will forget and move on. Even everyone's favorite 50 iq mother fucker. There is nothing new to learn from these people that you can't learn from people in your real life.

Ultimately, I don't care what you post. My definition of doxing is finding, compiling and posting personal info (address, employment, bank info, car info, basically irl stuff- previous account names are fair game) onto public websites and between individuals or in a group chat. I wouldn't call it doxing if it wasn't posted or distributed.

All I'm trying to get across is posting personal info can only result in nothing happening or that person getting swatted. Not posting personal info necessarily results in nothing happening. By posting personal info you only increase the likelihood of that person getting swatted. This is inarguable. Has someone ever gotten swatted prior to dox being posted? I don't know the answer to that, but I suspect not and assume it's the exception to the rule.

I would go so far as to say people posting dox are complicit in swatting. I'm not a lawyer, but at first glance to the definition of accessory before the fact and aid and abet, posting dox at the very least could have you investigated for the crime of accessory to swatting before the fact. Prosecutors would need to prove you acted with knowledge of the crime prior to the swatting, which you would have to be very exceptional to repeat anywhere . . . online or off.

If a lolcow uses a real name online, you can't dox their name. You can still dox everything else.
Ever heard of an analogy? Also, the real life equivalent to a thread on a forum dedicated to discussing one person is a group of gossipers talking about one person. People gossip in the exact same manner on here as they do in real life.

If you're wondering why I come to this site, it's one of the last forums that isn't 90% leftist freaks.

Hey, you put a lot of effort into this post and I just wanted to let you know that I didn't read any of it.
 
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