Private/Direct Messages Chain Spam Issue

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For a long time I have tolerated annoying, gay, retarded private message chains that are hundreds of participants in size.

My theory has been that if I disable this, people will simply move to Discord, which has historically caused extreme problems as people start sending nudes, sexually harassing each other, and getting involved in ultra-gay drama that I do not have the time or patience to untangle or deal with.

DM chains on the site have been annoying but I have tolerated it as a lesser evil. After months of deleting DMs that got too annoying, I recently limited participants to 10 (either in total or per inviter?). However, after the Catler drama (not because of it), people have taken up spamming all sorts of bullshit and I am getting a dozen reports a day about these now. I think that since the Catler drama caused so much discussion, people want to try and create the next incubator for gay retarded bullshit for fun.

So now I'm implementing a rule. If you invite someone to a DM, you should be certain of one of two things:
  • That person wants to be in your DM, or
  • That person needs to be in your DM.
If a few people want to talk (i.e. the very long running Movie Night discussion threads), that's fine.
If someone needs to see something or you want to talk to a few people specifically, that's also fine.
If someone neither wants nor needs to be involved in a discussion, that is just fucking annoying.

If you're invited to a DM that is neither relevant to you or your interests, you can report it. I ask you report the FIRST MESSAGE in the DM chain, and you specify who invited you. You can see who invited you by looking at the conversation participants panel and looking under your name and custom title.

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I will start restricting DM privileges for accounts that are starting these. I encourage that people instead make use of public boards.

  • Q&A: Outside of forum rules, I don't care what is posted here. I do ask people phrase OPs with a question.
  • General Discussion: A lot of big DMs seem to be just general interest discussion and I do not know why people don't just use off-topic boards.
  • Mass Debates: This board is almost effectively just for arguing and infighting so it should be utilized more.
There's also TSIC and Supporters for senior users and donors that offers some privacy.


If there's some sort of underlying issue as to why people are making these things (like, you can't make a thread about a video game in the video game board because they're not moderated correctly?), you can gripe in this thread and I will read it.
 
My theory has been that if I disable this, people will simply move to Discord, which has historically caused extreme problems as people start sending nudes, sexually harassing each other, and getting involved in ultra-gay drama that I do not have the time or patience to untangle or deal with.
I mean, I feel like this is going to happen (and most likely is happening) regardless. Have you seen that crackhead who keeps DMing the female kiwis?
Regardless, decent rule. DMs are kind of gay.
 
Discord, which has historically caused extreme problems as people start sending nudes, sexually harassing each other, and getting involved in ultra-gay drama that I do not have the time or patience to untangle or deal with.
This is different from what goes on in DMs how exactly? I don't get it.
 
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If you're in a big DM you actually value, I'd like people to move it to a thread, and if there's some reason why that's not viable I'd be interested in hearing it.
I dont think its undoable, I think people just want to use the DMs more conversationally than threads. Like with multiple topics going. Instead of getting yelled at for derailing.

Essentially user want attention/social interaction.
 
Basically, it will shit up the forum with people talking about normal shit. Plus, certain people were actually doxing and (allegedly) fucking) each other
It's a discussion forum. This is not an issue. There's multiple off-topic boards and I'd like to see those grow so the site has some stability and activity even if we're in a slump content wise.

Edit: I think that if people feel they can't talk conversationally on the main off-topic boards, I'm doing something really wrong and I'd like to see how it can be loosened up.
 
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