Science Programmer builds AI algorithm to ‘expose’ adult actresses - find out if you can watch your ex on pornhub, 100k found and counting

Yesterday, Yiqin Fu, a research associate at Yale University, tweeted a thread about a Chinese programmer who had claimed he had built an algorithm that had identified 100,000 adult actresses by cross-referencing footage from porn videos with social media profile pictures. Using this tool, they hope to help others check whether their girlfriends have ever acted in pornographic films.

A Germany-based Chinese programmer said he and some friends have identified 100k porn actresses from around the world, cross-referencing faces in porn videos with social media profile pictures. The goal is to help others check whether their girlfriends ever acted in those films. pic.twitter.com/TOuUBTqXOP



— Yiqin Fu (@yiqinfu) May 28, 2019

The facial recognition reportedly tool took half a year to build and has over 100 terabytes of video data pulled from sites including Pornhub, 91, 1024, sex8, and xvideos. This was compared against profile pictures from Facebook, Instagram, TikTok, Weibo, and others.

When the software was first announced, it had around 1,000 comments — most expressing their excitement about the service with replies like “A true blessing for us credulous programmers,” “When can we use it?,” and “Wtf I love the tech future now.”

On the thread, Fu noted that the most up-voted comment asked if the OP plans on identifying the men in porn videos to which he replied how he’s open to the idea. But for legal reasons, he said he may have to “anonymize the data” before letting people query the database.

This isn’t the first time someone has used AI to identify faces in porn. In 2017, Pornhub announced that it was using machine learning and facial recognition to detect over 10,000 porn stars across the site in an effort to make it easier for users to find content they like. At the time, Motherboard argued the development was a privacy nightmare waiting to happen.

But unlike Pornhub, the intent here is much more ill-conceived. Porn stars often rely on pseudonyms to shield off their personal matters from their stage personas. From that perspective, cross-referencing porn videos with social media content could seriously endanger this boundary.

The programmer who built the tool was also asked whether he knew what sort of legal jeopardy he could be in. But claimed that everything was legal because he hasn’t shared any data or opened up the database to outside queries, and sex work is currently legal in Germany, where he’s based.

While this technology has the potential to find victims of human trafficking or other forms of sexual exploitations, that’s not the intent here. Rather, it’s a weapon for shaming women and stripping them of their privacy. One user on Fu’s thread tweeted how it won’t be long until people abuse this service to find porn stars that look similar to people they know in real life. That, combined with the sophistication of AI-generated ‘deepfake’ videos, proves the future is truly a horrific place to be a woman.



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"Whether the Weibo user’s claims are trustworthy or not is beside the point, now that experts in feminist studies and machine learning have decried this project as algorithmically-targeted harassment. "

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DIY Facial Recognition for Porn Is a Dystopian Disaster
Someone is making dubious claims to have built a program for detecting faces in porn and cross-referencing against social media, with 100,000 identified so far.
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Someone posting on Chinese social network Weibo claims to have used facial recognition to cross-reference women’s photos on social media with faces pulled from videos on adult platforms like Pornhub.

In a Monday post on Weibo, the user, who says he's based in Germany, claimed to have “successfully identified more than 100,000 young ladies” in the adult industry “on a global scale.”

To be clear, the user has posted no proof that he’s actually been able to do this, and hasn’t published any code, databases, or anything else besides an empty GitLab page to verify this is real. When Motherboard contacted the user over Weibo chat, he said they will release “database schema” and “technical details” next week, and did not comment further.

Still, his post has gone viral in both China on Weibo and in the United States on Twitter after a Stanford political science PhD candidate tweeted them with translations, which Motherboard independently verified. This has led prominent activists and academics to discuss the potential implications of the technology.

According to Weibo posts, the user and some of his programming friends used facial recognition to detect faces in porn content using photos from social platforms. His reasoning for making this program, he wrote, is “to have the right to know on both sides of the marriage.” After public outcry, he later claimed his intention was to allow women, with or without their fiancées, to check if they are on porn sites and to send a copyright takedown request.

"This is horrendous and a pitch-perfect example of how these systems, globally, enable male dominance," Soraya Chemaly, author of Rage Becomes Her, tweeted on Tuesday about the alleged project. "Surveillance, impersonation, extortion, misinformation all happen to women first and then move to the public sphere, where, once men are affected, it starts to get attention."



Whether the Weibo user’s claims are trustworthy or not is beside the point, now that experts in feminist studies and machine learning have decried this project as algorithmically-targeted harassment. This kind of program’s existence is both possible and frightening, and has started a conversation around whether such a program would be an ethically or legally responsible use of AI.

Just as we saw with deepfakes, which used AI to swap the faces of female celebrities onto the bodies of porn performers, the use of machine learning to control and extort women's bodily autonomy demonstrates deep misogyny. It's a threat that didn't begin with deepfakes, but certainly reached a public sphere with that technology—although in the years since, women have been left behind in the mainstream narrative, which has focused on the technology’s possible use for disinformation.

Danielle Citron, a professor of law at the University of Maryland who's studied the aftermath of deepfakes, also tweeted about this new claim on Weibo. "This is a painfully bad idea—surveillance and control of women’s bodies taken to new low," she wrote.

What he claims to have done is theoretically possible for someone with a decent amount of machine learning and programming knowledge, given enough time and computing power, though it would be a huge effort with no guarantee of quality.

The ability to create a database of faces like this, and deploy facial recognition to target and expose women within it, has been within consumer-level technological reach for some time.

In 2017, Pornhub proudly announced new facial recognition features that it claimed would make it easier for users to find their favorite stars—and, in turn, theoretically easier for abusers or harassers to find their targets. As I wrote at the time:

Even if Pornhub deploys this technology in an ethical way, its existence should be concerning. Such technology is unlikely to stay proprietary for long, and given that some people on the internet make a habit of identifying amateur or unwitting models, the underlying tech could supercharge some of these efforts.

In 2018, online trolls started compiling databases of sex workers, in order to threaten and out them. This harassment campaign had real-life consequences, with some sex workers having their payment processors or social media platforms shut down.

What this Weibo programmer is claiming to have built is a combination of these two ideas: A misogynistic, abusive attempt at controlling women. Whether it's real or not, it's representative of the dark paths where machine learning technology—and some of the societal toxicity around it—has taken us.
Jordan Pearson contributed reporting to this story.


original tweet that "broke" this story. The comments are a gold mine
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My only issue with this is, that it's only for female sex workers and not for men as well (or at least it sounds like that to me...?).
Nobody wants a male whore either.
Seeing as this guy is chinese - and we all know that asian men openly sleep around like there's no tomorrow - this would make more sense. On the other hand, he probably doesn't, afterall chinese men aren't really considered "hot" in Germany.
Living the incel revenge fantasy dream like a true soyboy. I bet his tiger mom is really proud of him...lol
 
Hey, good point about divorces. That's why everyone was happier before no fault divorces we're allowed right? Have you considered those one partner women might perhaps have some religious reason for not getting a divorce?

I mean, yeah, porn isn't a normal job. Neither is being an actor or model. I'm sure there are some good reasons for some people to not date them.

Your discomfort with women having too many partners seems to be based on some weird concept of "purity" and is nothing more than your subjective opinion, no matter how many studies from the institute of being a good Christian you quote.

You have your right to your wrong opinion, just as I have a right to mine. We'd both be idiots to argue our subjective opinion is objectively right though.
Anyone who thinks a woman's value goes down just because she doesn't save her chastity for you and only you is a nice guy I agree, but there's a lot more good points going on in this thread too. I think it's perfectly reasonable to factor in the decision to participate in porn when you're evaluating a potential partner. If someone is collecting zoo animals because they want to start their own circus I wouldn't want to date them either; morality doesn't enter into it, it's just very indicative that you may be dealing with a batshit mind.

Seems pretty shitty since the point is presumably to track people down for shaming, mostly from people who would whine if porn suddenly stopped being a thing.
There's fair room to bring this up too. I sometimes think the same thing about men who are so pro-life yet still want to engage in casual sex with women. I understand intelligent pro-life arguments a lot more now than I did a couple years ago since being exposed to more, but it's still applicable to plenty of hypocrites.
 
There's fair room to bring this up too. I sometimes think the same thing about men who are so pro-life yet still want to engage in casual sex with women. I understand intelligent pro-life arguments a lot more now than I did a couple years ago since being exposed to more, but it's still applicable to plenty of hypocrites.

Show of hands, how many people would want to marry someone who would never, ever willingly put out?
 
My only issue with this is, that it's only for female sex workers and not for men as well (or at least it sounds like that to me...?).
Nobody wants a male whore either.

I'm sure someone's going to make the male equivalent (it sounds like it's female-only to me as well, dunno how FRT works).
 
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I'm sure someone's going to make the male equivalent (it sounds like it's female-only to me as well, dunno how FRT works).
Male porn actors obviously don't get the same pay or fame as their female counterparts, but their careers are a lot more stable and longstanding. The industry is basically designed to lure in naive teenage girls who have no business experience (and therefore can't negotiate well for their pay), then toss them after 6 months or a year because there's an endless train of instathots who think porn is the ticket to a glamorous easy life.

My point is, I wouldn't expect a male-oriented version of this program to be as threatening to the male actors, because it's their stable career and their identities are probably already out there anyway.

Unless you're talking gay/trap porn or whatever, I suppose that side of it is a lot more under the table and unstable.
 
I'm sure someone's going to make the male equivalent (it sounds like it's female-only to me as well, dunno how FRT works).

I assumed there was a data problem, because straight porn tends to focus on the woman, while the man's face is obscured or not shown for most of the video. (Which makes the old feminist complaint of "objectifying women" funny, because the men in porn are often reduced to a disembodied torso+penis.)

That's not a real barrier, just harder to build a decent data set on the male side. I would 100% support getting a male version of this up and running, but it's kind of moot right now since the guy who created it isn't allowing outside access.
 
I guarantee you that NSA was on this like fly on shit. The biggest issue with security clearances is your propensity to be blackmailed, much more than your character. It could be financial problems, debt, gambling, addiction and infidelity. So I'm pretty positive that any spy agency worth it's salt has been doing exactly this. Soviets used the "honey trap" as a standard OP to great success.

So the cat is out of the bag and this has been going on already, just not so much in the private sector. Chinese .gov use FR a lot, right or wrong.

I was born long before the internet age and one saying I was taught early on: "Take care of new shirt from the time of purchase and your honor from youth" and "honor" means that, not necessarily "purity". If you end up making public statements, they'll stay with you forever.

In terms of "right to be forgotten" ... lol, I doubt NSA and most intelligence agencies forget shit. It's just a matter of who owns the info and can it be strategically leaked. It's hogwash. I'd not trust these laws.

I bet that this will lead to a whole lot of extortion scams. It's a fucking goldmine. I guarantee you that this probably underway already. Lot's of money to be made here.

One that leaked was a Liechtenstein bank director having an affair with some very young coworker. So, CIA gave him a choice: we send these tapes to the board and your wife and the news, or you are our bitch for life. He chose bitch. And they fucked him over anyway. It was Primakov I believe that named 2 people very high up that fell for the honey trap in his book, not directly by name but year and position and country, so next best thing.

Just imagine how many of these stories there are out there. Now imagine you being in a good position. "Well you either pay us €50K or we send every classmate of your teenage sons this nice tape of Lady Vacuum. And how well will that go over with your confidential clearance at work genius?" Hell, if I found out some guy with cash has an exporn wife either she can siphon some botox funds to my BTC or Mr Husbando can cough it up to avoid problems. Most of you would try to get ahead too, admit it.
 
He baleeted it

An anonymous programmer based in Germany caused outrage this week for supposedly using face-recognition technology to “catch” women who had appeared in porn. He says he’s since deleted the project and all its data, but that’s not an act of altruism. Such a project would have violated European privacy law anyway, though it would have been okay elsewhere.
There is still no proof that the global system—which allegedly matched women’s social-media photos with images from sites like Pornhub—actually worked, or even existed. Still, the technology is possible and would have had awful consequences. “It’s going to kill people,” says Carrie A. Goldberg, an attorney who specializes in sexual privacy violations and author of the forthcoming book Nobody’s Victim: Fighting Psychos, Stalkers, Pervs, and Trolls. “Some of my most viciously harassed clients have been people who did porn, oftentimes one time in their life and sometimes nonconsensually [because] they were duped into it. Their lives have been ruined because there’s this whole culture of incels that for a hobby expose women who’ve done porn and post about them online and dox them.” (Incels, or “involuntary celibates,” are a misogynistic online subculture of men who claim they are denied sex by women.)
The European Union’s GDPR privacy law prevents this kind of situation. Though the programmer—who posted about the project on the Chinese social network Weibo—originally insisted everything was fine because he didn’t make the information public, just collecting the data is illegal if the women didn’t consent, according to Börge Seeger, a data protection expert and partner at German law firm Neuwerk. These laws apply to any information from EU residents, so they would have held even if the programmer weren’t living in the EU.
Under GDPR, personal data (and especially sensitive biometric data) needs to be collected for specific and legitimate purposes. Scraping data to figure out if someone once appeared in porn is not that. And if the programmer had charged money to access this information, he could have faced up to three years in prison under German criminal law, adds Seeger.
Women in the US have some protections too. Though there’s no federal privacy law, California has strong privacy legislation that would block this type of data collection, explains Christina Gagnier, a lawyer and adjunct faculty teaching privacy at UC Irvine School of Law. Because California has so many residents and industries, and data travels across state lines, the state ends up setting privacy law for the rest of the nation. It would be illegal for someone in South Dakota, for example, to set up this database while using California data — which would be hard to avoid given that the porn industry is based in Los Angeles County.

That still leaves people in many other countries vulnerable. And enforcement of these laws is tricky, adds Gagnier. Data protection authorities in individual countries are responsible for compliance, but they need to choose their battles and it can be hard to serve people with lawsuits. Reached last night via Weibo, the programmer (who did not give his real name) insisted that the technology was real, but acknowledged that it raised legal issues. He’s sorry to have caused trouble. But he’s not the only one able to build this technology, or the only one interested in using it for dangerous purposes. Policymakers concerned with global privacy law need to start thinking ahead.

 
Cuuuucked. Eufags will now get even moar syphylis. Also lol at the cucks in the thread who thirst for hoes. At least go for a nutcase lolcow here, the Slaton sisters are waiting.
 
I'll throw my autism helmet into the ring.

Anyone who thinks a woman's value goes down just because she doesn't save her chastity for you and only you is a nice guy I agree, but there's a lot more good points going on in this thread too. I think it's perfectly reasonable to factor in the decision to participate in porn when you're evaluating a potential partner. If someone is collecting zoo animals because they want to start their own circus I wouldn't want to date them either; morality doesn't enter into it, it's just very indicative that you may be dealing with a batshit mind.

The argument is more or less the same as "you are what you eat". You eating a healthy and varied diet would be a different person from the you that only eats onion rings and chicken nuggets. It's not about the diet itself, there's a reasoning, decision, outcome and choice for most everything you do. In much the same way "you are what you do" applies to this discussion.
Hypothetical: someone that quits his job in retail to apprentice as a plumber and the same person quitting his job in retail to bottom in gay-for-pay porn will five years from then be very different from each other even if they started as the same person. That's completely ignoring WHY someone would choose porn, the why is important but I think it works to show what I'm thinking.

A non-porn real life example.
There was a girl that floated into my social circle, she was not yet 20, 19-something, completely on the sex-positive feminist train of thought, and she was upset that some guys in her small-ish city turned her down now that she was looking for a relationship. According to her it was just because she had cracked triple digits in partners. Over a hundred different dudes in 2-3 years.

Maybe that's unfair of them. But being like that creates a reputation and more importantly an expectation, being ok with the reputation and fulfilling the expectation(the gravy bowl hadn't stopped at a 100) might be too much baggage for some, it also raises question about the person and the reasoning behind their choices, it also makes you wonder what environments that person is moving in, what kind of people are around them. Really, what kind of person are they?

It was noticeable that this person had a different type of socialization but should that even be surprising? Should people not notice that? Fucking a 100 people is about more than fucking a 100 people.
 
AI turned from thought provoking to thot provoking real quick. First sexbots, then the ThotAudit, now this.
I wonder what will be next. I hope to God it's something even more crazy. Just to see how the Gender Studies majors react to it.
 
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He baleeted it

An anonymous programmer based in Germany caused outrage this week for supposedly using face-recognition technology to “catch” women who had appeared in porn. He says he’s since deleted the project and all its data, but that’s not an act of altruism. Such a project would have violated European privacy law anyway, though it would have been okay elsewhere.
There is still no proof that the global system—which allegedly matched women’s social-media photos with images from sites like Pornhub—actually worked, or even existed. Still, the technology is possible and would have had awful consequences. “It’s going to kill people,” says Carrie A. Goldberg, an attorney who specializes in sexual privacy violations and author of the forthcoming book Nobody’s Victim: Fighting Psychos, Stalkers, Pervs, and Trolls. “Some of my most viciously harassed clients have been people who did porn, oftentimes one time in their life and sometimes nonconsensually [because] they were duped into it. Their lives have been ruined because there’s this whole culture of incels that for a hobby expose women who’ve done porn and post about them online and dox them.” (Incels, or “involuntary celibates,” are a misogynistic online subculture of men who claim they are denied sex by women.)
The European Union’s GDPR privacy law prevents this kind of situation. Though the programmer—who posted about the project on the Chinese social network Weibo—originally insisted everything was fine because he didn’t make the information public, just collecting the data is illegal if the women didn’t consent, according to Börge Seeger, a data protection expert and partner at German law firm Neuwerk. These laws apply to any information from EU residents, so they would have held even if the programmer weren’t living in the EU.
Under GDPR, personal data (and especially sensitive biometric data) needs to be collected for specific and legitimate purposes. Scraping data to figure out if someone once appeared in porn is not that. And if the programmer had charged money to access this information, he could have faced up to three years in prison under German criminal law, adds Seeger.
Women in the US have some protections too. Though there’s no federal privacy law, California has strong privacy legislation that would block this type of data collection, explains Christina Gagnier, a lawyer and adjunct faculty teaching privacy at UC Irvine School of Law. Because California has so many residents and industries, and data travels across state lines, the state ends up setting privacy law for the rest of the nation. It would be illegal for someone in South Dakota, for example, to set up this database while using California data — which would be hard to avoid given that the porn industry is based in Los Angeles County.

That still leaves people in many other countries vulnerable. And enforcement of these laws is tricky, adds Gagnier. Data protection authorities in individual countries are responsible for compliance, but they need to choose their battles and it can be hard to serve people with lawsuits. Reached last night via Weibo, the programmer (who did not give his real name) insisted that the technology was real, but acknowledged that it raised legal issues. He’s sorry to have caused trouble. But he’s not the only one able to build this technology, or the only one interested in using it for dangerous purposes. Policymakers concerned with global privacy law need to start thinking ahead.


They got to him and slapped him with papers. Stop now or else. The cat is out of the bag anyway. It can be done. Faces can be picked out by a computer, social networks can be harvested. If the FSB/BND/DGSE/NSA were not working this already, they are now.

A non-porn real life example.
There was a girl that floated into my social circle, she was not yet 20, 19-something, completely on the sex-positive feminist train of thought, and she was upset that some guys in her small-ish city turned her down now that she was looking for a relationship. According to her it was just because she had cracked triple digits in partners. Over a hundred different dudes in 2-3 years.

Maybe that's unfair of them. But being like that creates a reputation and more importantly an expectation, being ok with the reputation and fulfilling the expectation(the gravy bowl hadn't stopped at a 100) might be too much baggage for some, it also raises question about the person and the reasoning behind their choices, it also makes you wonder what environments that person is moving in, what kind of people are around them. Really, what kind of person are they?

It was noticeable that this person had a different type of socialization but should that even be surprising? Should people not notice that? Fucking a 100 people is about more than fucking a 100 people.

If she is sex positive she can stay that way. If she looked at me, I'd have a go. And leave. Would you expect her to be monogamous? If you want an open relationship, great. It just is not for me. If you would consider that unfair, get used to it, life is unfair.
 
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I saw a post on Reddit the other day (forgive me Dear Leader) about a woman with a porn star doppleganger. It made me think of this thread.
I can't find that post, I've tried, but there's ample proof that the premise of the algorithm is flawed. Celebrity dopplegangers are a thing in porn, so it goes to figure the algorithm will inevitably fuck over innocent women.
 
Some people probably would forgive such, although I personally believe I couldn't. In the past I knew this guy who did porn, and his wife was completely okay with it although she had completely "normal" job and wasn't at all involved with porn, so I guess some people do love each other to the point of accepting even that. Still, there was no lies attached to that relationship, as the woman knew everything all the time.

My original point was simply that love, as an emotion, should be unconditional. Otherwise it's not true love, and you shouldn't choose to live with someone based on something less than true love.

Lol, I can tell you grew up with disney films, if you believe this shit.
 
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I saw a post on Reddit the other day (forgive me Dear Leader) about a woman with a porn star doppleganger. It made me think of this thread.
I can't find that post, I've tried, but there's ample proof that the premise of the algorithm is flawed. Celebrity dopplegangers are a thing in porn, so it goes to figure the algorithm will inevitably fuck over innocent women.
I'm super-mega late to this autism slapfight but that was my issue with this. It's all well and good to say "I fed this algorithm with thousands of hours of porn and it cross rerefenced it to all these social media profiles" but how do you know it's done it right and not just made a bunch of "kinda-sorta looks like her" matches? The whole point of training data for AI or machine learning is you already know it's good, and you benchmark the accuracy of your algorithm before you let it loose on real-world examples where you don't already know the answer.

Also, can you imagine what it would be like to have a view into the mind of an AI whose entire life has been spent watching hours and hours of porn? LOL of course, it would basically be the average internet user.
 
Also, can you imagine what it would be like to have a view into the mind of an AI whose entire life has been spent watching hours and hours of porn? LOL of course, it would basically be the average internet user.

It would be like this, except this one only knows about dogs and some other animals.
 
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A non-porn real life example.
There was a girl that floated into my social circle, she was not yet 20, 19-something, completely on the sex-positive feminist train of thought, and she was upset that some guys in her small-ish city turned her down now that she was looking for a relationship. According to her it was just because she had cracked triple digits in partners. Over a hundred different dudes in 2-3 years.
I've known a few people, men and women, who didn't want to date someone for this same reason. They all brought up that if the other person is so used to banging around with hundreds of people, then why should I expect they'll stay with me? There's countless stories in their lives of them dumping one partner and going on to the next the moment the relationship isn't perfect. It's never about "too much sex is immoral". It's just that they create a standard that normal people don't want to live up to.
 
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