ProjectMoon Megathread - Lobotomy Corporation, Library of Ruina, Limbus Company, etc.

[Knifeguncat]

I tried using Yesod's floor for general receptions, but since my PC is way too weak, I couldn't use it due to the huge slowdowns I'd get (ironically it's the only floor my PC struggled to run; I didn't have any problems with the others, especially moving floors like Hod's).

Yeah it’s weird: Hod’s leak issue got fixed halfway through dev but then Yesod got a huge slowdown around the Impuritias update. PM Code just works, I guess.

To bring something fresh: I was shown this monstrosity (archive) earlier. Boiled down, it just slaps everything as a gender metaphor. The very explicit ties of each abnormality to the Realisation boss’ mental state, spelled out to you via the floating red text? Naaah. It means they’re a tranny. Just trying to give people some form of will to live via Light? They’re all just eggs!

…also, do Pierre or Jack really look “androgynous”? Or Greta for that matter? What kind of Oswald clownworld is this person living in?

Author’s Twitter (Archive)
Carrd About (Archive)

Ooh, fujoshi “transmasc”. Nevermind.

EDIT: Dug further.

AO3 (Archive)
Old Twitter (Archive)
Reddit (Archive)
ko-fi (Archive, changed from goomyfish to lucafish)

Sorry if all this sperging is off topic. It’s just that the fandom members are a lot more interesting than the games especially during the downtime.

 

[UtadaWasabi2]

Now that I think about it C's seed of light probably give me shit ego.


with my limited understanding I still like to believe that A let Angela betray him in order to stop his waifu plan.

 

[Knifeguncat]

Now that I think about it C's seed of light probably give me shit ego.


with my limited understanding I still like to believe that A let Angela betray him in order to stop his waifu plan.

That’s heavily implied to the the case. It’s literally 5D Chess between Ayin, Carmen, the Head, and Iori.

Spoiler: Impuritias Sperg

Keter realisation reveals that Carmen knew what was going to happen if she dies, and her post realisation dialogue proves that she actively wants Distortion to occur.

With everything in place I truly wonder how PM will ever be able to escape their OG cast of characters when everything post LC happens because of them, one way or another.

 

[SnakeEye]

With everything in place I truly wonder how PM will ever be able to escape their OG cast of characters when everything post LC happens because of them, one way or another.

Well, that's what Limbus is about isn't it? Not to mention, they could just have a story in the past, or one that concentrates on a Company or Syndicate we haven't seen yet. And while we've speculated that they probably would appear as fanservice on Limbus, I think characters fought on the receptions to be the most likely to return, there are a lot of interesting stories you could tell about what happened to them after the end of LoR.
Also, I would really like a mafia story about the Thumb taking place in the city, it would be kinda funny but pretty cool too.

 

[LivingRoom]

Yeah it’s weird: Hod’s leak issue got fixed halfway through dev but then Yesod got a huge slowdown around the Impuritias update. PM Code just works, I guess.

To bring something fresh: I was shown this monstrosity (archive) earlier. Boiled down, it just slaps everything as a gender metaphor. The very explicit ties of each abnormality to the Realisation boss’ mental state, spelled out to you via the floating red text? Naaah. It means they’re a tranny. Just trying to give people some form of will to live via Light? They’re all just eggs!

…also, do Pierre or Jack really look “androgynous”? Or Greta for that matter? What kind of Oswald clownworld is this person living in?

Author’s Twitter (Archive)
Carrd About (Archive)

Ooh, fujoshi “transmasc”. Nevermind.

EDIT: Dug further.

AO3 (Archive)
Old Twitter (Archive)
Reddit (Archive)
ko-fi (Archive, changed from goomyfish to lucafish)

Sorry if all this sperging is off topic. It’s just that the fandom members are a lot more interesting than the games especially during the downtime.

Lol I'm sorry but I can't take it seriously when he mentioned Hokmaballs as being his favourite character even though he's a simp for A (hence why his floor is religion; and I'm not even kidding here). And then he mentions Roland being a transgender up for interpretation;

Spoiler

because his story wasn't about his grief

but because he couldn't decide if he wanted to have a penis or not!

All I need is to see someone talking about how this game defends women's image by presenting them as strong and independent women (Kali, Binah, PT, Xiao and many others come to mind) and I'll be done.

 

[Knifeguncat]

All I need is to see someone talking about how this game defends women's image by presenting them as strong and independent women (Kali, Binah, PT, Xiao and many others come to mind) and I'll be done.

You should see my posts over in the SJW Art thread then. Jona fits that to a tee, as well as Wolvzephyr.

Any EN posts about Dias (you know, who fits “abuser” perfectly), Moses, Angelica, and Nikolai also devolve into #strongwomyn.

but because he couldn't decide if he wanted to have a penis or not!

Oh boy. Did you know EN used to aggressively insist that Angelica was just Argalia pretransition? And that his whole “roland bad” is some weird fujoshi hatesex thing. They only stopped around Chesed realisation to fujoshi over rolsed when we finally saw a second pic of Angelica outside of the Plague intro.

 

[SnakeEye]

Oh boy. Did you know EN used to aggressively insist that Angelica was just Argalia pretransition? And that his whole “roland bad” is some weird fujoshi hatesex thing. They only stopped around Chesed realisation to fujoshi over rolsed when we finally saw a second pic of Angelica outside of the Plague intro.

Jesus, man. Got any more stories on the crazy fujoshis that play these games? Or are they like Persona 5 fans and just watch YouTube videos of the game?

 

[Knifeguncat]

Jesus, man. Got any more stories on the crazy fujoshis that play these games? Or are they like Persona 5 fans and just watch YouTube videos of the game?

Oh they actually do play the game... badly. From the more popular ENers, Chocofuru (a weeb who fakes being jp and hates it if you mention she's not jp + got suspended thanks to explicit guro and couldn't figure out why she got suspended) plays some weird ass Courage build that requires mods to keep running beyond Scene 3. Good chunk of them just follow fish444 philosophy and try to fullstop everything, then just super Finn it when it fails.

Most of these weirdos came out of the woodwork thanks to Library of Ruina, they don't actually have the patience to play Lobotomy Corp and being shown their precious Angela being an actual asshole is uwu bad. So if you can somehow isolate your fandom viewing experience, the LC side is a lot more halal.

Regarding fandom tales™, some prime public picks I remember:

Spoiler: baby fights

-Maxwell had a breakdown over the old version of the 8 o' Clock Circus' Wiki page using the term "circus freaks" because it's "ableist". She was talking mad shit on twitter but if you hopped over to the Wiki server, you could see a complete 180° in her attitude where she was pretty much sucking Matibear's dick. Mati kept it up for a while but eventually caved in, coward.

-The entire Chocofuru thing I mentioned. She got suspended because ma'am you're drawing explicit disembowelment and decapitation on a non-sensitive twitter, whined about it, hopped from account to account until Twitter finally gave up trying to suspend her. She's well known for a picrew you can make your agents on.

-#interpvcanon is actually Jona's fault if you ever saw that trend! Another cringe hashtag she started was the Vocaloid x Project Moon one, which was a huge 50/50 since some good artists actually did pile on (unlike interpvcanon turning into blacktober 3.0)

-Jona also had a "visual novel" she was working on, that she ended up cancelling due to some place mocking her art. I only made my analysis post on the SJW art thread after the cancelation, so I suspect it was one of the /vst/ threads which ripped it to shreds. The premise was Angela turning the Library into a beach episode, and she got as far as doing the base for Yesod before quitting. The entire Malkuth chapter was Emmanoah faggotry to appeal to Maxwell, and she somehow failed to make a proper "return to menu" endflag so it'd just loop over and over again.

The Twitters to stalk if you want PM drama are Jona (@I_LOVE_ROLAND / @kfov_851 / qroken or owob on many other sites) and Maxwell (@maxpawb / @circusof8pm, activity kinda low as of late due to focusing on college). A lot of the other weirdos are just subset simps of these two people, or don't create big enough fusses to be notable. If you're fine with on/off then there's also @argsimp for lore failure ig.

 

[SnakeEye]

@Knifeguncat, how fucking sad. They can't even bother to try making the game fun, and just stick to the meta (?) since they only care about the characters (more like their imagined versions of them) it seems.
Honestly, I don't know any builds and avoided anything about them so I could figure things out myself. But there really are some crazy things you can do even early on, huh?
Considering their obsessiveness, how much do you want to bet they'll complain once Limbus comes out and none of their favorites are in? I think they'll act the same way as the Genshin twitter famdom.

 

[UtadaWasabi2]

So at the end of LoR
Angela vomit out all of invited people right? And everyone survive except the Ensemble right? It has been so long since I watched epilogue. It just come across my mind that I find it funny Philip died while his crush and his master lived.

 

[LivingRoom]

So at the end of LoR
Angela vomit out all of invited people right? And everyone survive except the Ensemble right? It has been so long since I watched epilogue. It just come across my mind that I find it funny Philip died while his crush and his master lived.

Not really.

Spoiler

Since Roland grabbed Angela before she got consumed by the light (or something like that), we don't know what happened to everyone she spat out. I also don't get what happened to people like Love Town, Yan and etcetera, but whatever. And yeah, I found Philip's case ironic: had he not ran away from battle like a wimp, he'd most likely have a shot at reuniting with his master and crush.

 

[Knifeguncat]

Not really.

Spoiler

Since Roland grabbed Angela before she got consumed by the light (or something like that), we don't know what happened to everyone she spat out. I also don't get what happened to people like Love Town, Yan and etcetera, but whatever. And yeah, I found Philip's case ironic: had he not ran away from battle like a wimp, he'd most likely have a shot at reuniting with his master and crush.

Spoiler: lore

Lovetown is dead. They could only live thanks to the Train’s stasis + distortion effects of BRN and Puppeteer, but now that that’s all gone they’re 100% dead. Tommy’s head also exploded so even if Tomerry did survive, only Merry would be alive.

Yan, Emma, and Noah should still be distorted/mutilated? And the rest of the non-Ensemble guests are scattered across the City due to Roland. Slapstick Spinoff where Rats try to survive Night in The Backstreets with their Finger senpais wen.

@Knifeguncat, how fucking sad. They can't even bother to try making the game fun, and just stick to the meta (?) since they only care about the characters (more like their imagined versions of them) it seems.
Honestly, I don't know any builds and avoided anything about them so I could figure things out myself. But there really are some crazy things you can do even early on, huh?
Considering their obsessiveness, how much do you want to bet they'll complain once Limbus comes out and none of their favorites are in? I think they'll act the same way as the Genshin twitter famdom.

Oh nothing I mentioned was meta. Courage is… not great? And superFinn is a mod. In short, they just cheat. I have more respect for people sticking to usual Nikolai+Purple Tear+Binah+Xiao+[one more SOTC R3+ Object d’Art] meta than cheaters.

Also, Maxwell already nutted over HongLu and Gregor because they look like Noah and Emma. Everyone’s gurlbossing Outis because she looks like Dias. The ENtards will be fiiiiine.

 

[SnakeEye]

Oh nothing I mentioned was meta. Courage is… not great? And superFinn is a mod. In short, they just cheat. I have more respect for people sticking to usual Nikolai+Purple Tear+Binah+Xiao+[one more SOTC R3+ Object d’Art] meta than cheaters.

Also, Maxwell already nutted over HongLu and Gregor because they look like Noah and Emma. Everyone’s gurlbossing Outis because she looks like Dias. The ENtards will be fiiiiine.

Damn, I got everything wrong! But that's somehow even worse. There's no way they'll get through the Reverberation Ensemble this way, right?
And, I can't wait for the "Gregor is trans" headcanons, after all, being a cockroach is something all trans people can relate to.

 

[SnakeEye]

Minor Update: PM posted a clear picture of the City in it's interity.

There's some interesting things to this map:

• There's no visible Z Corp.
• There appears to be a second wall after the Outskirts.
• The City's seems to be the size of an actual city.

Hopefully, they'll continue posting more things, it's boring having to wait like this.

 

[Knifeguncat]

PM released a QnA form for an upcoming interview they plan to do. You may find it here. (It’s in Korean, good luck)

Have a few questions I’d like to ask, but knowing CKC will skim through it to hide anything related to the recent plagiarism incident for translation purposes is giving me flashbacks to the post-WL QnA.

 

[SnakeEye]

PM released a QnA form for an upcoming interview they plan to do. You may find it here. (It’s in Korean, good luck)

Have a few questions I’d like to ask, but knowing CKC will skim through it to hide anything related to the recent plagiarism incident for translation purposes is giving me flashbacks to the post-WL QnA.

Plagiarism? Did they copy someone else's translation? Was it related to that Ian Watson guy?
Also, if you really want to ask something, there's no reason not to try, just make sure you use the "correct" wording, you know?
Edit: I've sent a simple question in Korean, and it was really fast, from translating it to checking if it was correct, both using internet translators. There's no reason not to try if you're interested, even if it probably won't get picked.

 

[Knifeguncat]

Plagiarism? Did they copy someone else's translation? Was it related to that Ian Watson guy?
Also, if you really want to ask something, there's no reason not to try, just make sure you use the "correct" wording, you know?
Edit: I've sent a simple question in Korean, and it was really fast, from translating it to checking if it was correct, both using internet translators. There's no reason not to try if you're interested, even if it probably won't get picked.

The Limbus posters used to have quotes from the book... until a translator tranny called out Project Moon (yes, Project Moon, not Cool Kids Club the Translation team) for using her translation of The Wings (for Yi Sang) without credit. There was a meltdown in the CKC server, where Watson whined about how he "used to look up to [translator]" and "thought [she'd] like her translation being used".

EN blamed PM + the translator for not doing it privately (ironic, considering callout culture + translator being a tranny like 99% of them), KR and Literally Every Other Side rightfully blamed CKC. PM took down all the posters to date (Sinclair, Rodion, Gregor, and Yi Sang) and posted this.

CKC didn't get punished beyond an implied wrist slap. There were a few rumours circulating about how this isn't the first time CKC has stolen translations, but I never saw any sources to back those up.

Regarding my question, it would have been about the lack of action with regards to this and Mimi's general poor public attitude, so there's no point trying in the first place

 

[SnakeEye]

CKC didn't get punished beyond an implied wrist slap. There were a few rumours circulating about how this isn't the first time CKC has stolen translations, but I never saw any sources to back those up.

Regarding my question, it would have been about the lack of action with regards to this and Mimi's general poor public attitude, so there's no point trying in the first place

Incompetence and lack of touch seems to be the rule in Asian (and most other) companies, any other would've fired that PR company and hired another or even just have their own employees do it. Are they stuck with CKC because they were bought by that mobile game publisher or something? Because they really have no other excuse.
Either way, PM should really stop acting like they are a indie anymore, they may not be a AAA or even a single A company, but they're still famous enough they should start trying to be clean.
And, yeah, there's no good way to frame that, lol. But still, I feel like it would be a good idea to ask them why they chose to take responsibility for something they didn't do, if enough people say it, maybe they would change. Or is that too optimistic?
For the other question, are you talking about Mili? If so, then it's probably fame getting to her head, it's generic pop star behaviour. Or have I confused something again?

 

[evrae]

Incompetence and lack of touch seems to be the rule in Asian (and most other) companies, any other would've fired that PR company and hired another or even just have their own employees do it. Are they stuck with CKC because they were bought by that mobile game publisher or something? Because they really have no other excuse.
Either way, PM should really stop acting like they are a indie anymore, they may not be a AAA or even a single A company, but they're still famous enough they should start trying to be clean.
And, yeah, there's no good way to frame that, lol. But still, I feel like it would be a good idea to ask them why they chose to take responsibility for something they didn't do, if enough people say it, maybe they would change. Or is that too optimistic?
For the other question, are you talking about Mili? If so, then it's probably fame getting to her head, it's generic pop star behaviour. Or have I confused something again?

CKC are the EN translation team, and I get the feeling that the rates they ask for are much less than what you'd normally see in translation services (I know a friend involved in translation, the rates are surprisingly expensive especially if not done in-house and given to a contractor/freelancer).
Since PM don't speak english, CKC have also effectively put themselves as the face for EN communication (they even have a Discord which is used extensively to discuss PM games) so it's likely they took this as a chance to paint themselves as doing no wrong. When you saw the Yi Sang shit, it was Reddit and such that were blaming PM (even though they weren't the ones to steal a translation), whereas if you looked elsewhere like /vst/, they rightfully call the translator a faggot, but also CKC for being lazy shits.
Outside of say, Reddit, and other similar places, CKC are pretty heavily disliked, first with some iffy translation choices in their LC translation, and then stuff like NEET's freakouts during the 9/11 update and ending updates (where NEET mentioned how he wanted to kill the Director and such). This even turned up on Steam, so they're aware of their fuckups, they just refuse to change.

Despite all this stupid shit that would normally cost jobs, like I said earlier it's very likely CKC remains probably because they're far cheaper than anyone else who would be available, or that's my theory on it, anyways.

I've also not heard about what's going on with Mili, but I assume it's down to getting popular.

 

[SnakeEye]

Despite all this stupid shit that would normally cost jobs, like I said earlier it's very likely CKC remains probably because they're far cheaper than anyone else who would be available, or that's
my theory on it, anyways.

Could you imagine their fuck-ups for Limbus? Most gacha games have numerous descriptions for items and characters that can go for many paragraphs, it would be almost impossible for a team as sub-par as CKC to not get something wrong, especially considering the rate these games get updated. I almost expect that the game will have a delay for the EN side just to give the translators a chance to do it right. But, it could probably be pretty funny, especially if more of those freakouts happened.