Proship discourse - People Who Think They’re Fandom Saviors For Being Open About Their Disgusting Fetishes (zoophile/pedophile/necrophilia/incest/rape/etc) and the people that oppose them.

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So I've been looking into Candycola, Vee's old webcomic she wrote with with convicted pedophile Ciel Star. It only lasted 13 pages before she made this update regarding an abusive relationship she had to escape.
Hey guys, long time no update.

If you were wondering about the lack of consistent art this last Summer as well as why I halted on updating my webcomic for a bit, there’s a bit of an explanation and I feel it’s finally safer for me to talk about it a bit.

I won’t get too into detail at this time due to the amount of stress that comes with recollecting the events of this last Summer (I cried on and off while writing this) but here’s an extremely TLDR; version of the story (trust me this only scratches the surface).

I’m going to put it under a read more for those who may not be interested or are sensitive to hearing about scary/traumatic situations, but I promise it ends on a more positive note.

So during the last year or so, I was trapped in an extremely emotionally abusive, controlling, and manipulative living situation with a now ex roommate of mine as well as my ex partner. I was basically coerced into a relationship that ended up being extremely abusive and was manipulated into letting my abusive ex partner live with me while I was already living with another abuser of mine, so was trapped living with two abusers.

Please note I WILL NOT use the word “abuser” or “abuse” lightly and would not dare use these terms for situations that do not warrant it (such as situations were both parties are equally hurting each other or it was just an unhealthy dynamic. In this case I had zero power and was basically forced into having to bend to whatever my abusers wanted).

Living with these two, I was consistently back and forth gaslighted/lied to, controlled, had my safety both emotionally and physically repetitively endangered, as well as was accused of causing problems whenever I tried to stand up for or defend myself.

After months upon months of putting up with being continually re-traumatized and having my diagnosed PTSD severely worsened in symptoms, I finally hit a breaking point and snapped which caused my abusers to respond to it by turning it around and accusing me of being dangerous and the one in the wrong because I finally lost the ability to hold myself together after many months of being traumatized.

My ex partner responded by fleeing the situation to avoid taking responsibility for their actions as well as the damage they caused, but not before dragging my abusive roommate into the situation even though I BEGGED them not to because I still had to finish paying out the lease at the place I lived at and needed my environment to be safe. They lied to me and promised they wouldn’t and agreed it was messed up that my abusive ex roommate was using our situation to fuel her own dislike towards me, but then promptly followed up by allowing her to bully me out of my own apartment I was paying rent to. My abusive ex roommate seemed to play it off as a safety precaution to justify it.

The situation left me emotionally and mentally destroyed because the betrayal trauma I was put through was some of the worst in my adult life. I not only had to deal with the emotional turmoil of being betrayed by someone I was manipulated and coerced into believing cared about me and wouldn’t leave me (their words they fed to me every day until I wholeheartedly believed it when I initially told them not to say those things) but I was forced into homelessness at 20 years old with no safety net or family or anything to go back to.

I had never been so petrified in my entire adult life.

I was homeless for the majority of the Summer because I was obligated to pay rent to a place I was not safe to return to (being around one of my abusers who now was open about their dislike for me kept triggering me into PTSD flashbacks and episodes). Since I had to pay rent to this place, and did not have the financial ability to pay double rent, I had no choice but to couch hop for the next months.

Thankfully I had some amazing friends who offered me their places during these months, and it was hardest thing I had been through. To keep my job because I needed to keep making income, I had to start driving anywhere from 2-4 hours a day through LA traffic every time I came into work (which could be 4-5 days a week) because of where I was staying. I had to do this while dealing with emotional turmoil and struggling to keep myself going.

My body started even physically breaking down and yet I didn’t have a choice to take a break because I needed to keep making income, I needed to get through this because I was so scared of what would happen if I lost my job and where I’d be then homeless with no money. There were days where in-between shifts at work I would be in the bathroom vomiting because I had hit my exhaustion limit and it was making me ill. I would have and still do have continual flashbacks which would cause me to lose hours every day, nightmares every single night about what had happened to me and I would and still do wake up in the middle of the night sobbing. What had happened to me shook me up in a way where the effects are very clearly long-term.

Finally when I felt like there was no way out, and body was about to physically give out on me anyways: I attempted my life.

If anyone had been around to see the suicide note I put up a while back, this story is some of the context behind that. I ended up in the hospital to be monitored and once the effects of the overdose had passed (luckily I was taken in before I could have been more destructive) I was admitted into a psych ward for a few days. This situation actually only traumatized me further because I was mistreated and the environment was not welcoming or supportive so I did everything in my power to get out as fast as possible.

When I was finally released, I had gone back to stay with a friend of mine who from the kindness of her heart let me stay on her couch for free for the large majority of the last few months as I figured out my next plan of action.

I won’t get into the specifics here either just because I feel awkward talking about my professional life tied with this context, but in short, I was allowed the opportunity to take a storyboard test for a cartoon which led to me getting to do storyboarding freelance on it which led to me getting to do storyboarding freelance on it with another freelance board artist. The last 5 weeks or so I got to help write an episode as well as board half of it.

It was horribly rough because the circumstances involved me basically doing this full-time gig while struggling to manage and keep another job that I was driving several hours to and from whenever I went, while homeless and living on couches, while dealing with my deteriorating physical and mental health because I was well past my body’s limits. On top of that I actually ended up also having to manage moving to a new place while I was freelancing and for almost a week straight I would sleep 3-4 hours a night just to ensure I had finished everything on time. I drove myself into the ground because I WANTED more than anything to do well, I needed to get myself out of this and at this point I had nothing to lose. I was also doing something I was really passionate about.

Despite all of that, the experience was absolutely amazing and worth every bit of the severe exhaustion points I drove myself into, regardless of whether anything further comes of it isn’t the point.

Getting to have involvement in storytelling on a cartoon I am really excited about at a studio I love was basically my dream and during the Summer where I thought I was going to probably die, I was given the opportunity to live it, even if it was just for a temporary gig.

The other day I turned in the work my board partner and I did and broke down crying as I left the studio because I was finally allowed to take a moment to look at how far I had come.

I started in a situation where I honest to god thought there was no way out and was in so much pain (still am over it) that I believed this was the end. However, thanks to the support and encouragement from others, I was able to end it on a note where I can feel proud of myself in a bittersweet way because I did it.

I survived the Summer.

In a way, I got to see just how much I could accomplish despite the mountain of obstacles in my way and it gives me hope that I will be okay, because if I could fight through this, I feel like I’ll be able to get through whatever else life throws at me in the future. I can finally breathe.

For the record, I would not consider myself stronger from this situation. It did not make me stronger, it only damaged me further in a way that I’ll have to deal with the repercussions for the rest of my life. What it did do, however, was show me where my limits were, and how much I can fight through when I’ve not only hit my limits but gone past them. I wish I was NEVER put in a situation where I had to figure out where my limits were. I would never wish this amount of hardship upon anyone.

To end this, I want to thank every single person who has supported me. From people who sent me supportive messages, to people who commissioned me and have been patient with me as I worked around all of this to complete them, to people who gave me a place to stay, to the people who sat with me through my breakdowns, who listened to me, who gave me a shoulder to cry on, to the people in the industry who allowed me to show them what I could do and have an amazing first freelance job experience in the professional animation world and solidify how much storytelling means to me and how much I want to continue to go down this path in my life.

Thank you, everyone. Thank you so much.
This is baseless speculation on my part, but could Ciel Star have been the ex-partner she refers to here? The comic died after this was posted.
 
Jane has come back to twitter under the handle @AngVondraPedo, and has doubled down on his accusations.
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Under a tumblr by the same name, he has released an extended version of his previous callout that goes into his entire online history as he tries to exonerate himself of I'm really only interested in the parts about Vee and Karli, so I'll attach the PDF in case anybody else wants to go through the rest of it.

The first new bit of information I noticed would seem to confirm my speculation that Vee and Ciel Star were in a relationship. Granted, with the username blacked out I still have no way of confirming that it's actually true.
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It's also alleged that Vee was able to get work after the Kyle Carozza incident, and that she wasn't really blacklisted. Again, without the username of Jane's contact there's no way to verify this.
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Jane also reveals the names of Vee''s grandparents.
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Ultimately, he still doesn't post any hard proof that Vee was grooming him. He does post a meme that she sent him about "artist couples", but it's hardly a smoking gun.
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The more I read into it, the more I take Vee and Karli's side. Jane is a creepy, delusional tranny with violent fantasies. I don't think Vee ever wanted to fuck him. It's more likely that, upon meeting two natal women who were nice to him, he became overly clingy to the point of being obsessive. Hilariously, he does include a screencap of Karli telling him that he was crossing boundries.
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The rest of it is a bunch of personal drama I don't care about. He does dedicate an entire section to us, which I found amusing.
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Jane is so fucking weird and desperate. He is making a whole ass diffamation campaign because someone didn't want to bang him, it's fucking pathetic. He doesn't have actual proof of Vee being inappropiate towards him at all (which is the thing this whole shitshow was about in the first place) so he is instead trying to prove she is lying about other things.

I can actually believe Vee wasn't actually blacklisted from animation (it always seemed ridiculous to me, it's not like the creator of fucking Magiswords has the power or influence to do that) and that she is alive and living off some relative, but that has more to do with Vee being a parasite and a lazy entitled person (I remember seeing stuff on this thread about her saying that cleaning is abusive and proof she was living in an apartment with a new partner) than me believing Jane.

The most interesting thing that can come out of this is Jane showing hard proof of Vee being alive, because there's a shit ton of people who actually believe all the story about being blacklisted and in debt. It could be Vee's ultimate downfall because a lot of these people are supposed to be her friends and they could finally realize she has been lying to them all along.
 
This tweet has a good point. Minors don't belong in proship spaces since most of them are 18+.
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Look at the responses
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I admit I feel bad for some of them, the ones that have trauma but they need serious help, while some others are pathetic tryhards. They could end up being porn addicts, being that at a young age isn't a good thing.
Look at this response and their carrd. I do agree some "anti" spaces have predators and they suck too. But that tweet has a point. Minors shouldn't be in proship spaces either.
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And they claim to be an adult.
 
Does anyone here remember when a proship owl house futa artist was called out for sexting minors a year ago? The thread was deleted, though I do have some screenshots reserved thanks to discord. It's kind of old news, but I think it's a prime example of how proshippers always like to say antis are secretly pedos, but then completely brush over cases where artists who draw problematic stuff turn out to be into actual minors too
I was trying to find that thread didn't know it got deleted can you share the screenshots?
 
Vee is back, people appear to actually be upset about her faking suicide for the 500th time and trying to come back like nothing happened, and aren't falling for the grift as usual.
I saw the whole thing and HOLY SHIT SHE HAS OFFICIALLY GONE INSANE, LIKE, JUST COMPLETELY LOST IT.

She was a rambly mess throuought the whole thing and it was almost incomprehensible. In short, she said she had a "spiritual awakening" after doing shrooms, met The Great Creator or some shit like that and discovered she is an alien. Her "mission" is to prepapre people for the "mass awakening". She also said she was abducted.

She has reently posted two videos with "alien dances", where she is not actually dancing, it's her alien family taking over her body. She moves a LOT in this videos for someone who is chronically ill and can barely walk without meds but I don't want to speculate too much because I don't know what disability she has exactly (I saw someone say it was related to her spine??)

She has actually been saying weird shit about wanting to fuck aliens for a while but I didn't think she woul take it this far

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Apparently she has also fully cut contact with all her friends so no one knows anything about her current state.

Also contrary to what I originally thought her friends haven't turned on her after discovering she lied because THEY FUCKING KNEW. Now they are saying they are saying how "they never actually confirmed Ang was dead, they just said she was sick" after calling people fucking murderers and making a whole bunch of posts saying how sad her death was.

Fortunately there is also people rightfully pissed off at her for taking their money and running (apparently in the new video she has a lot of memorabilia she didn't use to have). I have also seen people saying this isn't their fisrt time faking teir death but I can't find anything about that.

I've seen people complaining this could be dangerous but I don't think she has enough reach to actually become a cult leader lmao (i could see her trying tho, it would be hilarious)
 

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I wasn't expecting her to come back quite like this. I'm having issues with uploading her long explanation video (which I have yet to listen to), but here are local archives of two of her dancing videos in the meantime:

Planetary (channeled ALIEN dance)


*Jake the dog voice from the adventure time pilot*: "Check it out, I downloaded a little dance!" This is a dancing style that was channeled through my body as a gift by a dear alien/ET friend of mine that he learned on his home planet. Before this moment, I had never danced before, didn't think I could, and didn't ever try to. His race is known as the Asterians and they are an ancient ET race that resided in the Andromeda galaxy. From our perspective of space/time, they no longer exist, but he channeled through me and wanted to share their style of dancing on Earth as a way to bring their energy here, and continue that legacy. Asterians are a combination of plasma and light-bodied beings and their limbs are much more flow-y than ours, so that along with the fact that i'm chronically ill (and have no stamina lol), means this was a limited/modified version of their full dancing style. I hope one day I can be well enough to embody it more fully. This gift is very special and dear to me because it started the domino effect of receiving gifts from my other alien friends and family, and I hope you enjoy! ((If you aren't familiar with channeling, here's a definition: "Trance channeling has been defined as “the communication of information to or through a physically embodied human being from a source that is said to exist on some other level or dimension of reality than the physical as we know it, and that is not from the normal mind (or self) of the channel.”" It's basically like the universal telephone line/communication hub.))

You Are The Moon (channeled alien hand dance)


This was a “hand” dance from an alien who had a very deep blue and motherly energy that my brain kept translating was a Dutchess on her planet. Apparently this was one of her more humanoid forms and lifetimes so she could channel through me, but she is actually only one lifetime in a larger sub-collective within my soul that takes the form of a higher-dimensional, shapeshifting, seamstress, arachnid alien (a bit of a mouthful, I know). Over the last year of my awakening, this entity referred to themselves as “Múm” or “Mother” and would make appearances to me to guide and encourage me. Hope this makes sense! Because creation fractals infinitely, it can be a little difficult to explain what I mean here. She speaks of valuing the beauty in the delicacy of her craft: weaving timelines together and spinning dreams into reality. In this video, I was feeling very emotionally and physically unwell so was swaying to music to try to clear energy when she took over (hence the comment, “feeling cold again?”). I had no idea what was happening because I was out of it and you can really tell at around 0:45-0:50 seconds that my hands are moving on their own because with my blank stare, my mind was Not There making decisions. I was fascinated by what was happening, so finally I let go and gave in. Because my alien friends channel through me unexpectedly, there is no choreography or preplanning or even knowledge of what i’m going to do, what I might say, what song I’m going to move to, etc. everything unfolds in the moment unbeknownst to me. So at the lyrics “you will see your beauty” the way she revealed my face made me laugh because I was not anticipating that and realized she was playing with me and encouraging me. Anyways, I love her I’m really grateful for the fun little dance and message she shared with me! ❤️❤️❤️ What a beautiful gift!

I'd really like to see what Jane is saying about this, but unfortunately Nitter seems to be down (possibly for good this time). Since I don't want to make a twitter account, I won't be able to gather screencaps like I normally would. Some other brave Kiwi will have to step up.

Apparently she has also fully cut contact with all her friends so no one knows anything about her current state.
A page or so ago I figured out who she was living with and her possible address, that would be our only clue.
 
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It's the classic munchie favorite chronic fatigue syndrome.
I'd really like to see what Jane is saying about this, but unfortunately Nitter seems to be down (possibly for good this time). Since I don't want to make a twitter account, I won't be able to gather screencaps like I normally would. Some other brave Kiwi will have to step up.
They're using the situation for attention whoring and to desperately get people to forget their recent past (see their own thread for context, if you're unaware https://kiwifarms.net/threads/james...wtaindeww_-whowantsstancakes-doodladoo.65066/) and acting like 2020 is ancient history. I took some screenshots yesterday when I was discussing this situation with a friend, but they've deactivated their Twitter account now so I only have these and some screenshots that were posted on twitter/lolcow.farm (https://lolcow.farm/snow/res/1955417.html) by other people.
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And if you needed any more evidence that Jane is completely insane themselves:
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It's the classic munchie favorite chronic fatigue syndrome.

They're using the situation for attention whoring and to desperately get people to forget their recent past (see their own thread for context, if you're unaware https://kiwifarms.net/threads/james...wtaindeww_-whowantsstancakes-doodladoo.65066/) and acting like 2020 is ancient history. I took some screenshots yesterday when I was discussing this situation with a friend, but they've deactivated their Twitter account now so I only have these and some screenshots that were posted on twitter/lolcow.farm (https://lolcow.farm/snow/res/1955417.html) by other people.


And if you needed any more evidence that Jane is completely insane themselves:
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How the fuck does one get molested by a 5 year old? If anything, that claim makes me wonder if he'd been touching his sister and came up with that bullshit as a cope.

Also, it's clear as day from those screencaps that Jane really wants to fuck Vee. I had suspected as much before, but his obvious femdom fetish and all the stressing he does about he's a small bean compared to her cemented it for me. Jane wants to be the little boy.
 
Watching this clusterfuck that is Jane vs Vee makes me feel thankful I never considered going into animation, even if the industry in my country isn't nearly filled to the brim with this much tranny, suicide baiting bullshit. At least it seems that the normal cis folk targeted by Ang's troon army are fine.
 
Wow who would’ve thought it’s a bad idea to form a community solely composed of people who think sex with children is hot.
Or a community that enables suicide hoaxes, and even gifts those who pull off such stunts and shuns those who get rightfully skeptical,

I think Jane is a retarded AGP, and aquabiooms should seriously look into employment instead of being a deadbeat dyke with fake DID, but Vee's entire little cult is filled with such delusion. They just never accept the fact this woman is not trustworthy.

She faked the “degenerative disease” they describe (chronic fatigue and fibromyalgia) and it’s her fake alter Countess Boochie Flagrante who “died”.
 
Or a community that enables suicide hoaxes, and even gifts those who pull off such stunts and shuns those who get rightfully skeptical,

I think Jane is a retarded AGP, and aquabiooms should seriously look into employment instead of being a deadbeat dyke with fake DID, but Vee's entire little cult is filled with such delusion. They just never accept the fact this woman is not trustworthy.

She faked the “degenerative disease” they describe (chronic fatigue and fibromyalgia) and it’s her fake alter Countess Boochie Flagrante who “died”.
I was shocked to learn just now that Aquabiooms is pushing 30. Ever since I first heard of them in relation to the Vee drama I'd assumed they were a teenager because of their behavior.
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I was shocked to learn just now that Aquabiooms is pushing 30. Ever since I first heard of them in relation to the Vee drama I'd assumed they were a teenager because of their behavior.
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I like how a 20 year old radfem has more brains than a 27yo. The western decline in women...

For all the accusations they do with "Aang has molested me" ironically enough her partner of 10 years was only 23 years old and she was only 18 when they started dating so wouldn't that be considering grooming in her obscure definition??? Not defending Ang btw. Jane thinks 18-19yos are kids and Aqua sincerely agrees until it's inconvenient because she LOVES coddling AGPs...
 
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Watching Vee's "truth about me" video, I have mixed feelings. After the lunacy of her dance videos I expected full-on schizophrenia, but she comes off too self-aware and put together for that. She starts with 20 minutes of winging about "being forced into homelessness" (a personal favorite topic of hers), and sounds pretty normal. When she finally gets into the crazy stuff, she keeps laughing and pausing to try and collect her thoughts. She notes multiple times that she sounds like a lunatic before declaring herself to be both an alien and an angel.

I'm tempted to say that she's faking the whole thing, but I'm not sure. Maybe she's having a manic episode, but there's none of the paranoia or word salad you'd associate with a true schizo.
 
Watching Vee's "truth about me" video, I have mixed feelings. After the lunacy of her dance videos I expected full-on schizophrenia, but she comes off too self-aware and put together for that. She starts with 20 minutes of winging about "being forced into homelessness" (a personal favorite topic of hers), and sounds pretty normal. When she finally gets into the crazy stuff, she keeps laughing and pausing to try and collect her thoughts. She notes multiple times that she sounds like a lunatic before declaring herself to be both an alien and an angel.

I'm tempted to say that she's faking the whole thing, but I'm not sure. Maybe she's having a manic episode, but there's none of the paranoia or word salad you'd associate with a true schizo.
It’s a situation where literally nobody wins no matter what it turns out
 
Wait, did Sargon's ball-washer troon out and take too many Chinese research chems, trip rats and think they got abducted by ayy lmao's?! :story:
 
Of all the dance videos, this one is by far the funniest.

Watching her blankly stare at the camera while dodging the pidgeon pecking at her feet is something else.

I wonder if Kitchi is trying to get Ang to take her meds?
 
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