Proto-Woke Games Thread

[30+GameOvers]

"I mean small numbers, outliers, yes I'm fine with that," nice how you skip over this part, shows your intellectually dishonesty.

You seem to have autogynephilia, an adult man who wants to play as a hot female who wears mini skirts and fights monsters, doesn't sound mentally healthy to me. A man who wants to play as an alpha guy kicking arse, that's normal.

"If you don't agree with me, you're a tranny"

What a phenomenal defense. Little wonder why the only people who take this thread seriously are 4chan refugee synthcels who aren't taken seriously elsewhere

 

[Warai Otoko]

to play as a hot female

to play as an alpha guy

Why not both? Don't tell me you are one of those types who thinks listening to rock music makes you a satanist.

 

[Irredemable Retardation]

Warrior women are woke, e.g. JRPGs/CRPGs were full of them. Early days of feminism in games, and the denial of sex differences. Now you have games who take place in the middle ages or WW2, and the battlefields are full of female fighters, Assassin's Creed has them all over the place, it was even a woman who first stabbed Caesar (Origins), talking about historical revisionism.

It's interesting that even the anti-woke people seem to not like feminine women, they are fine with warrior/scientist women as long as they have big tits and look hot. *cough* autogynephilia *cough*
I mean small numbers, outliers, yes I'm fine with that, but the sheer number we see now in video games/entertainment, and even back then, and who totally don't fit in the setting, are simply ridiculous.

I think I'm way more against it now because of the feminized world we live in now, can see women in charge simply don't work, it's a catastrophe for entertainment, education, for first world countries in generallView attachment 7285583

You absolute tard really had to put links to wignat publications in a thread about VIDEO GAMES.
Instead of choosing the Occam's Razor that applies in this case (A sizeable amount of men like strong women) You post this drivel of a feminist conspiracy.
What is next? The reason men don't read as much is because they prefer other things, therefore pandering to them is unprofitable, or a feminist conspiracy in the education system to make sure men are unable to enjoy literature anymore?

 

[Lone MacReady II]

Fighting Nazis and the supernatural entities they summoned in Wolfenstein. Oh the wokeness. I'm feeling so subverted and finger wagged.

Even mecha-Hitler was correct. Enjoy your sheboon female CoDs and "niggers actually won WWI" dice games.

 

[Seafarer]

I’m not exactly sure if it’s “proto-woke” or just regular woke since it came out right around the time that modern wokeness became fully mainstream, but Bioshock: Infinite has a ton of subversive elements in it.

-Villain is evil white Christian badman.
-Villain essentially creates a white ethnostate, yet still puts darkies in society for some reason (really because the creator wanted to make Columbia a 1-1 allegory of the U.S. but with steampunk gizmos and such)
-Portrayal of white Protestant Christianity and ideals of American exceptionalism as creepy and cultish
-Unlike previous Bioshock villains like Andrew Ryan, the villain in Infinite isn’t particularly smart or exceptional and just mooched off the work of others (wonder what other (((characteristic))) sets this villain and Ryan apart?)
-Theme of mooching also applies to Columbia’s society itself, as they sing songs plagiarized from different eras and their technology is plagiarized from the works of Jews and Asians (Rapture). Allegory is clearly meant to be applied to American society and basically state that white people are mediocre and can only steal from PoC
-Cartoonishly evil capitalist boogeyman (Fink or whatever his name was)
-Black girlboss leader of communist revolutionary faction
-Game ends with the white male protagonist (and player insert) killing himself and his lineage so evil Christian badman doesn’t exist and get to oppress PoCs

Btw people point to the communist revolution faction being violent and “taking things too far” as a sign that the game is nuanced and critiques both the left and the right, but the game basically portrays the revolutionaries as only being violent because of how they’ve been treated (classic libtard excuse for left-wing/black violence) and the only way for the cycle of violence to be ended is for the white male gamer to literally kill themselves.

There was a really good video series that fully explained all the subversive elements within this game but unfortunately it’s been scrubbed.

 

[Irredemable Retardation]

Promoting subversive ideas like criminals are just misunderstood people who need some love, or that the cops are the real bad guys lefty cliche, or that living a life of crime pays off in the end (and is the easiest/best way to reach the top) .
This shouldn't be a surprise to anyone, GTA borrows heavily from 80s movies like Scarface which was directed by an unashamed Marxist and promotes the same type of degenerate garbage that the average GTA game does ( the big difference here is that at least in Scarface Tony deservedly dies in the end while in GTA Vice City Tommy is rewarded in the end by living the Dream despite all the terrible things he did throughout the game ).

Thanks for admitting that you either did not play or even watch the GTA games, and if you did, you are genuinely unable to comprehend what happens in their storylines. I hate to admit that the media literacy tards were not completely wrong with takes like this.

 

[SSj_Ness (Yiffed)]

I'm starting to get really annoyed with the whole anti woke thing because of all the autism.

This thread really brought out all these types:

Like I've already stated before this isn't a discussion about the actual quality of the games in question , it's about highlighting all the subversive woke messages inside them that most people never noticed back then.

I think it's less that people didn't notice and more that it was organic, so it was easier to ignore than widespread corporatized DEI propaganda.

Woke ≠ Left leaning


Retard

"AIDS ≠ HIV

Retard"

Do whatever you want. I'm not telling you to not enjoy playing video games. I'm just trying to explain to people that this idea that gaming was this non woke paradise until Anita and the SJWs came along and ruined everything is simply false. The term Proto-Woke was invented for a reason.

Gaming was quite non-woke overall, with rare exceptions. From the 70's-80's that shit was almost non-existent. In the 90's it was very rare, and the 00's was still uncommon but you could see it creeping up, especially towards the mid/late 00's.

10's is where shit hit the fan, and the last 10 years (especially the last 6-8 years) is where it went into overdrive. I'd say it peaked in 2024 specifically with Concord and Baldur's Gate 3 (GB3 illustrating the maximum threshold of tolerability, Concord showing what's too far even for braindead sheeple).

Why apply the aspect of "woke" for something to where the concept did not even exist in context of those releases?

The concept did exist, it just wasn't called woke at the time. We've been through this.

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This thread in question. And this comic was made in 2018.

Stonetoss missed the mark there, the reason the background looks like that is because the games DON'T look like that. Media shapes culture, and culture is reflected in media, this is why propaganda is dangerous.

We went from media mocking faggots in the 80's:

To the 90's & 00's normalizing faggots until faggot marriage was rammed through in the 2010's. It takes time but propaganda works.

That's why they're trying to normalize transgenderism now, and lo and behold, everyone is eating it up. "Who cares if it's Body Type instead of Gender in EVERY GAME NOW IN A CONCERTED EFFORT OF FUCKING SOCIAL ENGINEERING?"

Woke and anti-woke are such lame brain bug people that I'd embrace both of your genocides if we can go back to the chill era of who gives a fuck.

Back to an era that never existed? Gaming wasn't woke yet by film had been full of propaganda for decades by the time gaming even existed. You're pining for subtler propaganda by smarter propagandists, you want your sugar coated social Marxism back.

People with agendas always gave a fuck, it's just people like you who don't give a fuck who let them take their march march through the institutions unimpeded.

The "i jUsT wAnNa GriLl" mentality ensures that you won't be allowed to grill, at least not without bending the knee first and grilling your bug burgers in a rainbow apron.

A bunch of graffiti loving libtards trying to instigate a revolution against a supposedly evil and oppressive " Fascist " government ? If you don't think the game has Proto-Woke elements then I have a bridge to sell you .

I haven't played it, but I'm assuming you're wrong about that one. It DOES appeal to woke faggots a lot, but I'm not sure it has any objectionable concepts. I didn't play it because it controls like absolute SHIT, so tell me more.

This Woke V.S. chud shit pisses me off because it's just a distraction from actually important shit that is going on constantly. Wages are lower then ever before while the cost of living goes up and your sitting here fighting the good fight to remove niggers and whores from vidya.

You're too short-sighted to see how those things are interconnected, apparently, neither exists in a vacuum.

I can fight against woke stuff and also fight against Wage stagnation, Living costs, food prices and all sorts of other things. You can simultaneously fight Wokeness while also fighting other problems that affect us.

Yep, it's false dilemma bullshit, you can simultaneously acknowledge two problems.

ROM cartridges themselves are woke as fuck because a black guy was part of the team that developed them.

Source? Unlikely lol

You seem to have autogynephilia, an adult man who wants to play as a hot female who wears mini skirts and fights monsters, doesn't sound mentally healthy to me.

That's retarded, if you don't like Resident Evil 3 you don't sound mentally healthy to me.

No wonder the anti-wokies aren't taken seriously.

Of course women and feminized men won't take seriously a conversation about liberal propaganda, they're products of it.

 

[30+GameOvers]

Of course women and feminized men won't take seriously a conversation about liberal propaganda, they're products of it.

When both sides are retarded and don't play video games they bitch about, I don't see why anyone would take it seriously.

 

[Dysnomia]

All leaders and nations have an equal shot at winning the game, exemplifying the "woke", egalitarian mindset that all peoples and races are equal. The Zulu going to the moon, despite them still being in the Iron Age upon European contact? sure! The Maori creating megalopolises using feats of engineering that the British and Americans didn't develop until the 19th century? Why not!

Isn't that the game where Gandhi can nuke everyone to kingdom come?

Warrior women are woke, e.g. JRPGs/CRPGs were full of them. Early days of feminism in games, and the denial of sex differences. Now you have games who take place in the middle ages or WW2, and the battlefields are full of female fighters, Assassin's Creed has them all over the place, it was even a woman who first stabbed Caesar (Origins), talking about historical revisionism.

Historical accuracy is a different beast from fantasy games. If your game is based on medieval Europe or whatever in aesthetics only, like many RPGs are, then just having "generic sword guy" and "generic healer lady who does 1 point of physical damage" all the time is gonna get way boring. If someone wants to make a warrior woman with a huge axe let them have their fun.

In most JRPGs (at least the older ones) you are pretty much guaranteed to begin in some one horse town in the middle of nowhere with at least one parent dead. No phone. No lights. No motorcar. Just 16th century technology. It does not mean they are trying to be historically accurate. That's just the setting. In Phantasy Star 3 you're actually on a spaceship whose interior looks like a medieval world. And who is the strongest character? A woman named Sari. You're literally in space fighting robots and demons with swords and pointy sticks. It's not supposed to be realistic.

 

[Ughubughughughughughghlug]

One of the villains in the rebooted Wolfenstein series is hot as hell.

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Frau Engel, that's it.

At least she has those German Aryan features for the woke and anti-woke.

@The Last Stand sock found

 

[Irredemable Retardation]

"AIDS ≠ HIV

Retard"

The inability to define what is woke in the first place among the opponents when it's so simple. Woke is a triumphalist and aggressive form of modern leftwing or societally progressive propaganda without any sublety or care about it's impact in the material, actively seeking to spite a portion of the audience often (Examples: Dustborn, Kingdom Come Deliverance 2, Saints Row Reboot)
Games with left-wing messages are not necessarily woke because woke has specific traits rather than just leftwing messages. I wouldn't call games like most of the subjects in the Faux-retro indie games thread on the Stinkditch forum woke in spite of them definitively having messages.

 

[The Last Stand]

Source? Unlikely lol

Here you go. Jerry Lawson.

Video games were just a budding concept in the 70s, but Lawson would become the Chief Engineer of Fairchild’s Video Game division, starting with a clandestine project to port an Alpex game from the Intel 8080 to the Fairchild F8.

In this position, Lawson had a significant amount of freedom, and the partnership would lead to the Alpex video game cartridge idea to be licensed by Fairchild. History often cites Lawson as being the sole inventor of the cartridge, but he is more appropriately the person who lead the commercialization of a polished version of it.

, and the 00's was still uncommon but you could see it creeping up, especially towards the mid/late 00's.

Do you have any examples? Right now, your argument is flimsy at best.

 

[Randall Fragg]

And the pendulum swings from 'we need to get rid of these PROBELEMATIC video games that turn players into fascists' to 'we need to get rid of these WOKE video games that turn players into faggots.'
OP is a tiresome faggot.

 

[Agent Abe Caprine]

Source? Unlikely lol

Turns out Alpex Computer Corporation made interchangeable ROM cartridges before Fairchild. Fairchild(the company Jerry Lawson worked for) just made the first example of one safe enough for kids to use.

 

[SSj_Ness (Yiffed)]

When both sides are retarded and don't play video games they bitch about, I don't see why anyone would take it seriously.

"bOtH SiDeS" is such retarded, disingenuous bullshit, this is braindead dude.

The inability to define what is woke in the first place among the opponents when it's so simple. Woke is a triumphalist and aggressive form of modern leftwing or societally progressive propaganda without any sublety or care about it's impact in the material, actively seeking to spite a portion of the audience often (Examples: Dustborn, Kingdom Come Deliverance 2, Saints Row Reboot)
Games with left-wing messages are not necessarily woke because woke has specific traits rather than just leftwing messages. I wouldn't call games like most of the subjects in the Faux-retro indie games thread on the Stinkditch forum woke in spite of them definitively having messages.

It really is simple to define woke, even easier than that:

You could easily define it, Wikipedia does as "a pejorative for various leftist and progressive movements and ideologies", and Webster's as "politically liberal or progressive (as in matters of racial and social justice) especially in a way that is considered unreasonable or extreme". In the context of media, you can basically just consider it synonymous with agitprop.

Or, simply, libtard shit.

Here you go. Jerry Lawson.

I was being facetious.

Do you have any examples? Right now, your argument is flimsy at best.

An example of a game with elements we'd consider woke? Sure, idk why you doubt that but ok. Fallout 3 had several LGBT characters, normalizing it.

And no, I don't think every instance of such characters is automatically woke, it depends largely on inferred intent.

And the pendulum swings from 'we need to get rid of these PROBELEMATIC video games that turn players into fascists' to 'we need to get rid of these WOKE video games that turn players into faggots.'
OP is a tiresome faggot.

Good, just make sure it doesn't swing back.

And lmao games don't turn people into fascists, but they DO turn people fags (of the metaphorical variety at the very least, but they're trying to do it literally via gay propaganda).

Turns out Alpex Computer Corporation made interchangeable ROM cartridges before Fairchild. Fairchild(the company Jerry Lawson worked for) just made the first example of one safe enough for kids to use.

That's pretty interesting stuff.

 

[The Last Stand]

@The Last Stand sock found

I don't get it.

An example of a game with elements we'd consider woke? Sure, idk why you doubt that but ok. Fallout 3 had several LGBT characters, normalizing it.

And no, I don't think every instance of such characters is automatically woke, it depends largely on inferred intent.

Okay, what is the implied intent in Fallout 3 with having LGBT+ characters?

And lmao games don't turn people into fascists, but they DO turn people fags (of the metaphorical variety at the very least, but they're trying to do it literally via gay propaganda).

Like taunting a defeated opponent by repeatedly spamming the crouch animation under their corpse? That's gay if you think about it, "teabagging."

 

[30+GameOvers]

"bOtH SiDeS" is such retarded, disingenuous bullshit, this is braindead dude.

When both sides don't play games and bitch about shit they know nothing about, then yes both sides are retarded. These people are not welcome here anymore than the SJW are. Even if you're "based", you're still the same kind of retard that would feel more right at home on /pol/ than on /v/, altho these days it also gets a lot of politisperging from both sides.
In the late 90s and early 2000s, we had retarded christcucks crying about muh devil worship and muh violence in games and muh hot coffee. Now, we have soycucks crying about muh women and muh wokery in games, same shit different decade. Go shove your moral panic up your ass, nobody wants you around in the gaming sphere. At this point, I want Jack Thompson back, even he can formulate an argument better than most anti-wokies can.

 

[Final K]

People seem to not identify propaganda as long as they like it, it seems... Yes modern games are a result of the propaganda in previous games (and movies).
Anyway I find it interesting when the infrastructure is there just out of inertia but the devs are clearly not that into it.
YS VI The Ark of Napishtim is set up in a way that would lend itself to an obnoxious lib plot, the noble rehda, and the eresians that came to mess things up... and then, ah don't dwell on it too much go kill the bad guy, he wants to become a god.

 

[SSj_Ness (Yiffed)]

Okay, what is the implied intent in Fallout 3 with having LGBT+ characters?

I literally just told you.

Like taunting a defeated opponent by repeatedly spamming the crouch animation under their corpse? That's gay if you think about it, "teabagging."

It technically is in the strictest sense

When both sides don't play games and bitch about shit they know nothing about, then yes both sides are retarded.

Where are you getting that from? The only games the non-woke side doesn't play is garbage like Assassin's Creed Shadows, is that what you're bitching about? We don't platinum the latest Ubislop before criticizing it? We play real games, not crap. That doesn't discredit us.

These people are not welcome here anymore than the SJW are. Even if you're "based", you're still the same kind of retard that would feel more right at home on /pol/ than on /v/, altho these days it also gets a lot of politisperging from both sides.

They're definitely welcome here as far as I'm concerned, SJWs too if only to have people to mock and debate.

In the late 90s and early 2000s, we had retarded christcucks crying about muh devil worship and muh violence in games and muh hot coffee.

Jesus is King.

Now, we have soycucks crying about muh women and muh wokery in games, same shit different decade.

No, totally different shit. We had people with legitimate moral concerns then, now we have degenerates trying to troon out kids and instill White guilt in everyone. Fuck you for even pretending there's a similarity.

Go shove your moral panic up your ass, nobody wants you around in the gaming sphere. At this point, I want Jack Thompson back, even he can formulate an argument better than most anti-wokies can.

Eat shit faggot, we are the gaming sphere, you centrist cucks and libtards can do a flip. I might want Jack Thompson back too, I'm starting to think he was right.

 

[The Last Stand]

At this point, I want Jack Thompson back, even he can formulate an argument better than most anti-wokies can.

I miss Jack Thompson. His behavior about violence in video games were so egregious because he could not conduct himself properly. Best of all, people did not take him seriously, the gaming industry kept on going. I wish people reacted to the woke crusades as they did with Jack Thompson.

And lmao games don't turn people into fascists, but they DO turn people fags (of the metaphorical variety at the very least, but they're trying to do it literally via gay propaganda).

Curious, how did you feel about Jack Thompson's crusade with video games?