Pyrocynical / Niall Comas - Inflation / Furshit / Weird Allegations

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Cactus Wings said:
Literally the most direct way to avoid backlash. It's like saying "here's his address but don't tell him I sent you cause I didn't". It's bullshit corporate lingo to be legally safe.

I'd take this at face value. As I've mentioned several times before; people fail to realize what a pent-up kissless incel goes through once they're finally given attention, romantically even, by someone else, regardless of gender. Especially given the time frame and context of where this was likely to be; YouTube commentator/funny meme-haha Gmod/TF2/whatever game was popular with furries at the time.

I've met upwards of hundreds of white suburban guys age 14-24 within, well, also the fatfur community, and it's blindingly obvious that it's an act to keep the false hope going, that they're sexually desired and have "just not met the right person yet", because a bunch of ugly, balding guys such as themselves are hitting on them. Then they grow up and realize that it is indeed just an at-home sexual fantasy, and have no desire to meet up and fuck a guy in the ass in a scummy convention hotel.

Pyro seems self-aware enough to have hit this stage. Rub one out wanting to be farted and shat on til he grows 10 times the size. The fact he straight up says he's not gay is something most furrie wouldn't even dare, because it'd put off their flirty friends who themselves don't want to face such a reality. Him saying "I'm not gay" is either a means for him to cut ties with the groomed fatfurs he jerks off to, or having the audacity to say what everyone else already knows but don't want to admit.

The crossdressing shit however is a bit of a grey zone I'll admit. But at this point, who hasn't fucked around with sissy shit "ironically"? Especially if he hangs around gay furries (with no intention to bang them), I can see it possible that he kind of picked up on femboy shit like dresses and make-up. And hell, men have no ways to compensate for bad genetics the way women do. You can grow a beard or wear glasses, that's it. I'm all for normalizing make-up, but I don't think a fat brit is the frontrunner in that regard.

I mean, C9 Sneaky makes more money than all of us from his crossdressing Patreon, and he's just a femininely-framed man. He's got a girlfriend, who btw is a make-up professional and does everything about his cosplay. He's literally just the model for her work, and somehow people pass that off as Sneaky being some crossdressing goddess. Not really sure what Pyro is trying to achieve by his sissy shit but I mean, whatever, really. He's fostered a community that'll mock him about it but not to a gay-bashing level. I wouldn't use this as a gotcha-card in trying to out him as a faggot. Unironically, at this point the internet has warped in such a manner that a dude wearing make-up isn't much of a red flag at all.

Even more ironic is me defending this fat fuck when he and his fans embody the "toxic banter" personality I fucking loathe.
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I'm pretty sure Hyojin AKA Squizxy was Niall's girlfriend at the time. I doubt he was a kissless virgin when talking to Ivory and I really doubt that anyone can just go gay out of desperation. He's bisexual at the very least, he doesn't have to pretend otherwise as I doubt his fans would've cared, they most certainly don't care enough about his degenerate fetishes and irresponsible behavior assuming he somehow really didn't know Ivory was a minor.
 
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Even if Pyro did know his age, it shouldn't fucking matter. It shouldn't have been HIS responsibility alone just because he happened to be 19. He was still a fucking teenager just like Ivory was also a teenager. If it is wrong to talk fantasies to 15 year old because they are not mentally mature, then it's wrong for a 24 year old to be sexual with a 19 year old because they will also be more mentally immature than the older one. This whole thing is based on a TECHNICALITY. You don't suddenly become a mature adult when you reach 18, you are still an immature TEENAGER. So why is it okay for Ivory to do something stupid at a teenager, but completely wrong for a 19 year old to do something immature when he was also a teenager? What I am saying is that we have to DIFFERENT STANDARDS for people on a narrow and arbitrary technicality.
 
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Pyro simps continue to be dumb:
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Their primary arguments seem to be that "Pyro is just a creepy weirdo and did nothing wrong" when he openly admitted to knowing Ivory was a minor at 16, and guess what for all intents and purposes the age of consent is consumed to be 18 online. "Pyro is more famous then Tom/Ivory/Tommy ect." This if anything makes Pyro look worse as he can just bury any criticism. "Tom's document is false and full of lies" Pyro confirmed that all the screens in Tom's document are true which means that Ivory was open about being 15 to people around Pyro. Sorry but going "Ida would have no reason to tell me I was sexualizing a minor" is not going to cut it either A). Pyro is lying or B). Pyro's friends never told him to enable his sex addiction.

Do I think every critic of Pyro is truthful? No I think Tommy jumped the gun with false info like he usually does. However Tom posted true screenshots in his document and even said in his video "Pyro may not have known Ivory's age its just highly unlikely". Pyro did not prove anything nor debunk any screenshot but the flight ticket one (the fake ID screenshot still remains unexplained though). Do I think Pyro should be arrested/canaclled/banned? No, I just want Pyro to truthful apologize in a way where he doesn't try to downplay anything. I can't buy that Pyro is truly sorry when spends his response saying shit like "It was just rp and porn sharing, I'm straight, Tom lied, Ivory lied, I have proof I didn't know Ivory was underaged". I also want Pyro's fans to stop spinning the narrative as "Pyro is just weird ad did nothing wrong Tom debunked". I do not want this to buried because Pyro is famous, or because sending porn to minors is considering normal in these fucked up communities.
 
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Garlic said:
Even if Pyro did know his age, it shouldn't fucking matter. It shouldn't have been HIS responsibility alone just because he happened to be 19. He was still a fucking teenager just like Ivory was also a teenager. If it is wrong to talk fantasies to 15 year old because they are not mentally mature, then it's wrong for a 24 year old to be sexual with a 19 year old because they will also be more mentally immature than the older one. This whole thing is based on a TECHNICALITY. You don't suddenly become a mature adult when you reach 18, you are still an immature TEENAGER. So why is it okay for Ivory to do something stupid at a teenager, but completely wrong for a 19 year old to do something immature when he was also a teenager? What I am saying is that we have to DIFFERENT STANDARDS for people on a narrow and arbitrary technicality.
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Kids are retarded is the issue, we should protect them from predators online and offline. What's your point regarding Pyro's age? 18 seems a fair cutoff to define adulthood and the maturity gap between a 15 year old and an 18 year old is much bigger than 24 and 19.
 
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Cringer of troons said:
How long until Turkey Tom responds to Pyro's video? He's been quiet on twitter for 2 days now.
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Lord knows the smart play would be to shut up so the debate dies. I doubt at this point there are many people left who simultaneously deeply care about the subject and also are open to changing their conclusion on the subject. Further videos, barring any substantive new evidence, are just kindling for this dumbass fire

So given that the right thing to do would be to let it go, I expect a reply before the end of the weekend.
 
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When Pyro brings up the TikTok videos he completely skips over the allegations that he kept pushing for more and more extreme fat fetish art from the underage artist. He instead acts like it was just one drawing and everyone's wrongly jumping to conclusions. Awfully convenient that he left out the first video where Sulkaeda perfectly describes his fetishes despite them not being public knowledge at all at the time and the second video which had the screencaps of the artist saying Pyro demanded it from them. He just used the third video that paints him in the best light possible.

And what kind of retarded logic was he pulling to claim Ida never had a reason to tell him about Ivory's age? Ida and Pyro have been friends since at least the summer of 2016 (if her uploading fetish art she made for him around that time is anything to go off of). She was around when Pyro was dealing with Keemstar trying to frame him as a pedophile with the 15 year old Frenchie story. Why wouldn't she tell a friend he was walking into yet another scandal with a 15 year old?
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How long until Turkey Tom responds to Pyro's video? He's been quiet on twitter for 2 days now.
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It's hard to say given the time of year. COVID may be keeping us all at home but Christmas is Christmas. I was actually surprised Pyro got his response out before the holidays.
 
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As of now, I don't think pyro is a groomer or pedophile, though I do think he fucked up. At the very least he was an absolute degenerate, autistic retard who had no filter as to whether or not he should engage with his degeneracy due to being so obsessed with it, even if it meant roleplaying with mere teenagers about inflating furries with fat via farting into their mouth. I suspect pyro learned to think this behavior was ok through doing this with adults when he was a teenager. For some reason I enjoy his autistic videos, though, so maybe I'm just coping.
 
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As of now, I don't think pyro is a groomer or pedophile, though I do think he fucked up. At the very least he was an absolute degenerate, autistic retard who had no filter as to whether or not he should engage with his degeneracy due to being so obsessed with it
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Isn't that the general consensus with the whole situation? There isn't enough evidence to really call Pyro a groomer and Pedophile is kinda pushing it. Right now he's just a moron who can't fully admit he fucked up.
 
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Ill be honest, The fact that keemstar is bringing this [French girl thing] back up out of spite turns me off alot.

i imagine him fucking up with the info and shiting out something that is either debunked, faked, extremely circumstantial, or something thats from an unreliable source.

This is "15, i mean 14, i hear she was 13" Keem were talking about here. And i imagine hes going to give it to tom aswell, incase tom decides to try and double down to defend his his oddly worded document
 
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Ill be honest, The fact that keemstar is bringing this [French girl thing] back up out of spite turns me off alot.

i imagine him fucking up with the info and shiting out something that is either debunked, faked, extremely circumstantial, or something thats from an unreliable source.

This is "15, i mean 14, i hear she was 13" Keem were talking about here. And i imagine hes going to give it to tom aswell, incase tom decides to try and double down to defend his his oddly worded document
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IIRC The 15-year-old french girl situation was a real one(in which pyro said he'd wait until the girl was 16 to sext her), gnome just fucked it up and allowed pyro to lie about it in his yt apology.
 
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To be honest, given that at least so far people seem to be simply accepting Niall's explanation at face value, I have no idea how this will progress. I kind of assumed (given situations like MiniLad) that quite a few people would still find it unacceptable that he remains on the platform since I'd argue that both seem like individuals who fucked up (maybe not pedophiles, but arguably predatory) and regret their decision. And yeah, the situations are different, but both seem to have fucked up early on and (hopefully) wanted desperately to move past it. Maybe I'm being overly niave though, I'll admit I want to believe most of these people aren't legitimate potential child molesters, because if they were that is a fuck ton too many.

What's kind of annoying I guess is that I think this has more to do with the fact it's Pyrocynical and not the situation itself as much. If the exact same senareo played out with another random YouTuber, I feel the same people coming to Niall's defence would be meming the shit out of this hypothetical other. I mean I get it, you like the guy and his content, and as I said before I genuinely don't think Niall is a pedo, but it feel hypocritical for so many to just move on like "oh, it was all a meme, lol".
 
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IIRC The 15-year-old french girl situation was a real one(in which pyro said he'd wait until the girl was 16 to sext her), gnome just fucked it up and allowed pyro to lie about it in his yt apology.
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Thing is, theirs no definitive proof that pyro was waiting to "sext" this person

nor any definitive proof there were any sexual messages exchanged prior.

so unless Tom or cumstar has CONCRETE proof of that, i see this going absolutely nowhere.
 
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