Questions for the female autists here - Sneed

[fist_of_khonshu]

Do any of you ever feel like your autism benefits you in a certain way?

No. Honestly. I don't think so. I was always and still am treated as dumb or slow because of it. I actively still hide the fact that I'm autistic from people I know because I don't want to be treated like I'm slow and a moron. I feel like it actively detriments me. Often can't focus on school or work, just the current thing I'm obsessed with or that my clothes feel weird, the air feels gross on my skin, etc etc. I can never tell when people make fun of me or genuinely like me.
I guess the only "benefit" I get from it is extra accommodations in my votech classes. Which is essentially just: "you can have a 5 minuet break in an exam then get back to it"

 

[NoReturn]

Opinions on Elon?

Can you relate to him or does he make you cringe?

It can be both. Sometimes the people you relate to most are the ones you want to bully most, both because you want them to be better, because you remember being that way and cringe, or because you actually intimately understand why they're doing something but you also know they're doing something wrong.
To relate this to Elon specifically, @Super Guido nailed it with:

Him being filthy stinking rich and autistic makes him act like a huge dipshit.

Being rich and autistic meant he had no peers to correct his behavior, no one to push him in the correct direction, and all the bad things autism drives you to do were allowed to not only grow and fester, but now he also genuinely thinks of himself as super cool and smart and great.
I was at my worst in my life when I was enabled. Elon has been enabled his whole life and he has access to almost infinite capital. It's horrifying when you think about it too long.

 

[Catboi]

Do any of you ever feel like your autism benefits you in a certain way?

Literally all it does is make me NLOG because I can only relate to men and extremely autistic women who like masculine hobbies.

 

[𖦹Junkpop𖦹]

What's your take on "self diagnosed autists"?

I can understand where they are coming from. Female and male autism has been proven to be different from each other. Women on the spectrum can seem more normal to society, and they only did extensive studies on the signs in males and how it affects them. Think the drooling helmet wearing types. It's getting better, though, I was one of the rarer cases that got diagnosed early. So I feel like I can't talk all that much shit when it comes to self diagnosing. Just don't be obnoxious about it.

Do you feel bad for any of the cows with autism or do you just feel schadenfreude?

I do sometimes. Autism can make developing self-awareness hard sometimes impossible, depending on where someone falls on the spectrum. Bullying during childhood might help, but it often backfires, making things worse. Unrestricted internet access and a lack of positive role models also contribute. Some parents give up entirely, not teaching their autistic child because they believe “they’re retarded and will never improve.” Others avoid necessary services due to stigma or personal biases (Chris Chan). Terrible people immature or mentally ill having kids. Neurotypical kids avoiding them, screwing with their ability to learn social norms. And we can’t forget the high rates of abuse and sexual molestation autists face. It’s a mixing pot of pure liquid shit.

I look back on things I did and have a hard time accepting the fact that I can never change it.

Neurotypicals have the ability to develop a solid sense of self awareness and rise above the circumstances that were outside of their control. For an autist it can be harder especially if your low functioning or have no support system. Not an excuse to rape your dementia ridden mother though.

Opinions on Elon?

Can you relate to him or does he make you cringe?

I hope his ketamine overdose is very painful for him.

 

[failed mist]

Opinions on Elon?

Can you relate to him or does he make you cringe?

Elon is the fakest most self-diagnosed autist out there. He’s just mad that only his asskissers laugh at his jokes while everyone else cringes, and he blames it on autism.

 

[𖦹Junkpop𖦹]

He’s just mad that only his asskissers laugh at his jokes while everyone else cringes, and he blames it on autism.

In a better timeline he would've been Rosemary kennedy'ed and forgotten.

 

[Catboi]

Took a medical break because of how utterly bad my physical health takned due to bullying at work (complained about it before, managment pulled a "both sides are bad" after I snapped and was rude after months of shit and the new manager openly doesn't like disabled employees but disguises it in corpospeak when she's being recorded) and got a phone call from the government about my EI. Turns out the manager is telling everyone I quit and reported me as just having quit.

Literal fucking bitch and I just told the government workers to pull my EI application but to emphasize in the notes that the manager lied about it.

I'm so fucking tired of this! I just want a job where I'm left alone.

 

[Fishcat]

What problems do women with it face that guys (usually) don't?

What's your take on "self diagnosed autists"?

The female autism scene is niche and what exists is extremely pozzed, not just with the usual genderspecial invasion in all women's spaces but even with the actual real women, because they are either not autistic and just larping, or have a phenotype that fits remarkably well into society for an autist. They usually discuss stuff like political sperging ("Trump will literally genocide the autists, you guys!! Good thing I'm self-dx!") or giggling over frivolous things like "hehe I'm so quirky i just had chocolate milk i love having the 'tism!" instead of practical topics on improving life with symptoms. You'll notice that most of them have normal social circles and careers and were late-diagnosed if diagnosed at all. I don't deny that there are factors which inhibit diagnosis for women but it's all they talk about as if it's a given and it's alienating if you were diagnosed in childhood and struggle to not get clocked.

Often they have special interests which are socially acceptable for women, like makeup, female-targeted tv shows, arts and crafts, left-wing social justice, etc., and they claim to be hyperempathetic/sensitive instead of having difficulty understanding emotions. If you imagine a tumblr fandom girl, she's not really the paragon of a normie, but it's a recognizably female interest and community.

I know many men around here may not agree with this but in real life outside of online circles consisting of maladjusted loners, it is very stigmatized to be a female autist, especially if you don't have the aforementioned "feminine" phenotype and present somewhat similarly to a stereotypical male autist who likes stuff like video games or math and doesn't get the first thing about female social dynamics. It is the experience of feeling like and being treated like a troon who lacks some elusive fundamental understanding of womanhood, while actually being female.

Men and women usually don't speak the same, right? Interests aside, there are inflections and ways of approaching topics that differ. Normie women find it unsettling when a woman does not mirror her way of speaking or relating to others, they will perceive a woman who speaks directly and unemotionally as rude or suspicious. Men may be easier to talk to, but men will forever treat you as a woman (i.e., potential date or person he can't be close friends with because he already has a lady). You do not really have an in-group because the number of women that fit this description of autist are either exceedingly rare or maybe I'm too retarded to find them.

Also, women and girls in general are more vulnerable to abuse, and any disability or difficulty in understanding people is just going to increase that risk.

I will say however, as many downsides as there are, I will always be thankful to be in a position to notice all the dumb psyops that women are inundated with and to not have fomo about it. It is grim seeing how many women are addicted to Instagram or who feel pressure to comply with a million asinine made-up beauty standards corpo-backed humiliation ritual consoomer trends or other dumb stuff like that. And I enjoy deriving happiness from my own idiosyncratic set of retarded fixations

 

[Catboi]

I will say however, as many downsides as there are, I will always be thankful to be in a position to notice all the dumb psyops that women are inundated with and to not have fomo about it. It is grim seeing how many women are addicted to Instagram or who feel pressure to comply with a million asinine made-up beauty standards corpo-backed humiliation ritual consoomer trends or other dumb stuff like that. And I enjoy deriving happiness from my own idiosyncratic set of retarded fixations

I literally feel like I'm going insane when it comes to this. I don't understand how women fall for peer pressure from total strangers. Everytime I see something from a normal woman I feel like some malebrained retard.

 

[2mm and 99 others]

Everytime I see something from a normal woman I feel like some malebrained retard.

In some other thread there was a conclusion, that what is understood as (stereo)typically male behaviour or thinking, is mostly just an autism spectrum disorder, and those are much more present in men. While in girls are slight autism traits enough to make one feel alienated and ''male-brained'', it's not bad enough for being oficially recognized, because it's still considered to be somewhere around male baseline aka normal, not spergy enough.
Edit, what I wanted to say, is that a slightly spergy girl has a hard time finding like-minded female friends, because there is just not many of them, not enough to move the boundaries of girl ''normal''.

 

[Chromeo]

Edit, what I wanted to say, is that a slightly spergy girl has a hard time finding like-minded female friends, because there is just not many of them, not enough to move the boundaries of girl ''normal''.

It's so hard when your autism makes you more "masculine," not following the senseless gender roles and avoiding the textures/rituals of performing femininity, and everyone acts like you're this failure of a woman because you're autistic. It makes bonding with normies so much more difficult because they all want to do hair and makeup and girly things that make you want to peel your own skin off.
Then you get called a pick me online for saying you're "not like other girls," or groomers jump down your throat insisting you're not really a girl at all. No matter where you go, you can't win!

 

[Fishcat]

It's so hard when your autism makes you more "masculine," not following the senseless gender roles and avoiding the textures/rituals of performing femininity, and everyone acts like you're this failure of a woman because you're autistic. It makes bonding with normies so much more difficult because they all want to do hair and makeup and girly things that make you want to peel your own skin off.

It was kind of a mind blow to learn throughout my late teens/early 20s that many women do hairstyling, hair removal, nails, makeup, etc. on a regular basis. I always thought of those as weird larp-y costume-y things you do once in a blue moon as a novelty, not everyday essentials. It isn't as if I don't care about looking nice and being hygienic, just that that sort of thing simply didn't cross my radar. I mean, the average man who cares about being presentable and clean doesn't stop to consider "should I shave my legs and paint my toes" at all, does having a uterus magically make it intrinsic knowledge? It still seems unbelievable because of the sheer time, energy, and $$$ involved.

I was a very paranoid child because I wasn't just refusing to follow gender norms, I was pretty much not even tuned into the concept. It would legitimately freak me out that 100% of the girls I knew magically agreed with each other in opposition to me that painting nails and braiding hair were awesome while roughhousing and video games were icky, as if they had secret meetings behind my back to unanimously decide to disagree with me on everything. I found it extremely uncanny and really struggled to find a logical reasoning for it.

It isn't so odd if you see a bald person, even if you aren't one. But if you went into a crowd and everyone was bald, you'd probably assume that there was some bald guy meetup event planned and you just didn't hear about it, right? But then everyone claims that ostensibly all people are naturally bald, they've actually all been wearing wigs the whole time, you seriously didn't know? That's how I've always felt growing up.

 

[Safir]

It isn't so odd if you see a bald person, even if you aren't one. But if you went into a crowd and everyone was bald, you'd probably assume that there was some bald guy meetup event planned and you just didn't hear about it, right? But then everyone claims that ostensibly all people are naturally bald, they've actually all been wearing wigs the whole time, you seriously didn't know? That's how I've always felt growing up.

This is me vs makeup, and also me vs fucking.
(Disclaimer: I am face blind and I like trains.)

A a teenager, if there was a zit on my face, I'd try to disguise the wound with a zinc stick and then powder over it. These days I'd just glue it with bakelite or out a bandaid with ointment on it if it's really nasty. I'd only consider plaster if it was something meant to be long-term where they don't allow submitting one's own photos, like a library pass or a foreign passport. Looking back, the stick+powder are just absurd, why'd I do this shit to go to school? I don't usually go around noticing it, but sometimes a woman has particularly garish-ridiculous makeup or long nails that make her apparently unable to wipe her ass, and I'm like, what the fuck, all these people paint their faces, it's a ridiculous psyop, it looks as stupid as if it were on a monkey.

And I don't normally think about normies fucking (not even when I read about lolcows fucking or see gross shit IRL) (I'd neck myself if I had intrusive thoughts this gross), but questions on fucking appear in medical questionnaires sometimes: "sex life since ___ years old, sex partner: stable, in a registered / unregistered marriage", "contraception: barrier / hormonal / intrauterine spiral / none"... creeps me out, it's like most "people" are only pretending to be human.

 

[NoReturn]

It was kind of a mind blow to learn throughout my late teens/early 20s that many women do hairstyling, hair removal, nails, makeup, etc. on a regular basis. I always thought of those as weird larp-y costume-y things you do once in a blue moon as a novelty, not everyday essentials. It isn't as if I don't care about looking nice and being hygienic, just that that sort of thing simply didn't cross my radar. I mean, the average man who cares about being presentable and clean doesn't stop to consider "should I shave my legs and paint my toes" at all, does having a uterus magically make it intrinsic knowledge? It still seems unbelievable because of the sheer time, energy, and $$$ involved.

Dude, same.
On this topic, maybe it's because I'm a sensory turbosperg, but when I see people who look like this and say they have autism, I get confused.

The SMELL! The amount of time! The discomfort of sitting in the chair and having people touch you! The horrible salon music! The other people's conversations! THE SMELL! The sitting doing nothing while the dye sets! The hours and hours of being trapped! HOW? How can you stand it!?

Ironically, if I see bad dye jobs, I 'm more likely to believe them. It makes me think "Oh you wanted to look like an anime character but now you don't want to put yourself through the process of getting it re-done."

 

[Fishcat]

Ironically, if I see bad dye jobs, I 'm more likely to believe them. It makes me think "Oh you wanted to look like an anime character but now you don't want to put yourself through the process of getting it re-done."

lol, this just reminded me of when I dyed my hair one singular time as a teenager and didn't really know that you're supposed to worry about refreshing it over and over. I refused to cut it off as it grew out because I wanted to save the colored part that I felt like I had gone through an arduous task to earn, so my hair also got so long that it was viewed as strange even for a girl. In retrospect people probably thought it looked dumb instead of awesome two-toned but I was happy with it so who cares

 

[2mm and 99 others]

Dude, same.
On this topic, maybe it's because I'm a sensory turbosperg, but when I see people who look like this and say they have autism, I get confused.
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The SMELL! The amount of time! The discomfort of sitting in the chair and having people touch you! The horrible salon music! The other people's conversations! THE SMELL! The sitting doing nothing while the dye sets! The hours and hours of being trapped! HOW? How can you stand it!?

Ironically, if I see bad dye jobs, I 'm more likely to believe them. It makes me think "Oh you wanted to look like an anime character but now you don't want to put yourself through the process of getting it re-done."

I take sensory issues as a thing that wildly varies from one autist to another.
Like, almost every damn spergy tranny has dangerhair, tattoos, all the surgeries, many are into BDSM....and that feels ok for them, as long as they have it done by someone else.
Ever seen a cow-tier sperg performing personal hygiene? It looked like they hate their hair and teeth and actually don't want them, and that's why many of them end up with gollum-like hair. If they handled straight razors the way they use combs and toothbrushes, they'd cut up their faces and then slit the throat, all by accident and unwillingness to give it the time (that's why many can't use them).

 

[glass_houses]

I take sensory issues as a thing that wildly varies from one autist to another.
Like, almost every damn spergy tranny has dangerhair, tattoos, all the surgeries, many are into BDSM....and that feels ok for them, as long as they have it done by someone else.
Ever seen a cow-tier sperg performing personal hygiene? It looked like they hate their hair and teeth and actually don't want them, and that's why many of them end up with gollum-like hair. If they handled straight razors the way they use combs and toothbrushes, they'd cut up their faces and then slit the throat, all by accident and unwillingness to give it the time (that's why many can't use them).

I love showers and hate the feeling of going to bed sweaty and with my hair unwashed. When I get out of the shower, I feel so nice and relaxed that sometimes I end up taking a little nap. I've been told by multiple other autists that showers are a sensory nightmare and that if they never had to have one again they'd be happy. I can understand the sensory overload bit, but I can't understand why that's worse than being greasy, itchy, sweaty and smelly for days on end. Ten minutes of discomfort verses endless, steadily building ick. Very strange.

 

[Ruined by the Rain]

everyone

You have to clarify. It's just the females. You have more chance winning the lottery than get a shred of sympathy from a woman as an autist. Handsome male autists might get a chance but no matter how you look as an autist woman other females will descend upon you like you have personally shoot their dog and fuck their husband in your past life

 

[Chromeo]

You have to clarify. It's just the females. You have more chance winning the lottery than get a shred of sympathy from a woman as an autist. Handsome male autists might get a chance but no matter how you look as an autist woman other females will descend upon you like you have personally shoot their dog and fuck their husband in your past life

Men will absolutely give you shit too, even if they can't do it from the position of someone intimately familiar with the rituals. I don't want to PL every time a man said something cruel to me because I cut my head hair short or didn't shave my body hair, but they will absolutely lay into you too.

Normies of all stripes hate it when you don't appropriately perform the rituals of your gender because it reminds them that it's just that; a performance. When you sit around the lunch table and all the other women talk about how they could never stand to have their hair above their shoulders...and you have a pixie cut, it's not because they're that attached to long hair maintenance, it's because they don't want to imagine themselves without the social capital being an attractive woman gives them. They want their long hair...so they can indicate their status as someone who doesn't need to have short hair, as someone who can afford to take care of their long hair, someone who puts effort into their appearance, someone who plays the role they were assigned and does it well. It's probably not a conscious understanding of that, but that's what it is. When you show up with your pixie cut, you remind them that they could be ugly like you and have less social currency. Your hair tells them that you chose comfort and time/maintenance/money over playing their game, which demonstrates a willingness to be the weird one out and, maybe, confidence. It's a threat, telling them "I'm more confident than you and I'm more comfortable than you and I don't care about the things you care about," so some bitchy women will snipe back. They'll ice you out, or say hurtful things with/without thinking, because whether they know it or not they're already wounded and perceive you as the wounder.

And I used the example of being a woman with a pixie cut because I've been there personally, but I have to imagine there are other situations with the same thing playing out, across sexes and with different social transgressions.

 

[2mm and 99 others]

Oh c'mon, it's not like at least some users of this thread never shown some sympathy and/or friendship to some other sperg of either sex, sometimes much to our own detriment, cos they tend to completely estrange out of nowhere and such shit.

As for fucking the husband, some women think I do it in my present life. Once I ended up on a trek where everyone was paired up and the male sperg who had invited me, had somehow completely shut off and did not talk for days. The normie gfs were shooting daggers with their eyes, because they did not see me as a possible friend, but as a threat, and the guys were afraid to talk to me. Later I learned, that they found me weird, quiet and complained I did not talk to them much, while nobody tried to break the ice or start a conversation I could join. And that's an usual situation for me.