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[poopinmy_line]

Goodings has had a bunch of miscarriages, which I think is driving her decision-making here. It's especially odd considering Orthodox church law allows for termination in case of an ectopic pregnancy. It's also interesting that the pregnancy is located in her c-section scar tissue, not in her fallopian tube. I had no idea that could happen.

Medfag here, I mostly see ectopics in the ovary itself or most often in the fallopian tubes (but it just looks like the ectopic is floating out in the ligaments of the uterus, so we generally call it an adnexal [general uterine area] ectopic). The main reason we try to limit moms to 4 c-sections and a limited amount of VBAC (vaginal birth after cesarian) is because of what's going on with Goodings, a CSP.

The frequency of cesarean scar pregnancy is reported to be 1:1,800 to 1:2,226 (0.05–0.04%) of all pregnancies. In women after a cesarean section, the frequency of CSP is approximately 0.15%, which constitutes 6.1% of all ectopic pregnancies in patients after at least one cesarean operation(3). (NIH)
The doctors will always, always, recommend strongly that the mother terminate for her safety in the case of any ectopic but especially in this case. It's the most dangerous kind of ectopic by far.


"The gestational outcome was described in 194 patients. Out of these, 39 patients (20,1%) had a miscarriage and 16 (8,3%) suffered foetal death. 50 patients had a term delivery (25,8%) and 81 (41,8%) patients had a preterm birth, out of which 27 (13,9%) delivered before 34 weeks of gestation; 25 cases were known to be emergent deliveries, most of them due to severe haemorrhage and 102 (52,6%) patients had a hysterectomy (10 elective versus 92 emergent). All live births had a caesarean delivery, except for one case of vaginal delivery....From our review, cases of CSP had a high rate of relevant morbidity: foetal death, preterm birth (including under 34 weeks), blood loss, hysterectomies, and surgical complications; but particularly higher in CSP with PAS. The presence of PAS has been linked to more unfavourable obstetric outcomes, and even within the spectrum, cases of more severe PAS are linked to more morbidity."

Note: PAS is placenta accreta spectrum; when the placenta implants too deeply in the uterus and thus has more difficulty detaching after labor. This can lead to hemhorrage.

Spoiler: PAS Sperging

The three kinds of PAS:
Placenta accreta: The placenta grows into the uterine lining and does not separate easily at delivery.

Placenta increta: The placenta grows into the muscle of the uterine wall.

Placenta percreta: The placenta grows through the uterine wall and may grow into other organs.

Cesarean Scar Pregnancy: A systematic review on expectant management​

Silva, Beatriz et al.
European Journal of Obstetrics and Gynecology and Reproductive Biology, Volume 288, 36 - 43

 

[ZsaZsaBinks]

I hate when these families tell people that they’ll “only have retards past 35” but constantly have kids even into their forties. By their beliefs, shouldn’t they be a big source of retards? Not to mention that they’re all pro-life.

 

[Free the Pedos]

I hate when these families tell people that they’ll “only have retards past 35” but constantly have kids even into their forties. By their beliefs, shouldn’t they be a big source of retards? Not to mention that they’re all pro-life.

I have never encountered a fundie who says that, quite the opposite IME.

 

[Mandy Stroyer]

I have never encountered a fundie who says that, quite the opposite IME.

8 out of 10 of their children could be vegetable levels of retard and they'll still keep popping them out thinking the next one is going to fair fine because the other ones did. After all, little Braxleigh smearing shit on the wall and screeching when he doesn't get tyson brand tendies is just one of God's gifts. It should be a sign to sterilize yourself if most of your kids have autism or some other developmental disorder.

 

[Agent Abe Caprine]

8 out of 10 of their children could be vegetable levels of retard and they'll still keep popping them out thinking the next one is going to fair fine because the other ones did. After all, little Braxleigh smearing shit on the wall and screeching when he doesn't get tyson brand tendies is just one of God's gifts. It should be a sign to sterilize yourself if most of your kids have autism or some other developmental disorder.

Considering how this whole thing is more about control than religion, having a child that never mentally develops past early childhood is probably a good thing to them. You can't control a normal child as easily once they reach the double digits. A spud will never mentally gain the ability to truly rebel.

 

[Free the Pedos]

Considering how this whole thing is more about control than religion, having a child that never mentally develops past early childhood is probably a good thing to them. You can't control a normal child as easily once they reach the double digits. A spud will never mentally gain the ability to truly rebel.

I don’t totally agree. They seem to expect their kids to work for them as soon as possible, and then start their own meager households.

 

[Mandy Stroyer]

I don’t totally agree. They seem to expect their kids to work for them as soon as possible, and then start their own meager households.

I think it's somewhere in between. Children are children until they get married and have children of their own. There is no transitional period the average 16-20something year old has when they get their license, a first/second job, go out more, go to college, date around, find themselves, and learn independence. They are reliant on their parents until their parents allow them to not be reliant anymore. For daughters, that's when they find a husband they must serve. For men, that's when they find a wife to serve them. It keeps them stunted. No one mentally progresses past childhood until someone snaps and has a midlife crisis.

 

[100%ThatBitch]

I had never heard of Alex Goodings before this thread and I had to check her instagram to see how the pregnancy is going. And she just posted a story yesterday about packing her delivery bag for the hospital. So I guess this is happening!

I did some further looking around, and while she’s not really talked at all about the risks of an ectopic pregnancy, she did post a story about getting a tour of the NICU and also how she’s been getting stuff like steroid shots (to try and mature the baby’s lungs) and it looks like there’s a plan in place for the delivery (a surgery? Most likely). She may also be on bed rest since the recent videos from last week had her in bed.

And once I did my own detective work, I hoped over to FSU who confirmed that she’s been admitted for bleeding, fantastic, great sign, no horrifying shit happening here. They also included the birth plan update and this shit is horrifying



(These two are taken from fundiesnarkuncensored)

So the placenta is growing through/into the uterine wall. And she very well may have to have a hysterectomy after the baby is removed, it seems.

(And did she leave the hospital to go home at point?!!! That seems dangerous? Someone who knows more than me should explain lol)

 

[Free the Pedos]

And she very well may have to have a hysterectomy after the baby is removed, it seems.

I hope for her sake and her kids this happens. She’s not making wise medical decisions, but I’m preaching to the choir here.
I wonder if she’ll go on a crazy fundie adoption saga if that happens.

 

[glass_houses]

I hope for her sake and her kids this happens. She’s not making wise medical decisions, but I’m preaching to the choir here.

There's a reason why pregnancy and childbirth have been the biggest cause of death for women since hominids first decided that bipedalism is fun.

 

[TractorGirl]

The steroid shots are for the babies lungs if they’re going to do a premmie c section.

 

[multiverse]

So the placenta is growing through/into the uterine wall. And she very well may have to have a hysterectomy after the baby is removed, it seems

This trick is way underestimating the risks to her life, and her child's. The most likely outcome here is that she bleeds to death while doctors attempt to perform a premie c-section - she's going to need upwards of 40+ bags of transfusion blood if she's going to stand a chance. Getting out of this with her own life, the child's, with a hysterectomy is the best possible outcome in her scenario, not the worst.

She has at least six other children at home, and she's at high risk of losing her life for a pro-life talking point. Husband is totes on board, of course.

 

[Free the Pedos]

She has at least six other children at home, and she's at high risk of losing her life for a pro-life talking point

And the craziest part is that her church doesn’t even require this level of suicidal self sacrifice.

 

[Dr. Butt]

I don't know what you're all worried about. The last few times a freaky high-risk lunatic pregnancy was featured on the farms, the baby and mother came out of it perfectly fine. That Alex Potato Woman had her baby. I will absolutely not be shocked if this insane Goodings woman somehow has her impossible baby and lives to post about it.

 

[TismFarmer]

She toured the NICU and knows that her baby will weigh 2 and a half to 3 pounds at birth.
Yet she is still so far removed from reality that she packed multiple outfits for the baby.
Outfits that won't come anywhere near to fitting baby for months, and if she had paid attention during her tour, she would have noticed that the babies wear little hats, and diapers (if they're strong enough to be moved to change every 2 hours), and absolutely nothing else.
Baby will be introduced to teeny tiny preemie sized clothing eventually, when she is getting ready for discharge.
She's known for pretty much the whole pregnancy that she was going to have a small, probably premature, most likely sickly baby, but she doesn't seem to have put time and energy into learning all about their differences and how to best care for her.
I know the clothes aren't that important in the scheme of things, but it seems like a symbol of her fantasy over reality way of thinking/living.

 

[Jaded Optimist]

At least she finally made some smart-ish decisions?

 

[multiverse]

At least she finally made some smart-ish decisions?
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She's still most likely to bleed out and die. Her situation is pretty dire even if someone finally talked her off the ledge of imagining that she's going to get out of this alive without an immediate hysterectomy.

There's a chance she'll live and use this to beat anyone else over the head with it for pro-life Brownie points, but it's still the minority outcome.

Guess the husband finally realized he eould be the one stuck cooking and cleaning for six kids and a newborn all on his manly own, and talked some sense into her.

 

[NimertiS]

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Goodings has had a bunch of miscarriages, which I think is driving her decision-making here. It's especially odd considering Orthodox church law allows for termination in case of an ectopic pregnancy. It's also interesting that the pregnancy is located in her c-section scar tissue, not in her fallopian tube. I had no idea that could happen.

As an Orthodox Christian I agree, but it seems we have our fair share of fundies.

Also, I never understood why women roleplaying as Orthodox wear veils. In Greece you won't see that. Old ladies wear a scarf in their head, in remote villages, but it's cultural, it's not a religious symbol, and they can show their hair, it's just an outdated fashion statement

 

[Trombonista]

"Letting it stink in"

She is not happy about this, is she?

 

[Dr. Butt]

There's a chance she'll live and use this to beat anyone else over the head with it for pro-life Brownie points, but it's still the minority outcome.

Yes well now that you've posted that it's going to be the most likely outcome. Enjoy a hundred more pages of this woman, stalker atheist.