r/antiwork - Yes, it's exactly what it sounds like.

How will society function without jobs?


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I don't eat at McDonald's because I can't stand the cooking grease they use, but if I did.... Well nevermind, this poster is just so ludicrous.

1. $25 per hour? Are you nuts? I know lawyers and building maintenance people (you know, people with skillz) who don't make that much.

2. McDonald's is a franchise model, how would a walk-out work?

3. Work anywhere else? This isn't a threat to McDonald's franchisees; they'll hire immigrant labor on temporary visas or under the table; maybe they will automate things. Who knows?

4. The poster itself - I get the whole Bolshevik aesthetic they're going for, but a McDonald's prole using a hammer to pound burgers doesn't make any fucking sense whatsoever.

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I don't eat at McDonald's because I can't stand the cooking grease they use, but if I did.... Well nevermind, this poster is just so ludicrous.

1. $25 per hour? Are you nuts? I know lawyers and building maintenance people (you know, people with skillz) who don't make that much.

2. McDonald's is a franchise model, how would a walk-out work?

3. Work anywhere else? This isn't a threat to McDonald's franchisees; they'll hire immigrant labor on temporary visas or under the table; maybe they will automate things. Who knows?

4. The poster itself - I get the whole Bolshevik aesthetic they're going for, but a McDonald's prole using a hammer to pound burgers doesn't make any fucking sense whatsoever.

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maybe he's swinging the hammer to break the automated kiosks that replaced him
 
I'm picturing an incredibly obese 20-something with indeterminate gender, patchy chin hair and a dragon shirt tucked into work pants. They complain loudly about everything, are the slowest worker by far and are just depressing to be around in general.

But enough about me
 
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I prefer using the automated systems cause fuck low earning wagies.
I go both ways. A kiosk won’t punch your order in wrong and lets you customize and review your orders a lot easier compared to dictating to a cashier, but they also don’t do secret menus and can’t always tell you when something is out of stock. Of course, there are still people in the kitchen who will fuck up your order or not notice that the kiosk sent them an order, so those problems won’t go away.
 
I find the kiosk UI aggravating in how slow it is. Clearly designed for mongoloids.

About antiwork, it's actually neat seeing a movement coopted in real time. Already there's a push for a strong anti racism angle and all the typical minority pandering. It's stupid because the message was initially just "better working conditions and fair redistribution of profit" which includes anyone who works.

Now they're splitting between vaxx/antivaxx, POC, neurodivergent and alphabet people. It's a way for employers to appear to make concessions, as usual, but keep the status quo.

Productivity per worker is up astronomically since 1970, and we could work way less than we do. If we were to be Ok with 1970s standards of living we could work 4 hour days. Consoomers gotta consoom.
 
About antiwork, it's actually neat seeing a movement coopted in real time. Already there's a push for a strong anti racism angle and all the typical minority pandering. It's stupid because the message was initially just "better working conditions and fair redistribution of profit" which includes anyone who works.

Now they're splitting between vaxx/antivaxx, POC, neurodivergent and alphabet people. It's a way for employers to appear to make concessions, as usual, but keep the status quo.
Kind of like how the cancer moved into Atheism+?
 
I find the kiosk UI aggravating in how slow it is. Clearly designed for mongoloids.

About antiwork, it's actually neat seeing a movement coopted in real time. Already there's a push for a strong anti racism angle and all the typical minority pandering. It's stupid because the message was initially just "better working conditions and fair redistribution of profit" which includes anyone who works.

Now they're splitting between vaxx/antivaxx, POC, neurodivergent and alphabet people. It's a way for employers to appear to make concessions, as usual, but keep the status quo.

Productivity per worker is up astronomically since 1970, and we could work way less than we do. If we were to be Ok with 1970s standards of living we could work 4 hour days. Consoomers gotta consoom.

No suprise that megacorporations would hate for something like antiwork to gain real world traction, so there is probably some sabotage behind the scenes to bog it down the moevment down with alphabet sjw shit. Much easier for a company to just say they love trannies and make the problem go away
 
3. Work anywhere else? This isn't a threat to McDonald's franchisees; they'll hire immigrant labor on temporary visas or under the table; maybe they will automate things. Who knows?
I always thought McDonalds did this because the 2-3 McD's I went to most often as a kid seemed to be mostly staffed with Mexicans (black people worked at other fast food places). Apparently they do and some franchise owners get caught every now and then but it isn't as big of a problem as compared to, say, Hispanics picking strawberries in California. Or picking cotton, I heard that in the South, where they used to have black people (okay, and some whites too) picking cotton for centuries they now have Hispanics doing it, and I'm sure some of those landowners absolutely love free labor..
 
I always thought McDonalds did this because the 2-3 McD's I went to most often as a kid seemed to be mostly staffed with Mexicans (black people worked at other fast food places). Apparently they do and some franchise owners get caught every now and then but it isn't as big of a problem as compared to, say, Hispanics picking strawberries in California. Or picking cotton, I heard that in the South, where they used to have black people (okay, and some whites too) picking cotton for centuries they now have Hispanics doing it, and I'm sure some of those landowners absolutely love free labor..
People will do what they can get away with. Just because I see a non-white working at fast food joint, I don't automatically think they are illegal. That's retarded.
 
Honestly I've always thought there should be some sort of underwriting process with student loans based on how expensive tuition is and how employable the degree is. Someone going into engineering or nursing at a public university? Throw money at them. Hell, even if it's their second degree. Someone getting a MFA in Creative Writing at an expensive private university? Nope.

I understand the value of humanities but too many students just get trapped in crushing debt for degrees that are pretty much useless.
Good idea. The Internet is the ultimate tool for studying anything, especially the humanities. You can do it for free, on your terms, in your spare time (powerlevel: like I did). Imagine screwing yourself over for life instead of booting up your web browser and word processor lol
 
Good idea. The Internet is the ultimate tool for studying anything, especially the humanities. You can do it for free, on your terms, in your spare time (powerlevel: like I did). Imagine screwing yourself over for life instead of booting up your web browser and word processor lol
Yeah you can teach yourself pretty much anything these days thanks to piracy.
 
About antiwork, it's actually neat seeing a movement coopted in real time. Already there's a push for a strong anti racism angle and all the typical minority pandering. It's stupid because the message was initially just "better working conditions and fair redistribution of profit" which includes anyone who works.
Well thats pretty much fate of every sub that becomes popular on Reddit.
It gets inflicted by standard IDpol bs
 
Productivity per worker is up astronomically since 1970
This is something the antiwork types always point to as proof that people are working harder so therefore wages should go up, but most people aren't working any more or less hard than they were 50 years ago. Computers make everything easy. I remember nearly a decade ago, I worked at a job where we did a lot of stuff on paper by hand, but switched to a computerized system as I was working there and after I had gotten acclimated to it, I was easily 20% more productive without actually putting in any more effort. We're more productive because our jobs are easier, not because we're working harder.
Maybe these redditors should ask those auto workers who were replaced by robots how the push for higher wages went.
 
I think it's more that it feels unfair that even though we are not working harder, the work generates more profit and none of it trickles down. Wages should increase as there's more profit, theoretically allowing for better wages while preserving margins.

Basically we were promised toroidal space suburbs where you work half a day but it's worth 8 hours pay, then you spend the rest of the day playing space tennis. There was an actual, real worry in the mid century as to how we will use all of our free time once computers do the work.
 
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