r/antiwork - Yes, it's exactly what it sounds like.

[PipTheAlchemist]

They think they're too good for it. I think it's especially a problem with people who never had a shitty job when they were young. They're in their 20s and embarrassed to start out at the bottom, but they need to start somewhere.

They got bullied all the time, while they were still in school. They don't want to get bullied again by 16yo's, as an adult doing a minimum-wage job

 

[DamnWolves!]

Do they not see working there as just a stopgap to something better? Is this their chosen career path? We need to start telling kids its ok to be a plumber again.

When I was 14, I wanted to work at the local grocery store as a summer job. Grocery workers are unionized here. Minimum wage (which is what I would have gotten) was $6.45/hr (in 2004) and the union would have taken almost 1/3 of that...and the best part is that because you're part time, you don't get any of the benefits of the job security, or higher wages, or extra time off; the union just takes your money and gives you nothing in return. Eventually, I worked for the local movie theatre, also for $6.45/hr, but at least I got to keep it all. I loved that job.

Turns out this is a pretty common racket in unskilled labor unions. You get some loser lifers that basically suck the transient workers dry like vampire bats going from cow to cow.

Even in skilled trades, I have little patience for unions. Skilled tradesmen are now sufficiently rare that they definitely don't need a union; the only thing you need to be a successful electrician or plumber is to show up on time and not be a shithead.

I think I'd be more understanding if they were at least on equal footing with everyone else, but unless you live in a right-to-work state, unions get legislative protections that far exceed what individual workers do. If you want to bargain collectively, that's fine, but the business owner should have the right to refuse to come to the table; in the state I live in, it is illegal to hire willing replacement workers unless you're "negotiating in good faith with the union", and guess whose side the local labor board tends to be on? If you want to negotiate a mandatory union joining clause with your collective employer, that's fine, but here once a union is certified, it doesn't give the employer any choice about whether he maintains non-union employees doing the same kinds of work, nor does it give people the option to not join the union. You also can't stop outside union organizers from just waltzing into your business, and you have to "provide a space" for union organizers to discuss how best to fuck you over.

For whatever reason, it can't just be a normal contract; it's gotta be this special arrangement overly protected by government... not to mention all the grift, especially with public sector unions.

I'd be more supportive of this if I didn't know that labor laws don't apply to retarded people. Including minimum wage.

If they had to pay them minimum wage, they'd hire a normal person. There are plenty of people looking to work minimum wage jobs; why would you hire a retarded person? Nevermind the fact that these people are almost never working to support themselves; they just have jobs to make some pocket money.

That's the trouble with price floors; they create massive deadweight loss. If $6.45 was good enough for me, it should be good enough for a retarded person.

I do think unions are *mostly* good - they did give us the "weekend" after all.

Modern unions are not unions from 1925, and even then half of them were controlled by communist agitators and the other half were controlled by the mob.

 

[HarveyMCR]

“If Nazis were to rise to power, I would take out several of them with”

“We’re done with the phase where Nazis came into power… we’re now in the early Nazi stages of the nazi occupation”

This dude is gonna fucking shoot up a church claiming to be taking down the Fash, isn’t he? The dude also reposted the same message, verbatim, 4 hours ago onto r/WPT. So it’s (probably) not drunk schizoposting, its his actual, unironic beliefs.

 

[John Titor]

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I comprehend not liking self-checkouts. I myself don't care for them too much, though I'm not opposed to using them if it's all they've got. My gripe has more to do with personal reasons than anything regarding the loss of jobs (though that is obviously another reason to dislike them). My issue has to do with how impersonal self-checkouts are. Such is to be expected, of course, but there's something about seeing a real person and interacting with them that makes that trip to the supermarket a little more worthwhile. I'm probably putting too much stock into something so trivial, but I've grown to appreciate human interaction more, compared to my younger days.

I see these at Target and I always see them as a modern version of express lanes rather than a replacement for human staff since there's someone still overlooking them. I do agree with the impersonal touch because they're like those phone menus that are designed to piss people off with "press 1 for help and please stay on the line so we can tell you we're closed, fuck you".

 

[Marcus Tullius Cicero]

I see these at Target and I always see them as a modern version of express lanes rather than a replacement for human staff since there's someone still overlooking them. I do agree with the impersonal touch because they're like those phone menus that are designed to piss people off with "press 1 for help and please stay on the line so we can tell you we're closed, fuck you".

You're not wrong. There are people looking over them and standing by to help, if need be. But the maximum amount tends to be two or three, at the absolute most. Whereas there are upwards of ten-or-more lanes that could have cashiers, but only three are in use at any point. One of the benefits of smaller stores, I've noticed, is that they have less lanes, yet they're still able to handle much of the traffic that comes through to check out. Makes me wish we'd just have a series of stores in a given area, rather than one large superstore. I think Walmart's been doing something like that, but the problem of automated check-outs still persists.

 

[Lady Bizness]

I like the self-checkout so I can win at the game of CVS coupons. At the end of the day with their markup, we're only saving about 10% (out of curiosity we actually did a side-by-side comparison with Target) so I'm aware how stupid caring about CVS coupons is. The self checkout screams at you the whole time though trying to force you to rush and make a mistake. Then sometimes the clerk comes over to "help". No, I don't want to use my extrabucks with the 40% coupon, thanks.

I also like using self checkout so some poor teenager doesn't have to handle my lady-problem products.

 

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“If Nazis were to rise to power, I would take out several of them with”

“We’re done with the phase where Nazis came into power… we’re now in the early Nazi stages of the nazi occupation”

This dude is gonna fucking shoot up a church claiming to be taking down the Fash, isn’t he? The dude also reposted the same message, verbatim, 4 hours ago onto r/WPT. So it’s (probably) not drunk schizoposting, its his actual, unironic beliefs.

Quick, someone tell him the school district in Tennessee which allegedly banned his favorite graphic novel actually just took it off the required reading list and replaced it with some other Holocaust book and nowhere in the country is Maus banned.

 

[Shaka Brah]

Quick, someone tell him the school district in Tennessee which allegedly banned his favorite graphic novel actually just took it off the required reading list and replaced it with some other Holocaust book and nowhere in the country is Maus banned.

I certainly wouldn't mind if it was banned from the classroom. Teaching children history from a gay comic book is as stupid as if they had assigned Inglorious Basterds as mandatory for WWII history.

If schools really need to have a unit focusing on the Holocaust then they should save that shit for high school or college and have kids read actual historical books like Victor Klemperer's 3-volume autobiography.

 

[Salubrious]

Quick, someone tell him the school district in Tennessee which allegedly banned his favorite graphic novel actually just took it off the required reading list and replaced it with some other Holocaust book and nowhere in the country is Maus banned.

Usually lately, when Republicans "ban" a book, they only ban it at the elementary and middle school level. They aren't banning books at the high school level, but I could be wrong about that.

Then again, the left are the same people screaming that 9 years old is TOO LATE to start teaching children about gender identity.

 

[JustStopDude]

When I was 14, I wanted to work at the local grocery store as a summer job. Grocery workers are unionized here. Minimum wage (which is what I would have gotten) was $6.45/hr (in 2004) and the union would have taken almost 1/3 of that...and the best part is that because you're part time, you don't get any of the benefits of the job security, or higher wages, or extra time off; the union just takes your money and gives you nothing in return. Eventually, I worked for the local movie theatre, also for $6.45/hr, but at least I got to keep it all. I loved that job.

Turns out this is a pretty common racket in unskilled labor unions. You get some loser lifers that basically suck the transient workers dry like vampire bats going from cow to cow.

Even in skilled trades, I have little patience for unions. Skilled tradesmen are now sufficiently rare that they definitely don't need a union; the only thing you need to be a successful electrician or plumber is to show up on time and not be a shithead.

I think I'd be more understanding if they were at least on equal footing with everyone else, but unless you live in a right-to-work state, unions get legislative protections that far exceed what individual workers do. If you want to bargain collectively, that's fine, but the business owner should have the right to refuse to come to the table; in the state I live in, it is illegal to hire willing replacement workers unless you're "negotiating in good faith with the union", and guess whose side the local labor board tends to be on? If you want to negotiate a mandatory union joining clause with your collective employer, that's fine, but here once a union is certified, it doesn't give the employer any choice about whether he maintains non-union employees doing the same kinds of work, nor does it give people the option to not join the union. You also can't stop outside union organizers from just waltzing into your business, and you have to "provide a space" for union organizers to discuss how best to fuck you over.

For whatever reason, it can't just be a normal contract; it's gotta be this special arrangement overly protected by government... not to mention all the grift, especially with public sector unions.

If they had to pay them minimum wage, they'd hire a normal person. There are plenty of people looking to work minimum wage jobs; why would you hire a retarded person? Nevermind the fact that these people are almost never working to support themselves; they just have jobs to make some pocket money.

That's the trouble with price floors; they create massive deadweight loss. If $6.45 was good enough for me, it should be good enough for a retarded person.

Modern unions are not unions from 1925, and even then half of them were controlled by communist agitators and the other half were controlled by the mob.

It's weird how Americans have fucked up unions.

 

[Juan's Sombrero]

It's weird how Americans have fucked up unions.

It's weird how so many Americans are shady corrupt fucks.

 

[Shaka Brah]

It's weird how Americans have fucked up unions.

Unions here are an arm of the Democrat Party political machine a la Tammany Hall, and they often originated in political agitation and vote-buying scams rather than genuine labor reform. Our history with unionization is fucked because of that.

 

[Flaming Insignias]

Unions here are an arm of the Democrat Party political machine a la Tammany Hall, and they often originated in political agitation and vote-buying scams rather than genuine labor reform. Our history with unionization is fucked because of that.

My brother is an electrician's apprentice, and IBEW definitely likes to treat their workers as pawns. The Union tries to squeeze money out of the projects they work on, and have taken to some ridiculous policies to get every last drop (can't even bring his own water because the union demands the projects provide the workers with bottled water). And of course, the IBEW follows the marching orders of AFL-CIO and tried to make its workers Vote Blue no Matter Who, so I honestly can't tell if the few benefits are worth it, especially considering he's going to be basically shackled to them in order to get licensed and then pay off the education costs.

 

[FILTH Tourist]

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“If Nazis were to rise to power, I would take out several of them with”

“We’re done with the phase where Nazis came into power… we’re now in the early Nazi stages of the nazi occupation”

This dude is gonna fucking shoot up a church claiming to be taking down the Fash, isn’t he? The dude also reposted the same message, verbatim, 4 hours ago onto r/WPT. So it’s (probably) not drunk schizoposting, its his actual, unironic beliefs.

Considering a decent number of congress members are in interracial marriages themselves I have no idea where they are getting this idea that they are going to outlaw it. Even McConnell is married to a Taiwanese woman for fucks sake. The Nazi and GoP agendas are so far apart it isn't even funny.

Also, MAUS isn't the last bastion against fascism. If middle school kids need a picture book to understand that totalitarian governments are bad then they deserve the getting stomped by a jackboot.

 

[AirdropShitposts]

The Nazi and GoP agendas are so far apart it isn't even funny.

You'd think r/antiwork would be a little more favorable to the Nazi Platform, especially points 7, 11, 14-18 and 20:

 

[Zbk3VmLfujjzjxBd43tL]

Unions here are an arm of the Democrat Party political machine a la Tammany Hall, and they often originated in political agitation and vote-buying scams rather than genuine labor reform. Our history with unionization is fucked because of that.

That's because the main union federation in the US, AFL-CIO, absorbed all of the actual unions that pushed labor reform (including the original CIO). AFL was always a scheme used by politicians since it started in the 19th century. It never did anything except succeed with token reforms, often because it was threatened by actual unionists who might steal potential members. The AFL was detested by actual trade unionists and socialists such as Eugene Debs back when he was a union organizer. In the end the AFL won because they had the political pull to either absorb every other union or get them banned for a variety of reasons, like go look up the history of Labor Day, it's an interesting story of the elimination of a competing union (in this case of railway workers).

 

[Alcoholism]

You'd think r/antiwork would be a little more favorable to the Nazi Platform, especially points 7, 11, 14-18 and 20:
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Every modern Leftoid is just a National Socialist in denial.

 

[eternal dog mongler]

It's weird how Americans have fucked up unions.

Nursing unions are generally pretty good. One of the reasons is that they're pretty localized. Once unions start gobbling up people nationwide in different positions you get a lot of members who are at cross purposes and the union ends up not doing too much.

 

[Shaka Brah]

Every modern Leftoid is just a National Socialist in denial.

They'd be better if they were. Modern Leftoids, being the product of a Bioleninist push to politically motivate the lumpenproles, only have spite for the people of their nation and a desire to gain the status they feel they're owed at any cost.

 

[InteracialBowelSyndrome]

They'd be better if they were. Modern Leftoids, being the product of a Bioleninist push to politically motivate the lumpenproles, only have spite for the people of their nation and a desire to gain the status they feel they're owed at any cost.

Hell, even Stalinists had a "Don't be a lazy capitalist pig dog. Do some work and help the Motherland!"


Antiwork users just want everything for free, and state mandated tendies and cum socks.