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"I'm involved in the kink scene in New York, so it was easy to find friendly, trustworthy, understanding folks to have respectful fun with."

This strikes me as being particularly ridiculous. You know where I go to find friendly, trustworthy, understanding folks? Anywhere other than the New York "kink scene".
My impression from reading about various subcultures is that every type of 'scene' is always worse in New York, but on r/polyamory it makes sense to say that because the subreddit is filled with people bitching about how they live in, like, Traverse City or Hattiesburg and can't find anyone to fuck them.

Polyamory is part of a family of subcultures, where the primary people involved are fat, white, mad at their parents, and have humanities degrees from third-tier schools. It also includes:

  • 'Nerdy' stuff that doesn't actually involve intellectual pursuits, like renaissance fairs, Lord of the Rings fan events, and board games
  • Non-mainstream spirituality, especially Wicca and other neo-pagan bullshit, and a disproportionate amount of white converts to Buddhism are from this group. In the past I would've included Unitarianism, but I went to one of their services and even though they say they're non-Christian, it was very similar to the Congregational services of my youth, so I think Unitarianism but only if they grew up Catholic/hardcore Baptist/something else that's very different from low-church New England Protestantism, so it still feels edgy.
  • Related to the above but not exactly the same: being into hippy nonsense like healing crystals. Also, being really into wolves and thinking they're super magical and special.
  • Other weird sex stuff. Burlesque is full of these people. Every Gorean is one of these people.
There's also overlap with other stuff fat white people with humanities degrees like, such as craft beer, historical costuming, and making terrible Etsy products.
 
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I'm having issues wraping me head around trying to understand what this person is saying. Like is he a gay lover to a straight man. I she a women? Are they married? Why are there finainces tied together if he is married to the other women. Is he just a Mooch?
 
I'm having issues wraping me head around trying to understand what this person is saying. Like is he a gay lover to a straight man. I she a women? Are they married? Why are there finainces tied together if he is married to the other women. Is he just a Mooch?
I don't know why you think it's a man, pretty sure it's just a straight woman who's husband got a jealous girlfriend so now the wife has to get cucked and she's totally happy about it because they're besties.
 
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I'm having issues wraping me head around trying to understand what this person is saying. Like is he a gay lover to a straight man. I she a women? Are they married? Why are there finainces tied together if he is married to the other women. Is he just a Mooch?
has been with his girlfriend for 1 year
all three of us have been living together for a year

I suspect he was with the girlfriend for more than a year, actually, and he's planning on ditching chick #1 and marrying the girl he cheated on her with.
 

"she suffers from jealousy"

It's just so strange how this is worded, as if she's suffering from a disease or a mental disorder of some sort. Yet, she agreed to this arrangement and entered it of her own accord if OP and their partner had the longer relationship.

"We are both primaries to him"

No, you're not. Also, I concur with @Krokodil Overdose-- this is just a divorce taking its time... for some reason.
 
It's just so strange how this is worded, as if she's suffering from a disease or a mental disorder of some sort. Yet, she agreed to this arrangement and entered it of her own accord if OP and their partner had the longer relationship.
That's how polys see jealousy, as a mental disorder or some sort of throwback that they need to over come to become enlightened.
 
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I'm having issues wraping me head around trying to understand what this person is saying. Like is he a gay lover to a straight man. I she a women? Are they married? Why are there finainces tied together if he is married to the other women. Is he just a Mooch?

From the same person:
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I LOVE HER! I ABSOLUTELY LOVE HER! BESTIES!!! sobs
 
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I LOVE HER! I ABSOLUTELY LOVE HER! BESTIES!!! sobs
"I recommend you read a bunch of shitty books to justify your fucked situation, ignore that your boyfriend is spending more time with the other woman than you, is spending more on her, and is having more sex with her"

How can you even type this without realizing halfway through that something is seriously wrong with your situation.
 
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I'm having issues wraping me head around trying to understand what this person is saying. Like is he a gay lover to a straight man. I she a women? Are they married? Why are there finainces tied together if he is married to the other women. Is he just a Mooch?

Without context we can't decide a gender, but as someone else pointed out it's a protracted breakup that he or she hasn't realized happened yet.

For six years, OP and her boyfriend (I'm guessing it's a her) were in a close and committed relationship. They were in love, they lived together, and they shared finances.
Flash forward to last year, OP's boyfriend starts dating a new girl (poly amorously) and the new girl near instantaneously moves in with them.
The new girl doesn't like that OP's boyfriend is poly ("suffers from jealousy")
The new girl is brought on at the same level as OP - OP is not the "main bitch" and has no seniority in the relationship.
OP and her boyfriend separate their finances
The new girl moves out into a new place, OP's boyfriend starts moving there and spending "quality time" there. This is so the new girl doesn't have to see OP and her boyfriend interact in any capacity.

Despite all this OP and her boyfriend's girlfriends are totally best friends you guys.
 
Without context we can't decide a gender, but as someone else pointed out it's a protracted breakup that he or she hasn't realized happened yet.

For six years, OP and her boyfriend (I'm guessing it's a her) were in a close and committed relationship. They were in love, they lived together, and they shared finances.
Flash forward to last year, OP's boyfriend starts dating a new girl (poly amorously) and the new girl near instantaneously moves in with them.
The new girl doesn't like that OP's boyfriend is poly ("suffers from jealousy")
The new girl is brought on at the same level as OP - OP is not the "main bitch" and has no seniority in the relationship.
OP and her boyfriend separate their finances
The new girl moves out into a new place, OP's boyfriend starts moving there and spending "quality time" there. This is so the new girl doesn't have to see OP and her boyfriend interact in any capacity.

Despite all this OP and her boyfriend's girlfriends are totally best friends you guys.

I didn't click the thread but please tell me some of the degenerates in that sub-reddit are telling this woman to GTFO? I enjoy this thread because of all the cringe I get to see but this story is another one that goes into the "bumming me out" pile. Fuck her piece of shit boyfriend and his piece of shit behaviour. Christ, this shit is so bad it makes having a genuine affair seem romantic and fair by comparison because at least no one is fucking pretending this some galaxy-brain relationship.
 
This lady on a normie forum I'm a member of (at least 85% of members are middle aged women with kids) mentioned she's raising her kids in a poly family, with her husband and her boyfriend. I went through her whole post history to try and find more details, but this appears to be the first time she's ever mentioned it. I really hope someone asks her for more details.

I wonder why the polyamory circle jerk subreddit hasn't had posts in ages. There's active circlejerk subreddits for baby names and flag making!
 
Of course, the poly brigade is insisting OP is wrong to worry about this. The phrase "hard limit" is supposed to mean something.
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It gets so, so, so much worse than that for that guy.

https://www.reddit.com/r/polyamory/comments/b7p6hm/from_0_to_60_some_reopening_advice_wanted/ (Archive)

I apologize that this is going to be like a little book of a post...

My wife and I have been together for almost 20 years. Through thick and thin. Poverty, health problems, recessions, kids.. All the tough stuff and we still are madly in love with each other.

For the past 10 years, it's been very hard for me because her anxiety killed her sex drive, dead. And that was a dramatic change for us. We had been open before that, sometimes she'd have a boyfriend, sometimes me a girlfriend, sometimes we'd see some other friends together. It was a good situation, until mental health shut it all down.

At that point, we closed the marriage. She had no interest, and I didn't want to feel like I could just replace her in that way. Teamwork, see us through.

Through a long hard road, careful medication work, therapy, and determination, she's more herself than she's been in a decade. Including libido, which is all great and a huge accomplishment.

Something unexpected happened at the same time, though. An old relationship she used to have rekindled online (very, very long distance) right about the same time.

So, I went from a wife who showed zero interest in me to wife who was sexually active, interested in me, and wanting to have that online relationship.

She, of course, asked if this could happen. I want the answer to be yes. I said "yes, but it is going to take some work to be OK with."

I'm not coping well with this transition. I've been working on breaking down my jealousy issues that have flared up,
and in a big way, trying to work through them all.

She and he have a long dormant dom/sub relationship. She's a masochist and he can fulfill a need for her I just can't, not in the same way. This already pushes things into uncomfortable for me. In that way, I'm just not enough for her. That's a fact and it's a hard one to take. He can treat her very differently because they have a different dynamic - she will never have to ask him if he remembered the laundry. With him, she can just give herself over to being submissive entirely. Clean transition.

So there's anxiety/problem #1: What are some ways I can try to accept the fact that they just have a different relationship than I can have with her? I'm having a hard time with it, but I know it's normal and natural for different relationships to be different, esp if dom/sub in one, not in the other.

My second form of jealousy/issue was something we've talked through already, but including it here. The timing of her libido returning and the renewed relationship with him, it felt like those two were intertwined. That it's only because of him that she was interested in sex again. I felt incredibly insecure about myself from that. That I wasn't attractive enough to 'get her motor running' anymore.

I'm being careful not to repeatedly seek reassurance on this one, as that's a crap behavior I don't want to start. But, in our one conversation about this area, she definitely said I still am attractive to her.

So, anxiety/problem #2: I don't feel attractive, which I'm working on fixing (gym, better eating, wardrobe once I lose an inch on the midsection). What are some ways to help myself stop feeling unattractive? What are some small things I can maybe reasonably ask of her that would help reinforce that she does without it being a burden?

Third issue.... I'm totally a "Hot Wife" kind of guy. Super into voyeur. I thought long and hard about this for the past two weeks, and a huge amount of my feeling negative about their new relationship growth is that I'm very excluded from it. I'm incredibly turned on by her sharing intimate photos with him - if I could see them too. I don't need to read their chats, but if she described what they were virtually doing while she and I were together, I would lose-my-mind enjoy it.

However, at least for now, she is very intentionally excluding me from that space. Her reasons aren't necessarily important - she defined a boundary and I need to respect that. I have no fear at all that she is doing anything dangerous with him or that our relationship is at risk.

So, anx/prob #3: Right now, she's doing something that would be intensely fantasy fulfilling for me. How can I get myself to overcome how much I resent being excluded? I know what she has done is 100% reasonable and I need to respect that no. I don't know how to process this envy. This deep seated need because it's been a life-long kink and it's right there, but for that "no".

I want to just feel happy about this situation. I want to feel only joy for her. This is pretty awesome stuff for her to be able to do.

And she is being very compassionate. She is listening when I need something, or just to vent about a struggle I'm having. And we've had a new renewed passion between us. We've made strides into new areas that have been on my wishlist and hers. So, it's so stupidly close to just being wonderful. Except I keep stumbling over parts of my mind that flare up like the 3 above.

I've also reached out to the poly community of the city where we moved to 4 years back so that maybe I can start to have a community here to better look to. Behavior modelling is helpful.

Concern #4: On the off chance I hit it off with some one or ones from that community, is considering that going to make me feel a bit more like there are more upsides to the whole thing? Or am I adding black powder to the smoldering room? Is it fair to even consider trying to build a new relationship with someone(s) if I'm struggling with the above?

Thoughts? Any would be appreciated. And I can talk more interactively if PM'd. I just.. I have no friends that are healthy poly people to talk me through this. I want to be better, not just for her, but for me, for us.

Edit: Realized I hadn't said. This ALL happened in March. Mostly the 2nd half. So the speed of everything has been possibly part of the problem here. Hence the 0 to 60 title.

TL;DR -
This guy was with his wife for 20 years, the first 10 were "open" but not super serious with the other partners.
For the last 10 years (excluding very recently) the wife no longer has a sex drive and they no longer have sex.
They decided to no longer be open and enter into 10 years of a sexless marriage together. The husband still has a sex drive and has tremendous unfulfilled fantasies during this time.
Recently, in the last month, the wife rediscovers her sex drive. Ten long years of therapy, medication, and support from her amazing husband who swore off sex to help her.
ENTIRELY COINCIDENTALLY - she at that exact same time started talking to an old flame of hers (that apparently she has known for longer than her husband). Almost certainly a coincidence. She asks to enter into a relationship with her old flame that she was talking to when she found her sex drive again.

OP, in a brief moment of clarity, realizes this is probably a bad idea but goes along with it anyway because his wife is happy about it. He mentions that it will take "but it's going to take some work to be OK with".
He has large issues with the long distance guy likely being the one who reignited her sex drive (in a matter of days) when he couldn't do it in 10 years.
He has large issues with his wife being into submissive roleplay with the long distance guy and explicitly (he's asked a few times) not with him; despite the fact it's what he's super into it. He hasn't had his fantasy fulfilled in at least 11 years.
He has large issues being the "chores in the house guy" and not "the object of my wife's affection" guy.
He has large issues with his wife not fulfilling his fantasy of "wife sharing" and including him in their relationship in any capacity.

The best case scenario for this dude is that he's been entirely replaced sexually by the long distance guy. The worst case is that his wife has been online cheating on him for a little while and that's what reignited her sex drive. He does state that she's been supportive, but makes no mention of her even having a thought of slowing down or stopping what she's doing even though he's likely super distraught over it. There is also only slight mention of her and him having sex, but none of his fantasies are being met (the BDSM or the Sharing) and because her BDSM relationship is long distance (for now) it might be a case of "This is what is available right here, better than nothing".

This guy is getting dunked on so hard the backboard shattered.
 
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