It is slowly reaching out of the hoi4 modding community thankfully, all of this is lighting a fire under their asses and its karma for their evil behavior.
God, this "apology" is the definition of throwing so much information at someone that they cannot digest it to fully do a counterpoint. It rambles and just makes the reader give up and carry on with their day. Tomorrow I'll have to do a video dissecting this mess of a PR responseI'm still in the Discord, and as of a few minutes ago one of the mods posted this (Fucking pictures ain't working. I'm putting this as a spoiler for now, fuck it.)
TheTortleToday at 12:07 AM
Hello, @everyone Recently, a post on r/hoi4modding has been circulating around the HOI4 Community in regards to accusations of the allowance of pedophilic actions and discussions to be allowed within the TNO Development team, with the use of past discussion logs as being proof regarding these accusations. In summary, I can well and truly say that no such groomer-like discussions are happening as of present, with the Developers, Team Leads, Moderators, and otherwise involved in disallowing any form of uncomfortable behavior in regards to team conduct. Predatory actions like that are never going to be tolerated within this community, and we guarantee that no such actions will be allowed within the Development Team itself. In particular, many of these accusations hinge upon two groups: either people who are no longer on the team, after making these dreadful comments years ago, because they were removed from the team directly because of these actions long ago, in order to counteract this sort of behavior because of our fierce intolerance of such actions upon the team. The second group being messages that are taken absolutely out of context, as Pacifica herself explained to me:
[12:07 AM]
"'Reminds me, I need to flirt with Chai more' - a joking comment about how I was lonely (I was single at the time), and teasing the aforementioned Chai for having a tendency to talk about all the people she has flirted with. She was not underage at the time. In fact, she is older than me, and also senior to me on the team at the time." "'I'm very invested in hitting on kids' - A sarcastic comment about a 17-year old (I was 18 at the time), who was making suggestive comments towards me. I was uncomfortable with this, and so told him to stop, and then said "ah yes I'm totally willing to hit on kids", as a sarcastic statement - seeing as I was extremely unnerved by anything approaching suggestive comments from a minor. The "not online you're not" was a comment about him saying that he was "legal" - I was telling him that he was not legal online (the age of consent in his state was 16, but the online age of consent is 1, and that he needed to stop." (Note: the above are from a conversation with Pacifica.) Nevertheless, as far as I am concerned, no type of grooming or actions like that will ever be allowed here. If any such suspicions or concerns arise, please contact a mod, dev, or myself. Thank you, everyone.
[12:08 AM]
Additional Comment from Pacifica: "These messages are casual posts, largely sarcastic, in a safe setting, between close friends. These messages were never intended to be seen publicly, and so were not composed for the public eye. I have historically been known to be extremely harsh on minors making suggestive comments or NSFW statements. The earlier messages regarding nude photos were from before my time, and the individuals responsible were disciplined. You will note that they are no longer on the team. I am certain that we have all said things that, if taken out of context, make us look bad. These messsages are years old, from a time when team culture was much more "rough"/"shitposty" than it is now - as the result of a few actors who are long gone from the team. Team culture has become far more professional over time, and our regulations on NSFW posting have been strengthened in the past two years. I remind you that this is a concerted operation to make us look bad via taking messages out of context, and I recommend you do not fall for it."
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[12:09 AM]
Furthermore, as a closing statement, the origins of this post began in the same communities that organized the doxxing and harassment of members oft completely unrelated to these accusations. At the time, we did not feel it necessary to gratify such communities with a response and felt doing so might risk the continuation of the cycling of the doxxes and harassment. Apparently, that has proven to be untrue per the recent doxxing of a TNO member who was on the team for the entirety of 3 months well over a year after any of the released posts where made. We take seriously all accusations of pedophilia and have and will continue to remove members of the team upon investigation. However, we believe it clear, in light of these post's flimsy character and deliberately bad-faith origin that these accusations are not made genuinely, but constitute a continued harassment campaign against our project and team. Here's the post in question for those who do not know about all this: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/799318820774084618/814976238040645652/spreadtheword.png
First off, I'm going to write this with the assumption that Pacifica is in fact not a groomer or a pedophile.I'm still in the Discord, and as of a few minutes ago one of the mods posted this (Fucking pictures ain't working. I'm putting this as a spoiler for now, fuck it.)
TheTortleToday at 12:07 AM
Hello, @everyone Recently, a post on r/hoi4modding has been circulating around the HOI4 Community in regards to accusations of the allowance of pedophilic actions and discussions to be allowed within the TNO Development team, with the use of past discussion logs as being proof regarding these accusations. In summary, I can well and truly say that no such groomer-like discussions are happening as of present, with the Developers, Team Leads, Moderators, and otherwise involved in disallowing any form of uncomfortable behavior in regards to team conduct. Predatory actions like that are never going to be tolerated within this community, and we guarantee that no such actions will be allowed within the Development Team itself. In particular, many of these accusations hinge upon two groups: either people who are no longer on the team, after making these dreadful comments years ago, because they were removed from the team directly because of these actions long ago, in order to counteract this sort of behavior because of our fierce intolerance of such actions upon the team. The second group being messages that are taken absolutely out of context, as Pacifica herself explained to me:
[12:07 AM]
"'Reminds me, I need to flirt with Chai more' - a joking comment about how I was lonely (I was single at the time), and teasing the aforementioned Chai for having a tendency to talk about all the people she has flirted with. She was not underage at the time. In fact, she is older than me, and also senior to me on the team at the time." "'I'm very invested in hitting on kids' - A sarcastic comment about a 17-year old (I was 18 at the time), who was making suggestive comments towards me. I was uncomfortable with this, and so told him to stop, and then said "ah yes I'm totally willing to hit on kids", as a sarcastic statement - seeing as I was extremely unnerved by anything approaching suggestive comments from a minor. The "not online you're not" was a comment about him saying that he was "legal" - I was telling him that he was not legal online (the age of consent in his state was 16, but the online age of consent is 1
[12:08 AM]
Additional Comment from Pacifica: "These messages are casual posts, largely sarcastic, in a safe setting, between close friends. These messages were never intended to be seen publicly, and so were not composed for the public eye. I have historically been known to be extremely harsh on minors making suggestive comments or NSFW statements. The earlier messages regarding nude photos were from before my time, and the individuals responsible were disciplined. You will note that they are no longer on the team. I am certain that we have all said things that, if taken out of context, make us look bad. These messsages are years old, from a time when team culture was much more "rough"/"shitposty" than it is now - as the result of a few actors who are long gone from the team. Team culture has become far more professional over time, and our regulations on NSFW posting have been strengthened in the past two years. I remind you that this is a concerted operation to make us look bad via taking messages out of context, and I recommend you do not fall for it."
NEW
[12:09 AM]
Furthermore, as a closing statement, the origins of this post began in the same communities that organized the doxxing and harassment of members oft completely unrelated to these accusations. At the time, we did not feel it necessary to gratify such communities with a response and felt doing so might risk the continuation of the cycling of the doxxes and harassment. Apparently, that has proven to be untrue per the recent doxxing of a TNO member who was on the team for the entirety of 3 months well over a year after any of the released posts where made. We take seriously all accusations of pedophilia and have and will continue to remove members of the team upon investigation. However, we believe it clear, in light of these post's flimsy character and deliberately bad-faith origin that these accusations are not made genuinely, but constitute a continued harassment campaign against our project and team. Here's the post in question for those who do not know about all this: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/799318820774084618/814976238040645652/spreadtheword.png
Got the actual screenshots now.I'm still in the Discord, and as of a few minutes ago one of the mods posted this (Fucking pictures ain't working. I'm putting this as a spoiler for now, fuck it.)
TheTortleToday at 12:07 AM
Hello, @everyone Recently, a post on r/hoi4modding has been circulating around the HOI4 Community in regards to accusations of the allowance of pedophilic actions and discussions to be allowed within the TNO Development team, with the use of past discussion logs as being proof regarding these accusations. In summary, I can well and truly say that no such groomer-like discussions are happening as of present, with the Developers, Team Leads, Moderators, and otherwise involved in disallowing any form of uncomfortable behavior in regards to team conduct. Predatory actions like that are never going to be tolerated within this community, and we guarantee that no such actions will be allowed within the Development Team itself. In particular, many of these accusations hinge upon two groups: either people who are no longer on the team, after making these dreadful comments years ago, because they were removed from the team directly because of these actions long ago, in order to counteract this sort of behavior because of our fierce intolerance of such actions upon the team. The second group being messages that are taken absolutely out of context, as Pacifica herself explained to me:
[12:07 AM]
"'Reminds me, I need to flirt with Chai more' - a joking comment about how I was lonely (I was single at the time), and teasing the aforementioned Chai for having a tendency to talk about all the people she has flirted with. She was not underage at the time. In fact, she is older than me, and also senior to me on the team at the time." "'I'm very invested in hitting on kids' - A sarcastic comment about a 17-year old (I was 18 at the time), who was making suggestive comments towards me. I was uncomfortable with this, and so told him to stop, and then said "ah yes I'm totally willing to hit on kids", as a sarcastic statement - seeing as I was extremely unnerved by anything approaching suggestive comments from a minor. The "not online you're not" was a comment about him saying that he was "legal" - I was telling him that he was not legal online (the age of consent in his state was 16, but the online age of consent is 1
[12:08 AM]
Additional Comment from Pacifica: "These messages are casual posts, largely sarcastic, in a safe setting, between close friends. These messages were never intended to be seen publicly, and so were not composed for the public eye. I have historically been known to be extremely harsh on minors making suggestive comments or NSFW statements. The earlier messages regarding nude photos were from before my time, and the individuals responsible were disciplined. You will note that they are no longer on the team. I am certain that we have all said things that, if taken out of context, make us look bad. These messsages are years old, from a time when team culture was much more "rough"/"shitposty" than it is now - as the result of a few actors who are long gone from the team. Team culture has become far more professional over time, and our regulations on NSFW posting have been strengthened in the past two years. I remind you that this is a concerted operation to make us look bad via taking messages out of context, and I recommend you do not fall for it."
NEW
[12:09 AM]
Furthermore, as a closing statement, the origins of this post began in the same communities that organized the doxxing and harassment of members oft completely unrelated to these accusations. At the time, we did not feel it necessary to gratify such communities with a response and felt doing so might risk the continuation of the cycling of the doxxes and harassment. Apparently, that has proven to be untrue per the recent doxxing of a TNO member who was on the team for the entirety of 3 months well over a year after any of the released posts where made. We take seriously all accusations of pedophilia and have and will continue to remove members of the team upon investigation. However, we believe it clear, in light of these post's flimsy character and deliberately bad-faith origin that these accusations are not made genuinely, but constitute a continued harassment campaign against our project and team. Here's the post in question for those who do not know about all this: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/799318820774084618/814976238040645652/spreadtheword.png
I dont think thats the problem, the problem is that the writing is so bad that they had to use the homophobe card to show that Hall is bad since people Just dont give a shit about dismantling Hoover's little empire
Speaking of TNO USA.
That is one sad penis.Due to an attempt to blackmail one of the people that covered the TNO leaks, the nudes and details of a former TNO dev and an associate of Panzer involved in the blackmail is being dropped (no mercy for pedoes). Beware Islamic content.
And so begins the Great Trial.Zillamaster55 alias Abraham "Mabry" Moller-Jacobs of 4209 Martina Drive in Rockford Illinois. A tranny who originally worked on the mod in its earlier days and later became a forum moderator on the Knockout forums where several ex TNO devs (including Panzer himself) reside. The mods there have much in common with the discord in that they too try to suppress evidence of grooming and pedophilia.
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A bent duck, much like another famous one.
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And him toking up, why not?
I'm guessing someone reported the file. Either someone from the TNO team, or someone trying to be le ebic trooll. I'm curious, how does the mega reporting system work? Does anyone know if they actually check through the files before they take them down?
"I-it was taken out of context!"I'm still in the Discord, and as of a few minutes ago one of the mods posted this (Fucking pictures ain't working. I'm putting this as a spoiler for now, fuck it.)
TheTortleToday at 12:07 AM
Hello, @everyone Recently, a post on r/hoi4modding has been circulating around the HOI4 Community in regards to accusations of the allowance of pedophilic actions and discussions to be allowed within the TNO Development team, with the use of past discussion logs as being proof regarding these accusations. In summary, I can well and truly say that no such groomer-like discussions are happening as of present, with the Developers, Team Leads, Moderators, and otherwise involved in disallowing any form of uncomfortable behavior in regards to team conduct. Predatory actions like that are never going to be tolerated within this community, and we guarantee that no such actions will be allowed within the Development Team itself. In particular, many of these accusations hinge upon two groups: either people who are no longer on the team, after making these dreadful comments years ago, because they were removed from the team directly because of these actions long ago, in order to counteract this sort of behavior because of our fierce intolerance of such actions upon the team. The second group being messages that are taken absolutely out of context, as Pacifica herself explained to me:
[12:07 AM]
"'Reminds me, I need to flirt with Chai more' - a joking comment about how I was lonely (I was single at the time), and teasing the aforementioned Chai for having a tendency to talk about all the people she has flirted with. She was not underage at the time. In fact, she is older than me, and also senior to me on the team at the time." "'I'm very invested in hitting on kids' - A sarcastic comment about a 17-year old (I was 18 at the time), who was making suggestive comments towards me. I was uncomfortable with this, and so told him to stop, and then said "ah yes I'm totally willing to hit on kids", as a sarcastic statement - seeing as I was extremely unnerved by anything approaching suggestive comments from a minor. The "not online you're not" was a comment about him saying that he was "legal" - I was telling him that he was not legal online (the age of consent in his state was 16, but the online age of consent is 1
[12:08 AM]
Additional Comment from Pacifica: "These messages are casual posts, largely sarcastic, in a safe setting, between close friends. These messages were never intended to be seen publicly, and so were not composed for the public eye. I have historically been known to be extremely harsh on minors making suggestive comments or NSFW statements. The earlier messages regarding nude photos were from before my time, and the individuals responsible were disciplined. You will note that they are no longer on the team. I am certain that we have all said things that, if taken out of context, make us look bad. These messsages are years old, from a time when team culture was much more "rough"/"shitposty" than it is now - as the result of a few actors who are long gone from the team. Team culture has become far more professional over time, and our regulations on NSFW posting have been strengthened in the past two years. I remind you that this is a concerted operation to make us look bad via taking messages out of context, and I recommend you do not fall for it."
NEW
[12:09 AM]
Furthermore, as a closing statement, the origins of this post began in the same communities that organized the doxxing and harassment of members oft completely unrelated to these accusations. At the time, we did not feel it necessary to gratify such communities with a response and felt doing so might risk the continuation of the cycling of the doxxes and harassment. Apparently, that has proven to be untrue per the recent doxxing of a TNO member who was on the team for the entirety of 3 months well over a year after any of the released posts where made. We take seriously all accusations of pedophilia and have and will continue to remove members of the team upon investigation. However, we believe it clear, in light of these post's flimsy character and deliberately bad-faith origin that these accusations are not made genuinely, but constitute a continued harassment campaign against our project and team. Here's the post in question for those who do not know about all this: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/799318820774084618/814976238040645652/spreadtheword.png
And if all else fails just say that the picture was made in bad faith and by trolls, transphobes, doxxers, racists...
Look at the reddit comments for the post. They unironically claim that the leakers making "transphobic jokes" lower their credibility LOL
Even if this doesn't end TNO it will be a black stain on their reputation. Look at how quickly Frontier crumbled when the pedophiles got exposed (Unfortunately only Zu was outed actually. The pedos who made the fetish Asian teens got away.
Couldn't put it better myself.
But he's a homophobe that means he is absolutely vile!!!!
It's worse when you realize the FR-NPP is composed of segregationists and neocons, not people who want to murder blacks or some shit.
I think Chai is one of the few actual women in TNO. Think she is the Polish one. EDIT: Nvm I'm thinking of a different Pole involved in TNO I think.
"An old friend of mine told the school I sexually assaulted her"
Said video was removed by Nic because someone defending TNO spammed CP in his discord server.
