Plagued /r/TNOmod and the Reddit HOI4 modding community - When a subreddit for a video game mod turns to utter insanity

[GentlemanFaggot]

btw Ofaloaf, the head guy who made the After the End mod is working on Vicky3 for Paradox.

Doesn't After the End have a TNO tier level of drama? I'm not familiar with the specifics of it...

Any if there's a modder to dev pipeline I can't wait to see what paradox circa. 2030 will look like.

Ofaloaf was the creator of ATE indeed and although he created a fine foundation he failed to update it and a great Fan Fork was made, and Ofaloaf got passive-aggressive about the fan fork despite initially giving permission.

I wouldn't call it anywhere near TNO drama but Ofaloaf is someone I don't have a lot of respect for as a modder. But who knows, maybe the reason he stopped updating ATE was getting a real job from PDX? Still doesn't excuse being a total bitch though.

 

[>tfw no Asian gf]

I'm not gonna lie, as much as I love Vicky2 and what it does, I money cheat just about every fucking time.

The head dev of Vicky 3 released the last Vicky 2 patch so maybe he knows wtf is going on.

I imagine Vicky 3 will be dumbed down to an extent...it kind of has to be tbf. I'll probably still love and tolerate some dumbing down withing reason.

They'll probably simplify the whole economy system for the sake of newer players, wich is understandable since the only ones who understood it were autists, economists and the guy who coded it.

 

[GentlemanFaggot]

They'll probably simplify the whole economy system for the sake of newer players, wich is understandable since the only ones who understood it were autists, economists and the guy who coded it.

As much as I like a robust and complicated system, there is such thing as too much.

HOI3 went way too autistic even though I liked some of the details. HOI4 dumbed it down but for the better. HOI4 might have opened the path for a lot of cringey mods but I'd rather have too much mods than too few.

 

[Semiprofessional Sperg]

-TNO and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race. They have greatly increased the femboy-expectancy of those of us who live in “advanced” countries, but they have destabilized the minds of kids alike, have made life unfulfilling, have subjected hoi4 players beings to indignities,
have led to widespread psychological suffering (To poland from India) and have inflicted severe damage on the meme world. The continued development of TNO will worsen the situation.
It will certainly subject human beings to greater indignities and inflict greater damage on the meme world, it will probably lead to greater social disruption and psychological suffering to users that play the mod.
-The Redux-New Order of Europe system may survive or it may break down.
If it survives, it MAY eventually achieve a low level of grooming and transgender suffering,
but only after passing through a long and very painful period of adjustment and only at the cost of permanently reducing human beings and many other "users"
to engineered events and mere russian unifiers in the social machine. Furthermore, if the system survives,
the consequences will be inevitable: There is no way of reforming or modifying the New Europe system so as to prevent it from depriving people of dignity and autonomy.

Help The Blau Messiah complete his Jihad against TNO.

Fuck off you schizoid newfag nigger, quit doing larpy bullshit.

I get what you were trying to do by parodying the industrial revolution thing, but it wasn't funny, and it's shitting up the thread

 

[Lawrence of Algeria]

Don't worry Brother, Bluepanzer will cleanse your soul . Our destiny shall be completed, Our Jihad will be complete.

How much money did you waste going to Latvia

I'm not gonna lie, as much as I love Vicky2 and what it does, I money cheat just about every fucking time.

The head dev of Vicky 3 released the last Vicky 2 patch so maybe he knows wtf is going on.

I imagine Vicky 3 will be dumbed down to an extent...it kind of has to be tbf. I'll probably still love and tolerate some dumbing down withing reason.

After Imperator: Rome and Leviathan I lost any trust for PDX. I hope I'll be wrong in Vic3's case, but at this point Paradox feels like the EA of Grand Strategy genre.

Also, they're only popular because they have no competition and modding their games is the simplest thing ever. HOI4 would never be as popular without mods.

 

[GentlemanFaggot]

How much money did you waste going to Latvia

After Imperator: Rome and Leviathan I lost any trust for PDX. I hope I'll be wrong in Vic3's case, but at this point Paradox feels like the EA of Grand Strategy genre.

Also, they're only popular because they have no competition and modding their games is the simplest thing ever. HOI4 would never be as popular without mods.

It's something I think we're going to have to pay attention to the team for from now on. Imperator and Leviathan were both overseen by Johan and the team that would later become Paradox Tinto with Leviathan's release. Johan has shown himself numerous times recently to be the biggest PDX liability as his gameplay ideas are so out of touch with what people want (He had to be publicly shamed into removing Mana from Imperator...which wasn't enough to save it.).

So far, the Vicky3 team has potential. If they fail, they fail, but right now I'm optimistic since Johan's joke of a team in Spain is nowhere near it.

It should be noted that Johan was at one point a golden dev for Paradox and it's why he's gotten promoted so much. But he has clearly lost his touch in recent years.

 

[Lawrence of Algeria]

It's something I think we're going to have to pay attention to the team for from now on. Imperator and Leviathan were both overseen by Johan and the team that would later become Paradox Tinto with Leviathan's release. Johan has shown himself numerous times recently to be the biggest PDX liability as his gameplay ideas are so out of touch with what people want (He had to be publicly shamed into removing Mana from Imperator...which wasn't enough to save it.).

So far, the Vicky3 team has potential. If they fail, they fail, but right now I'm optimistic since Johan's joke of a team in Spain is nowhere near it.

It should be noted that Johan was at one point a golden dev for Paradox and it's why he's gotten promoted so much. But he has clearly lost his touch in recent years.

I admit I don't know much about Paradox's inner workings, so hopefully the Vic3 team will show some competence like you said.

And yeah, it's a shame that Andersson is a shadow of his former self. He's getting too old for this I guess.

 

[GentlemanFaggot]

I admit I don't know much about Paradox's inner workings, so hopefully the Vic3 team will show some competence like you said.

And yeah, it's a shame that Andersson is a shadow of his former self. He's getting too old for this I guess.

Yeah, the moment Vicky3 was announced I looked into the team and just who was given it. Johan fucking hates Vicky so I was dreading if he got anywhere near it. Although there's some things I'm skeptical of, like the ATE creator being a staff member, I don't see any ticking time bombs and the lead dev has shown himself to be one of their most talented directors and has experience with Vicky2 patching to a point where he released the last Vicky2 patch like five years after the previous.

I think Paradox is going to be a divided company where the team is going to matter immensely and needs to be paid attention to, especially when they change teams on a game. HOI4 started out strong as a base game but their current DLC team is extremely weak and gets run around in circles by modders (I do get the impression they're trying with later DLC but...it's not enough). Even CK2, which is probably their most successful game ever, had a two year dark era when the team changed and introduced controversial mechanics that couldn't be disabled like Shattered Retreat, but then they recovered in the late years of the game.

In other words: Paradox as a name is going to mean less and less the bigger the company gets and the more teams they field. I don't think they have centralized management who orders things and have given devs a lot of autonomy for their teams. Case in point, how there's a divide between Johan's team which had to quietly admit Mana mechanics suck after defending it for ages while the first thing Vicky 3's dev team gleefully says in their announcement is, "Yes, we have NO MANA!"

 

[EpicGamerMoment]

I'm already 2 steps ahead of my Pink Cousin. I am ready to form a future modding team for VIC3.
We will swiftly topple Pinkpanzer and his gangsta like tactics of modding . We must stop
him now or later . He will just make another braindead fanbase to help him be a child fucker. This kind of degeneracy shouldn't be accepted.

Will you shut up man

 

[Semiprofessional Sperg]

I'm already 2 steps ahead of my Pink Cousin. I am ready to form a future modding team for VIC3.
We will swiftly topple Pinkpanzer and his gangsta like tactics of modding . We must stop
him now or later . He will just make another braindead fanbase to help him be a child fucker. This kind of degeneracy shouldn't be accepted.

Quit larping and go beat Jakob's ass then, you autistic nigger.

 

[Jah Hates Kaffirs]

Bro I'm not from Mexico, I cannot just cross the US border like Dora the Explorer

Damn nigga that's wild but I don't care

 

[Can Crush for Jay Owen]

Can we get someone to ban this retard?

 

[Gone Ham]

Can we get someone to ban this retard?

Just report him for being a blue panzer alt.

 

[Karakhalkin-Gol]

Good lord, another autist shitting up this thread.

We should've stayed locked.

 

[AdmiralRenae]

Autists hijacking the thread always crack me up.

 

[>tfw no Asian gf]

As much as I like a robust and complicated system, there is such thing as too much.

HOI3 went way too autistic even though I liked some of the details. HOI4 dumbed it down but for the better. HOI4 might have opened the path for a lot of cringey mods but I'd rather have too much mods than too few.

It's a good business model, simplify the game just enough so more casual-like people can access it, by making it more simple the modders can have an easier time making mods wich in turn allows for a more stable playerbase that doesn't depend on the devteam for content.
But as you said, with simplification there also comes Cringe, but by itself the cringe is harmless, it's the people who create the cringe mods who are the problem.

 

[0x00000C1A]

Autists hijacking the thread always crack me up.

It has turned into some retarded PDX general thread, although we already have one nobody visits for reasons unknown.

Futhermore, this thread is once more inactive as nothing of note has happened over the last month concerning TNO except for a phone number leak that apparently belongs to ender.

 

[HiramTheGrift]

The real question will be if there's a vicky3 tno spin off. The team said they have no plans to do it, but I'm not counting out the unbridled autism spirit of the HOI4 community. Anyway here's some screencaps I saw of them talking about some old content that was cut from the mod awhile back. Makes me chuckle looking at things like Veitnamese Catholics and Falangist Poland

 

[EpicGamerMoment]

The real question will be if there's a vicky3 tno spin off. The team said they have no plans to do it, but I'm not counting out the unbridled autism spirit of the HOI4 community. Anyway here's some screencaps I saw of them talking about some old content that was cut from the mod awhile back. Makes me chuckle looking at things like Veitnamese Catholics and Falangist Poland
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Do they know about ultranationalist cannibal Mountbatten

 

[Radola Gajda]

Problem with Paradox is that they at the moment have de facto monopol on whole Grand Strategy genre . Maybe I am missing something , but outside of couple smaller indie project there is nobody else making GS.
So Paradox can get away with doing shit because where will their playerbase go