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PeterCrouch123 said:
TNO is removing Burgundy due to the control of the pro-communist Italian team (which is a huge clique within the mod). Will the Russian unifiers be next making all the unique elements of TNO completely gone?
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Where is this on the server?
 
Just why though? I can understand how they reworked Burgundy to basically be NS North Korea especially since the Global Plans didn't work or do shit and with how retarded the idea that Himmler was behind everything was. I guess my main question now is how are they going to justify the SS purge now since (presumably) Himmler didn't try to have his coup? Glad to see they're doing dumb shit like this instead of working on the 70's content.

Also in an unrelated note, in a moment of pure boredom I fired up the mod for the first time in a year and saw that they added the tank designer mechanic from NSB. Just why? You're gonna barely unlock the 70's tank tech by the time the game ends and its not like there is any point in using newer ones since there's only a few wars.
 
Some minor HOI4 Youtuber related drama:
The subreddit of Bokoen01 had a post about another Youtuber named SpudGun (primarily makes videos on Vic2) being some kind of Neo-Nazi. Bokoen01 himself shows up in the comments
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SpudGun makes a tweet defending himself, which Mountain General retweeted:
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The video in question:
 
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PeterCrouch123 said:
TNO is removing Burgundy due to the control of the pro-communist Italian team (which is a huge clique within the mod). Will the Russian unifiers be next making all the unique elements of TNO completely gone?
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Any chance you have the file in that screenshot or can get it? Also, the jannies and devs on the discord are calling it a fake. Can you disprove it so they are forced to admit?
 
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Bloudwulf said:
I wonder how Panzer feels about his creation slowly becoming completely unrecognizable...
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Some time ago he posted on the TNO subreddit about it. IIRC he said that if it were up to him, the mod would not have gone the direction it did, but he understood that a different leadership has different plans for the mod. Overall he thought that the mod is/is heading into a direction no longer in line with his original goals. Someone can probably go find his Reddit account and check the messages.
 
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foreman 89 said:
So is the Burgundy thing a fake?
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Came back to this thread to discuss that. If it is fake it must be very well made, it's worded exactly how like an internal announcement would be. Making such a change this late into PN development would be a bit strange though, they would have to redo a bunch of Germany's content, AND they have been opposed to removing some things like Long Yun because they're "too popular with the community" so until there's some official word from the devs I'm leaning towards it being fake.
 
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Horrible Pilled said:
Any chance you have the file in that screenshot or can get it? Also, the jannies and devs on the discord are calling it a fake. Can you disprove it so they are forced to admit?
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Sorry, I can't get the file. I'm pretty sure this stuff is coming from the higher-up parts of TNO, which is why many are calling to fake from below as I'm pretty sure in the byzantine command structure of TNO they don't even know yet. It's the same reason why Atlantropa being cut was called as being fake, and it seems to come from the same teams trying to change the narrative of the mod. I'm 90% sure that screenshot isn't doctored, but if it was it wasn't by me. As for popularity, the TNO devs seem to believe that Burgundy is an issue among the player base (read among their own wikitards without an ounce of creativity). I have a small snippet of a previous doc that someone has shared with me, however.
Complaining about Burgundy has essentially become a dead horse at this point - the questions of SS overcompetence, the plausibility of the tag and its plan, the missed opportunities of not exploring Himmler’s actual real life beliefs, as well as less conceptual and more direct points like the bad, overcomplicated and unsatisfying gameplay and outcomes, or its rushed, messy code, and many, many other issues. It’s clear to all, that following Burgundy’s tumultuous initial development cycle, the rather fruitless efforts to recycle it, as well as the current poor standing of their content - both in terms of actual structure as well as popular reception - that a more fundamental rework of the tag and its content is going to be necessary.


Additionally, while by necessity Burgundy’s foreign policy would be highly opportunistic, they shouldn’t support communists like they do currently (Asturias), that’s just too funny.
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This information came at the same time as the Goring and space rework. Considering how Burgundy and its fans make the TNO leaders autistically screech I have a feeling that they're hiding this until it's replaced due to the knowing backlash it would face. Personally, I believe this is just a part of the restructuring away from Panzer, in an almost de-Stalinification level of bureaucratic larp coming from the team. I wouldn't be surprised if certain Russian warlords were next on the chopping block, but don't quote me on that.
 
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Breadbassket said:
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https://youtu.be/65lZYsyYVt4?list=LL

The description of the video above has a pretty concise set of timestamps of what occurred on twitter and plebbit. The stream is mostly boring, but the timestamps posted in the description explain alot of what happened. Seeing Bo become such a faggot (more than usual) is getting rather old. I used to watch his content on Youtube, but not for him. It's moreso for his cast of retards. If Swimmy had any intelligence he would fucking do his own content and he would probably hit Tommy-K levels of fame.

But it's rather ironic that Bo, who exiled Dressel for being edgy and 'possibly' a Nat-Soc, still is best friends with Braun and Swimmy. Pretty odd he calls Spudgun edgy and racist, but he lives in his own glass house of edgy retards. Don't get me wrong, being edgy isn't bad. If anything, it's better than the sub 70 IQ paradox esports players, or troon mod developers.

I think ISP, another orbiter in the Paradox sphere is in a tough position, given he plays both Hoi4 and Vic2 with both Bo and Spud respectively. I hope he sticks by Spudgun, because Bokoen has proven once again he's a fag (once again more than usual).

End of the day I think this is the clash of generations. You have old school paradox players in Vic2 Multiplayer vs. Zoomer femboy Hoi4 players. I'd rather watch the Vic2 players because at least they openly call Paradox out for it's shit development, microtransactions, and absurd lefty revisionism they're shoving in Vic3. And, well, they can have a laugh when Nurse Reno drops the word Nigger once in a blue moon. I bet 1000 ducats you will see Bokoen day one playing Victoria 3 and kissing it's ass.

Finally to end this, I'll link Spud's tweet on being banned off Bo's subreddit: https://twitter.com/SpudgunO/status/1562078267141652481?s=20&t=stO1s_1-x5D3_50H7brCxw
 
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PeterCrouch123 said:
Sorry, I can't get the file. I'm pretty sure this stuff is coming from the higher-up parts of TNO, which is why many are calling to fake from below as I'm pretty sure in the byzantine command structure of TNO they don't even know yet. It's the same reason why Atlantropa being cut was called as being fake, and it seems to come from the same teams trying to change the narrative of the mod. I'm 90% sure that screenshot isn't doctored, but if it was it wasn't by me. As for popularity, the TNO devs seem to believe that Burgundy is an issue among the player base (read among their own wikitards without an ounce of creativity). I have a small snippet of a previous doc that someone has shared with me, however.

This information came at the same time as the Goring and space rework. Considering how Burgundy and its fans make the TNO leaders autistically screech I have a feeling that they're hiding this until it's replaced due to the knowing backlash it would face. Personally, I believe this is just a part of the restructuring away from Panzer, in an almost de-Stalinification level of bureaucratic larp coming from the team. I wouldn't be surprised if certain Russian warlords were next on the chopping block, but don't quote me on that.
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Sounds reasonable. What was the source of the leak?
 
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