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[nieuport17]

TNO is integrating Débrouillez-Vous, a submod that reworks a lot of if not all of Africa. This will include removing all content and adding skeleton content for the Congo. This is an internal leak.

Below is a map of the submod's Africa.

 

[Amerikaner Teddybär]

TNO is integrating Débrouillez-Vous, a submod that reworks a lot of if not all of Africa. This will include removing all content and adding skeleton content for the Congo. This is an internal leak.
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So how much of Africa has been done with this sub mod?

 

[Karakhalkin-Gol]

TNO is integrating Débrouillez-Vous, a submod that reworks a lot of if not all of Africa. This will include removing all content and adding skeleton content for the Congo. This is an internal leak.
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So no more South African war, no more Madagascar Rebellion, no more Angolan and Mozambique wars, no more Algerian war, no more Congo War, and no more West African War. Will anything be replacing those?

 

[nieuport17]

So how much of Africa has been done with this sub mod?

Content wise? Fuck if I know. This integration will probably not be happening for another year or two, maybe more.

Link to their discord.

https://discord.com/invite/j5PVyThw6p

Link to a reddit comment with all their teasers.

https://www.reddit.com/r/TNOmod/comments/1l15he7/comment/mvijt7e/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button

 

[Rome's rightful successor]

TNO is integrating Débrouillez-Vous, a submod that reworks a lot of if not all of Africa. This will include removing all content and adding skeleton content for the Congo. This is an internal leak.
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"Let's take out one of the few fun stuff in TNO like the south africa war and replace it with nothing."

 

[Happy Camper]

So no more South African war, no more Madagascar Rebellion, no more Angolan and Mozambique wars, no more Algerian war, no more Congo War, and no more West African War. Will anything be replacing those?

According to their own teasers: Irrelevant border skirmishes copy-pasted from Wikipedia inspired by real events where you likely won't have any impact other than maybe affecting who some tinpot dictator will be aligned with. And of course, no gameplay. Maybe you'll get to invest political power via the proxy war interface - if you're lucky, chud.

You can almost see the border changes if you bring out a magnifying glass. Sure beats the excitement levels of "Vietnam with Nazis and Rhodesians"?

 

[Caligura]

TNO is integrating Débrouillez-Vous, a submod that reworks a lot of if not all of Africa. This will include removing all content and adding skeleton content for the Congo. This is an internal leak.
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ngl it was retarded that they removed Atlantropa but then kept the Congo Lake.
At least have some symmetry and have both removed if they're going to with their gay-ass nu-TNO retcons.
I'd much rather have that than them butchering the Congo Lake lore.

 

[A Distant Northern Land]

Congo lake was retarded and made the South African war super tedious once you broke the front line and had to manually snake around 50 cities. However, replacing it with a Wikipedia copy and paste where they just sub out “Soviet-aligned” for “Nazi/Japan-aligned” and the only content is gonna be event popups about Hersey or Toyo Tires gassing villages for money, or 1 province wars with 0 supply, is going to be ass.

 

[NashSuvorov]

TNO is integrating Débrouillez-Vous, a submod that reworks a lot of if not all of Africa. This will include removing all content and adding skeleton content for the Congo. This is an internal leak.
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At this point, it is an improvement because Africa didn't matter anyway in TNO. WAW was just a TLM-style jerkoff fantasy against De Gaulle and the OFN, SAW didn't carry any weight despite involving half of Africa and the rest of Africa didn't even have anything to note aside from maybe the Iberia-Italy war in Algeria. It's pretty bad when resetting to OTL is an improvement on your mod.

 

[Karakhalkin-Gol]

@nieuport17 May you link the DV proposal here? Or at least, copy/paste it and put it in a document/pdf.

 

[foreman 89]

TNO is integrating Débrouillez-Vous, a submod that reworks a lot of if not all of Africa. This will include removing all content and adding skeleton content for the Congo. This is an internal leak.
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Below is a map of the submod's Africa.
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I'm sceptical of this due to discord being wrong about the Bull and Crow update being delayed. We should wait until it's announced or hinted at on reddit or the official discord from a mod.

 

[foreman 89]

So no more South African war, no more Madagascar Rebellion, no more Angolan and Mozambique wars, no more Algerian war, no more Congo War, and no more West African War. Will anything be replacing those?

The South African war could still happen but at a much smaller scale if not just a civil war. Madagascar rebellion can still happen aswell as wars in Angola, Congo and Mozambique. The West African war could probably be changed to a mass rebellion against French colonial rule.

 

[foreman 89]

Congo lake was retarded and made the South African war super tedious once you broke the front line and had to manually snake around 50 cities. However, replacing it with a Wikipedia copy and paste where they just sub out “Soviet-aligned” for “Nazi/Japan-aligned” and the only content is gonna be event popups about Hersey or Toyo Tires gassing villages for money, or 1 province wars with 0 supply, is going to be ass.

Idk if this guy is affiliated with this submod, but he made a good write up series for Africa - https://www.reddit.com/r/TNOmod/comments/158asu9/africa_rework_proposal_final_the_fate_of_africa/

 

[nieuport17]

I'm sceptical of this due to discord being wrong about the Bull and Crow update being delayed. We should wait until it's announced or hinted at on reddit or the official discord from a mod.

The Crow and Bull update delay was a joke I'm pretty sure, if you're talking about the one before release. Other than that, I think the update was delayed for a few months IF my memory serves me correctly.

 

[nieuport17]

@nieuport17 May you link the DV proposal here? Or at least, copy/paste it and put it in a document/pdf.

I do not have it sadly.

 

[Spanish Chud]

I've been trying out the mod and it's neat but I cannot stand how convoluted it is
I've been trying to flip fascist as America and the devs could have put a focus branch dedicated to the NPP with a sub-branch to get yockey BUT NOOOOO you need to look up a online guide win some wars but lose some hope that your allies don't rape south africa in 2 seconds and just bad RNG fucking you up
Also random russian warlord has 2 billion focuses but france and moscow have nothing

 

[EpicGamerMoment]

france and moscow have nothing

Both were on the verge of release but got reworked from scratch like 5 times.

 

[Spanish Chud]

Both were on the verge of release but got remade from scratch like 5 times

why?
are they stupid

 

[EpicGamerMoment]

why?
are they stupid

TNO devs are petulant children who are willing to destroy months, if not years, of work because they want their own ideas implemented instead.

 

[Happy Camper]

TNO devs are petulant children who are willing to destroy months, if not years, of work because they want their own ideas implemented instead.

A lot of it is reworks bleeding into other tags. All of America, Germany and Japan are being reworked. Just imagine if KR one day decided to remove Black Monday and try and guess how many focus trees that would invalidate overnight.