Plagued /r/TNOmod and the Reddit HOI4 modding community - When a subreddit for a video game mod turns to utter insanity

[Breadbassket]

Hah, I actually used the same site for some research which is how I found this photo of Heider.
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Reinhard's brother was named Heinz. After Reinhard died, he received his brother's files and is believed to have been so shocked by their contents that he helped a few people escape extermination.

Also, Reinhard looked like a cartoon character. I skimmed through his wife's memoir and he looks hilariously uncanny in every photo. Take a look:

His wedding:
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With his family:
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With Himmler:
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With Karl Frank:
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With his wife:
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Have you fallen down the aquiline nose rabbit hole?

 

[DGRer]

Rosengerg and Mahler are already in the code, but are unused. The rest are in-game as generals.

Make a proper portrait of Heider Heydrich and I swear to you I will add Karl Schwab not only to post-Heydrich, but post-Speer and Post-Bormann as well.

I'm planning on making a video with Rises Again, is Heydrich the path you'd recommend to show off what your mod is about?

 

[Nigger Cobson]

I will always find it hilarious that seemingly the most stable mod team is a bunch of bronys.

It is because Hoi4 autism and brony autism combined to make an autism overflow, meaning that the level of autism actually returns back to 0, leading to no drama.

they should just become a suzerain mod at this point

kill election game niggers, behead election game niggers

Honestly I like election games, it’s just that the fan base for stuff like Red Autumn and the Campaign Trail seems to be absolutely cancerous and full of communists and trannies like nu-TNO and nu-Kaiserreich for whatever reason. You would expect commies of all people to not like electoral processes given that that is a major part of their political philosophy, but alas.

 

[foreman 89]

Speidel's path is fully coded. Should take you to about 1972 or so, not counting the small Vengeance War tree. Here are the possible Fuhrer's you can get aside from Speidel. No unique content for them yet, I am afraid.
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I have also decided what I want to do with Schroener. He'll be an even worse version of Goering who leaves everything in ruins (including Germany itself) and damns the world to a century of tyranny, madness, and bloodshed. And that's how you'll get the DSR.

How is this mod/redux you guys are developing going to play? A lot of users on here have this notion that HOI should be purely military with diplomacy and internal politics more or less disregarded ( a silly notion imo), if you are planning on making the mod more like their vision, how will that translate in TNO's cold war/MAD setting? Will there be any politics or diplomacy at all?

 

[winderson_silva]

However their heckin nigger commies should be simps for Japan. I

Hell W.E.B. Dubois simped Japan so hard he was invinted to Manchuria, and back to the US he just went "actually the japanese are opressing these people by pure accident, they just dont know the language of the chinese people well", keeping it even as other commies became temporary pro US after Barbarosa.

 

[Sooty Soot]

I'm planning on making a video with Rises Again, is Heydrich the path you'd recommend to show off what your mod is about?

Sir I am humbly respectfully kindly requesting please do not the powerleveling and do not use your woice in the wideo Sir.. Thank u

 

[Computer God Autism]

You would expect commies of all people to not like electoral processes given that that is a major part of their political philosophy, but alas.

Reddit communists masturbate over procedural electoral processes. The idea of democracy (tm) makes them feel moral.

 

[Caligura]

I'm planning on making a video with Rises Again, is Heydrich the path you'd recommend to show off what your mod is about?

Use a Donald Trump voice changer but only speak exactly like how Trump does.

 

[ATPH]

Honestly I like election games, it’s just that the fan base for stuff like Red Autumn and the Campaign Trail seems to be absolutely cancerous and full of communists and trannies like nu-TNO and nu-Kaiserreich for whatever reason. You would expect commies of all people to not like electoral processes given that that is a major part of their political philosophy, but alas.

Yeah I'm in the same boat I even quite like games like suzerain but there's something about democratic political sims that draw leftists like a moth to a flame. Funny enough one of my close friends who's quite left actually really enjoys TNO's new content being essentially being an OTL politics sim with a Nazi coat of paint but he does bemoan the gutting of content to be replaced with nothing in fairness.

 

[SAC]

the Campaign Trail seems to be absolutely cancerous and full of communists and trannies

TCT has a very toxic community, which is to be expected with the types it attracts. If I had to guess, most libs enjoy TCT because they get to play as their epic wholesome chungus politicians like RFK and Hubert Humphrey or something while owning evil chuds like Nixon.

From looking at the VotePig doc I recognised a few names from TCT there and it’s fairly obvious that their biases are translated into their representations of the characters, especially with Nixon and Schlafy.

 

[Caligura]

TCT has a very toxic community, which is to be expected with the types it attracts. If I had to guess, most libs enjoy TCT because they get to play as their epic wholesome chungus politicians like RFK and Hubert Humphrey or something while owning evil chuds like Nixon.

From looking at the VotePig doc I recognised a few names from TCT there and it’s fairly obvious that their biases are translated into their representations of the characters, especially with Nixon and Schlafy.

I just love their hyperfixation on Schalfy because in their minds, "oh, if we cast the most far-right candidate who isn't Yockey as a woman, that'll OWN those INCEL CHUDS because they hate women" lol

Despite the fact that a lot of TrooNOs are the result of the good ol' incel-to-troon pipeline.

 

[GoodWinSon]

I'm planning on making a video with Rises Again, is Heydrich the path you'd recommend to show off what your mod is about?

Heydrich is a bit rough I will admit, though for my first addition to 1972-1982 content, I am quite proud of it. Play with the latest version of the git. It will have the least amount of bugs and Russia has some ai adjustments that should make them more interesting to fight. Feedback would be nice, my last Heydrich test playthrough was before I added the Vengeance War.

You would expect commies of all people to not like electoral processes given that that is a major part of their political philosophy, but alas.

TRVE AND HONEST revolutionaries know that BOURGEOIS "DEMOCRACY" would never allow revolution through the ballot! But do you really expect modern socialists to know anything about socialism?

How is this mod/redux you guys are developing going to play? A lot of users on here have this notion that HOI should be purely military with diplomacy and internal politics more or less disregarded ( a silly notion imo), if you are planning on making the mod more like their vision, how will that translate in TNO's cold war/MAD setting? Will there be any politics or diplomacy at all?

I mean I'm just building off old TNO so my content isn't really more or less complex than what's already in the game. I guess I'm adding more wars? But the mod was already building to the Vengeance War and the Sino-Japanese war. I suppose my plan for the SA war will be a different, but that's because SA is basically a blank slate at the moment.

 

[DGRer]

Heydrich is a bit rough I will admit, though for my first addition to 1972-1982 content, I am quite proud of it. Play with the latest version of the git. It will have the least amount of bugs and Russia has some ai adjustments that should make them more interesting to fight. Feedback would be nice, my last Heydrich test playthrough was before I added the Vengeance War.

TRVE AND HONEST revolutionaries know that BOURGEOIS "DEMOCRACY" would never allow revolution through the ballot! But do you really expect modern socialists to know anything about socialism?

I mean I'm just building off old TNO so my content isn't really more or less complex than what's already in the game. I guess I'm adding more wars? But the mod was already building to the Vengeance War and the Sino-Japanese war. I suppose my plan for the SA war will be a different, but that's because SA is basically a blank slate at the moment.

Thank you. I'll probably try it out and record this weekend and edit early next week, hopefully can get it up by next Friday at the latest.

 

[Lady Grinning Soul]

I’m not 100% sure, but I think the problem is China?

During my last TFR run the game was running insanely slowly during the late game. Tag switched over to China they had something insane, something like 1500 units. Deleted those and my game was back to running normally.

This may have been fixed in some recent releases, but mods really need division limiters by default I think.

TfR seems to spit units out at random. Lest we forget Dugun magically summoning like seven thousand units for some reason

 

[Lady Grinning Soul]

they should just become a suzerain mod at this point

I mean. Unironically.

The issue with making a mod in the HoI4 engine of all things is either you go with the grain and make a HoI4 mod (I;E Kaiserredux, TFR, Goring's Wild Ride) or you constantly fight against it leading to the question of 'why make it in HoI4?'.

Going against the grain has resulted in a situation where half the fanbase of the mod hates the HoI4 mechanics that exist for little reason in TNO and the other half wish those features were more prominent.

While I don't think Suzerain has a modding scene or even the capability to handle it, there are other engines that are no doubt easier to code in than Clausewitz, Twine is rather simple from what I've been told.

 

[Computer God Autism]

TfR seems to spit units out at random. Lest we forget Dugun magically summoning like seven thousand units for some reason

Dugin is just an astral projection of Saruman, which is subtle commentary on the part of TFR devs about how Russians really are just orcs that can be spawned from the earth

 

[Rome's rightful successor]

I'm not into any of this autistic crap but I am into watching old news reports on Youtube. Well well well, look what the algorithm shat out for me

Lots of AI dreck from the same channel mostly about TNO.

Epentibi was actually one of the first AI content creators and a pioneer in in ai video making.

 

[Lady Grinning Soul]

https://files.catbox.moe/cdag1w.pdf - Vote Pig, the US rework proposal. Read all about this hot new TCT mod.

I've only skimmed it, but I like the idea of Nixon somehow bullshitting out four terms if you win everything as him, I presume it ends with him finding out how to cut off his own head and live forever.

Gus Hall being a reverse-Speer is somewhat interesting. None of this will be seen until like, 2083 if that but ehh.
I mean if I was given the keys, I'd do some silly shit like Hunter S. Thompson bungling into an Aspen County Sheriff win and going "...If Nixon can be President, so can I."

I do admittedly dislike that there isn't any fascist contenders in the race. I do think Yocky's proto-Dugin/nazbol esque ideology wouldn't exist in a nazi victory timeline (something I think is true with quite a few nazi groups today) but there are surely other nutjobs to choose from, Rockwell is a cliche but there are those that exploded out of his party once he died, William Luther Pierce, Tommasi of James Mason unrequited gay love fame was offered $5,000 to get Wallace voters to support Nixon. Matt Koehl, etc etc. There are quite a few kooks and cranks of the time to choose from.

In any alternative history scenario, a certain amount of leeway should be permitted. Obviously, everyone draws that line differently. I personally draw it just short of 'zombies rise from the dead' and or other straight-up fantastical elements. Unless it *is* a zombie story or some sort.

 

[Merry]

"Mr. President a new Speer hoodie has hit the HoI4 community" (A)

Spoiler: Bonus

 

[Rome's rightful successor]

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"Mr. President a new Speer hoodie has hit the HoI4 community" (A)

Spoiler: Bonus

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