Plagued /r/TNOmod and the Reddit HOI4 modding community - When a subreddit for a video game mod turns to utter insanity

I forgot about that. 1960s America should be much richer than the Axis powers since it has a more functional economic system and doesn't have to hold down massive conquests with its army. Even real world West Germany and Japan which didn't have the Axis corruption and overextension problems had much smaller economies.

The mod developers just really hate America I guess. They also really love Russia. Sablin's libsoc USSR can apparently produce a great power level economy in the ruins of 1970s Siberia.
A America with a 25%-50% poverty rate in spite of having a more functional economic system than Germoney and Japan is probably a retarded critique against capitalism.
Also, they said 70's content would criticize America's actions in the Cold War, I thought they would just make anything morally justifiable cuz they are fighting against literal nazis but no they need their Anarcho-peepeepoopooism fantasy.
 
A America with a 25%-50% poverty rate in spite of having a more functional economic system than Germoney and Japan is probably a retarded critique against capitalism.
Also, they said 70's content would criticize America's actions in the Cold War, I thought they would just make anything morally justifiable cuz they are fighting against literal nazis but no they need their Anarcho-peepeepoopooism fantasy.
Panzer once said that if America’s rivals weren’t literal Nazis and Imperial Japanese they’d be the bad guys lol


what do you expect out of lefty troons?
I feel like there are two types of TNO developers. The super liberals and the anarcho-commies. The super libs developed Germany and the Anarcho-Commies developed America
 
A America with a 25%-50% poverty rate in spite of having a more functional economic system than Germoney and Japan is probably a retarded critique against capitalism.
Also, they said 70's content would criticize America's actions in the Cold War, I thought they would just make anything morally justifiable cuz they are fighting against literal nazis but no they need their Anarcho-peepeepoopooism fantasy.
They could have done a hilarious twist storyline where a left wing US government tries to help Joao Goulart stop the coup by Castelo Branco and Plinio Salgado supported by Germany. Salgado, being a non-racist fascist, would be an entertaining character. Sadly these retards added a bunch of irrelevant anarchist warlords to Russia instead of doing literally anything with South America.

Panzer once said that if America’s rivals weren’t literal Nazis and Imperial Japanese they’d be the bad guys lol



I feel like there are two types of TNO developers. The super liberals and the anarcho-commies. The super libs developed Germany and the Anarcho-Commies developed America
I've noticed that the ultra-left path for Germany (Meinhof) isn't idolised in the way that the ancoms are in Russia. While I don't agree with how the Germany storyline was written either, it's in some ways less unhinged than other parts of the world.
 
A America with a 25%-50% poverty rate in spite of having a more functional economic system than Germoney and Japan is probably a retarded critique against capitalism.
Also, they said 70's content would criticize America's actions in the Cold War, I thought they would just make anything morally justifiable cuz they are fighting against literal nazis but no they need their Anarcho-peepeepoopooism fantasy.
USA never elected F. D. Roosevelt So thats why USA was stuck in Great Depression far longer than IRL . IDK enough about USA to say it is just lefty fantasy or if realistic.
Speaking of which in USSR Nikolaj Bukharin won power struggle and continued previous Soviet ecomomic policy that worked pretty well.
Peasants got land from goverment and after that they were left alone do what they wanted. With cities buying their crops. And selling them what they needed.
Irl this system was destroyed by Stalin because muh Capitalism. And replaced by collective farms .Creating such nice things like holdomor.
 
USA never elected F. D. Roosevelt So thats why USA was stuck in Great Depression far longer than IRL . IDK enough about USA to say it is just lefty fantasy or if realistic.
Speaking of which in USSR Nikolaj Bukharin won power struggle and continued previous Soviet ecomomic policy that worked pretty well.
Peasants got land from goverment and after that they were left alone do what they wanted. With cities buying their crops. And selling them what they needed.
Irl this system was destroyed by Stalin because muh Capitalism. And replaced by collective farms .Creating such nice things like holdomor.
Definitely left wing exaggeration, although participation in WW2 helped get the USA out of the depression so recovery would have been a bit slower without that. At any rate the 1930s depression wouldn't still be going on 30 years later in the 1960s.
 
His twitter is actually still active
That's the community I mentioned earlier that skylar used to be part of, the mapping community. It's maybe as autistic as the HOI4 community. Luka was a homophobe fat vietnamese kid, he wasn't particularly special but i remember trolling him with alt accounts and he used to have breakdowns over the dumbest shit
He was one of the dozen people who used to have a crush on agatha. I know someone who has seen agatha's face (I don't have it though) and she's apparently a real girl according to them but i'm not sure
EDIT: I just remembered something weird about Luka, he had some porn hard drive he shared with us that had hundreds of hentai images including furry stuff, futa, loli, and gore
hey you, what exactly can you tell me about Agatha, i know from herself that she's a real girl, (i know it cuz the woodstock server and she instited that she wasn't trans, so i trust her), but what exactly are her interactions with the HOI4 community ? I know her because of TWR where she seems the only non-degenerate member and Wood server, what did she do exactly with Skylar the pedo ? And why did people had a crush on her ?

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19-yr-old woman grooming kids. I wonder who the fuck is he talking about?
According to his Steam profile he lives in HK, and Hammy was known to live there.

Good job Algerian. I legitimately hope your COVID kills you, you worthless pedo defending piece of shit.

Reminder for those who don't get it: AG defended Hammy in the past and continues to do so.
what did AG do exactly ? Can you redpill me on it
 
I'm not sure how global thermonuclear war is pussying out. The total opposite, really.

What I would like to see, though, is tactical nuclear weapons and a full WMD system with a ladder of escalation. Maybe post-apocalyptic gameplay even.
Pussying out is probably the wrong way of putting it. It's moreso they're obsessed with preserving the precious plot, to the point that you can't even fight and win a WW3 because that would require actually letting people play the game as a war game.

TWR has its' own problems but at least you can rock up and fuck the krauts shit up

The WW3 ending the world thing was actually a big problem on release because of a bugged event where a diplomatic incident over a shrimp boat would lead to the end of human civilization almost invariably
 
Pussying out is probably the wrong way of putting it. It's moreso they're obsessed with preserving the precious plot, to the point that you can't even fight and win a WW3 because that would require actually letting people play the game as a war game.

TWR has its' own problems but at least you can rock up and fuck the krauts shit up

The WW3 ending the world thing was actually a big problem on release because of a bugged event where a diplomatic incident over a shrimp boat would lead to the end of human civilization almost invariably
It's a 1960s-1970s setting mod. If you think you could "win" a WW3 in that period you have a pretty messed up definition of winning. Blowing your enemies up with nukes in a fit of rage can be an option, but it's not 1940s era warfare by that point in time.
 
Pussying out is probably the wrong way of putting it. It's moreso they're obsessed with preserving the precious plot, to the point that you can't even fight and win a WW3 because that would require actually letting people play the game as a war game.

TWR has its' own problems but at least you can rock up and fuck the krauts shit up

The WW3 ending the world thing was actually a big problem on release because of a bugged event where a diplomatic incident over a shrimp boat would lead to the end of human civilization almost invariably
Of course its the fucking shrimp boat.
 
This reminds me of the dumb shit Millennium Dawn modern day mod which doesn't have nuclear weapons. This also means that it can't have a proper North Korea focus tree, because they can't have the WMD system they haven't been arsed to add to the game yet. Apparently giving Greece a focus tree was more important.

Any half decent cold war/modern day mod should have a full blown WMD console with target selection, counterforce and countervalue strikes, etc etc. Any major war between great powers should go kaboom in a few days at most.
 
It's a 1960s-1970s setting mod. If you think you could "win" a WW3 in that period you have a pretty messed up definition of winning. Blowing your enemies up with nukes in a fit of rage can be an option, but it's not 1940s era warfare by that point in time.
That's a fair point, although liberating Europe as a nuclear wasteland does seem like the kind of backhanded plot point TNO writers would come up with considering how much Panzer jerked off over Spec Ops: The Line
 
That's a fair point, although liberating Europe as a nuclear wasteland does seem like the kind of backhanded plot point TNO writers would come up with considering how much Panzer jerked off over Spec Ops: The Line
Post apocalypse gameplay is a genuinely interesting idea that won't be added. Fragmented nations could struggle to reunify and nations that weren't hit by any nukes (like South America) could suddenly end up as major powers.
 
Post apocalypse gameplay is a genuinely interesting idea that won't be added. Fragmented nations could struggle to reunify and nations that weren't hit by any nukes (like South America) could suddenly end up as major powers.
Yeah, there was briefly a mod floating around to cover TNO post apocalypse content but I believe it shut down
 
They could have done a hilarious twist storyline where a left wing US government tries to help Joao Goulart stop the coup by Castelo Branco and Plinio Salgado supported by Germany. Salgado, being a non-racist fascist, would be an entertaining character. Sadly these retards added a bunch of irrelevant anarchist warlords to Russia instead of doing literally anything with South America.


I've noticed that the ultra-left path for Germany (Meinhof) isn't idolised in the way that the ancoms are in Russia. While I don't agree with how the Germany storyline was written either, it's in some ways less unhinged than other parts of the world.
Panzer has mentioned before that a theme of TNO is that all forms of extremism are bad and Meinhof is a specific example of such. He has also apparently made good on laying down the hammer in the early days of the mod on extremists on their Reddit talking about how they can't wait to crush and oppress Germany. So it seems like he just has a very warped view of what political extremism is. With his focus being violence and oppression aimed towards opposing groups being political extremism in his mind. Less so to do with actual policies, especially if they don't deal in the aforementioned.
 
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Shame, that would have made the mod actually unique in showing the aftermath of WW3.
Unfortunately, speaking as someone who is part of the mod community, a lot of people start overhaul mods thinking "oh that'd be cool" and then grossly underestimate how much work stuff like Kaiserreich or TNO or the like require

The current Russian warlord content is about as close to a decently polished post-apocalyptic mod you can get if you don't like Fallout
 
Unfortunately, speaking as someone who is part of the mod community, a lot of people start overhaul mods thinking "oh that'd be cool" and then grossly underestimate how much work stuff like Kaiserreich or TNO or the like require

The current Russian warlord content is about as close to a decently polished post-apocalyptic mod you can get if you don't like Fallout
Ideally I'd want something a bit more grounded where you don't get a bunch of Siberian anarchists uniting the whole of Russia and making it into a superpower. The post-apocalypse states should be fairly weak and poor and with comparatively normal governments (mostly despots or military rulers with the odd democratic council).

Magadan in particular annoys me. A small town with no road access unifies Russia.
 
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