Plagued /r/TNOmod and the Reddit HOI4 modding community - When a subreddit for a video game mod turns to utter insanity

[CascadiaLifter]

ngl, Khmer Rouge Germany would be kinda based. (in the mod)
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[Bat'Ko the Radek]

What's with Alt hist ww2 where Germany won ww2 fetishization with Russia or USSR coming out on top just like our timeline?
Is it because of "Oh noz theirz peoplez were killed,enslaved and oppressed so that's theyz should enact revenge to those Teuton*c c*cks and become a superpooer just like in real world"
That's just makes me sick, you literally bring a historical framework from our world with different tweaks.
Also, Russia being a 3rd World Sh*thole who is struggling externally and internally would be also interesting to see rather than USSR under Stalin after WW2 from our timeline 2.0.

 

[Corpun]

The Lategame Bormann Tree is fucking retarded. Like somehow everyone from the Catholic and Lutheran Church to Conservatives and Libreals and Militarists WW2 Heroes Hans Spiedel and most of the Reich's Intelligence Community are apart of a July Coup like event and suddenly 2nd Night of the Long Knives and what the vents read as a Mini Civil War with Wehrmacht units battling in the streets. And order restored and he can't do a fucking simple investigation into college communist groups.

Yeah it is absolutely retarded and feels like cognitive dissoanance between several different writers. A basic flow chart would've made any storyline in the various countries flow naturally. It's ridiculous how bizarre late game Bormann is, everything is going fine until the RAF kidnaps (Not von Ribbentrob, some other high ranking diplomat I forget) and his wife, give BS demands and a deadline. You can't change fate in any way and it results in their deaths. Same goes for the 2NOLK, it's either Bormann wins with their stupid dismantlement GUI and can't win the loyalty of people like Spiedel who the devs even describe as a tow the line kind of guy, his own cabinet, or Schorner if he wasn't prior purged with Spiedel's aid. All because Bormann turns into a paranoid sailor who decides swearing every sentence and murdering everyone will help him. Same thing with Speer, one minute he is fine, next he is a rambling old man proclaiming Heydrich was right all along because the Slave Revolt happens.

Even a guy on reddit made a post saying it makes no sense, all the canon american presidents are liberals and they had absolutly no reason to prefer Bormann to Zukhov

That may have been my post, or someone else. I posted my pst on their lore a while back, should be one of my first posts.

Yea the TNO Canon Lore is such good writing that no NPP candidates are elected president. And Russia having a population of less than a 100 Million (70 Mil If I am correct) is going to Industrialize, Modernize and have a military capable of taking on the Reich. Oh nevermind the Oil Crisis just doesn't affect Russia even though their Central Asian Natural Gas hasn't been developed, Siberian Oil TOTALLY unscathed by SEVERAL unification wars, and the Cacauses under German control. And Post Soviet Brain Drain.

Even in TNO they have to circlejerk that America is still a two-party system between the Rs and Ds. Never mind playing LBJ (Their canon choice) effectively kills the R-Ds.

 

[CascadiaLifter]

People justify with "but germany will have a civil war/stagnation", even if the german are retarded enough to keep the civil war while being attacked by a common enemy, russia just finished not one, not 2, but dozens of civil wars, 20 years of bombing and etc, to the point where now germany have more people than russia and full superiority in military and tech.
Doesn't matter if Zukhov is a genious or a retarded, one thing is for sure: he isn't a magician, he can't grow tanks on trees and wars between over 40 states will fuck the country.
If germany is 80's USSR, a reunited russia will be 90's Congo.

facts. They forget that most of Russia's Population Centers are under German Control. And the Russian Population is at the same as it was in the 1840's. Also Zhukov has to deal with the mirad of Ideologies in his conquered lands, standardization of equipment, doctrines and codes. And you think that the ethnic minorities that just had a taste of freedom are gonna accept being invaded? He's going to have to unite everyone from Onega Karelian Anti Communist Death Squads to monarchists to Syndicalists to Monarchists. And rebuild Industry which has been decimated for about 30+ years of Warfare.

 

[Corpun]

Double post, sorry.

ngl, Khmer Rouge Germany would be kinda based. (in the mod)
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Seeing some tankies unironically defend the Khmer Rogue and Pol Pot in particular I wouldn't be surprised if they're whitewashed as anti-Japanese resistance who only murder Japanese civilians.

People justify with "but germany will have a civil war/stagnation", even if the german are retarded enough to keep the civil war while being attacked by a common enemy, russia just finished not one, not 2, but dozens of civil wars, 20 years of bombing and etc, to the point where now germany have more people than russia and full superiority in military and tech.
Doesn't matter if Zukhov is a genious or a retarded, one thing is for sure: he isn't a magician, he can't grow tanks on trees and wars between over 40 states will fuck the country.
If germany is 80's USSR, a reunited russia will be 90's Congo.

Wasn't Zhukov a fairly mediocre general IRL? I know Voroshilov was a absolute mess yet in TNO he successfully almost pushed the Germans to Moscow in the 50s before the West Russian Front collapsed. Even in-game this Russia will destroy the Soviets isn't done well. A player Russia will be outnumbered by Germany and it's RKs in terms of divisions and produced equipment tenfold unless you provide some BS production buff to whatever Russian state unified the country.

What's with Alt hist ww2 where Germany won ww2 fetishization with Russia or USSR coming out on top just like our timeline?
Is it because of "Oh noz theirz peoplez were killed,enslaved and oppressed so that's theyz should enact revenge to those Teuton*c c*cks and become a superpooer just like in real world"
That's just makes me sick, you literally bring a historical framework from our world with different tweaks.
Also, Russia being a 3rd World Sh*thole who is struggling externally and internally would be also interesting to see rather than USSR under Stalin after WW2 from our timeline 2.0.

TWR kinda fills that gap from my understanding. Russia isn't a total shithole but the country is disunified and the USSR is fairly week early on. It does build-up though and doesn't stay a basic rump state for long.

 

[CascadiaLifter]

Yeah it is absolutely retarded and feels like cognitive dissoanance between several different writers. A basic flow chart would've made any storyline in the various countries flow naturally. It's ridiculous how bizarre late game Bormann is, everything is going fine until the RAF kidnaps (Not von Ribbentrob, some other high ranking diplomat I forget) and his wife, give BS demands and a deadline. You can't change fate in any way and it results in their deaths. Same goes for the 2NOLK, it's either Bormann wins with their stupid dismantlement GUI and can't win the loyalty of people like Spiedel who the devs even describe as a tow the line kind of guy, his own cabinet, or Schorner if he wasn't prior purged with Spiedel's aid. All because Bormann turns into a paranoid sailor who decides swearing every sentence and murdering everyone will help him. Same thing with Speer, one minute he is fine, next he is a rambling old man proclaiming Heydrich was right all along because the Slave Revolt happens.

That may have been my post, or someone else. I posted my pst on their lore a while back, should be one of my first posts.

Even in TNO they have to circlejerk that America is still a two-party system between the Rs and Ds. Never mind playing LBJ (Their canon choice) effectively kills the R-Ds.

Like the Last Bormann Tree is literally: Le Epic Pawnage of Christ Cucks, Computers, Space Station and Mars Landing preparation? than after getting massive GDP boosts it's just boom. The Foreign Minister is kidnaped and the Reich is falling apart. And the fucking Speer tree is the same levels of retardation if not worse. Because Speer's version of the CIA o
is actually efficent. But somehow out of nowhere Will Brandt is able to have a big chungus wholesome 100 moment and have all of the provinces (including the German Ethnic Majority regions) rise up. Like bruh in our timeline, Poles and Ukrainians had race wars in concentration camps. Like the OUN and Polish resistance probably killed more civilians in Galicia than the SS.

 

[Gone Ham]

Did someone say TWR

Also, the circumstances surrounding the creation and the design of the WTC wouldn't have existed in TNO anyway.

 

[winderson_silva]

But hey, the SBA can build nuclear weapons literally by going house to house and asking people, to quote TVtropes:

• Speaking of the last one, a true libertarian socialist anarchic Russian Free Territory can crowdfund and crowddesign nukes. And it works, going door to door, consulting everyone you meet until you figure out how to make a nuclear missile, inviting everyone to join in communal labor. It's named "Osvoboditel", "Emancipator" in Russian.

Stupid americans, building the biggest buildings in the planet, needing complexes whose total combinated area was bigger than the city of Dresden and speding over 1.6 billion kWhs to produce 50 pounds of U-235, which was about 100 times the energy of the bomb itself. All they needed was to ask random people in the middle of nowhere, and the ghost of Bakhunin himself will build a revelant arsenal.
How many nuclear scientists survived those 20 years and kept living on russia? Besides you need high level infraestructure, you can put all scientists in the world in a desert island and they won't make a toaster, they're scientists, not x-men.

 

[CascadiaLifter]

But hey, the SBA can build nuclear weapons literally by going house to house and asking people, to quote TVtropes:

• Speaking of the last one, a true libertarian socialist anarchic Russian Free Territory can crowdfund and crowddesign nukes. And it works, going door to door, consulting everyone you meet until you figure out how to make a nuclear missile, inviting everyone to join in communal labor. It's named "Osvoboditel", "Emancipator" in Russian.

Stupid americans, building the biggest buildings in the planet, needing complexes whose total combinated area was bigger than the city of Dresden and speding over 1.6 billion kWhs to produce 50 pounds of U-235, which was about 100 times the energy of the bomb itself. All they needed was to ask random people in the middle of nowhere, and the ghost of Bakhunin himself will build a revelant arsenal.
How many nuclear scientists survived those 20 years and kept living on russia? Besides you need high level infraestructure, you can put all scientists in the world in a desert island and they won't make a toaster, they're scientists, not x-men.

Wait are you fucking serious. That has to be a shitpost.

 

[Randall Fragg]

If I was tabby developer, Id have him be an autocratic russian nationalist that has monarchist undertones , not some scatterbrain who thinks that alex is still alive.

But Mr. Taboritsky's Wild Ride is fun as hell for how dystopian it is. "Kill the subhumans so a dead kid will come back" is hilarious.

 

[Gone Ham]

But hey, the SBA can build nuclear weapons literally by going house to house and asking people, to quote TVtropes:

• Speaking of the last one, a true libertarian socialist anarchic Russian Free Territory can crowdfund and crowddesign nukes. And it works, going door to door, consulting everyone you meet until you figure out how to make a nuclear missile, inviting everyone to join in communal labor. It's named "Osvoboditel", "Emancipator" in Russian.

Stupid americans, building the biggest buildings in the planet, needing complexes whose total combinated area was bigger than the city of Dresden and speding over 1.6 billion kWhs to produce 50 pounds of U-235, which was about 100 times the energy of the bomb itself. All they needed was to ask random people in the middle of nowhere, and the ghost of Bakhunin himself will build a revelant arsenal.
How many nuclear scientists survived those 20 years and kept living on russia? Besides you need high level infraestructure, you can put all scientists in the world in a desert island and they won't make a toaster, they're scientists, not x-men.

It just works
-Panzer, Pacifica, and the rest of the TNO team

 

[winderson_silva]

Seeing some tankies unironically defend the Khmer Rogue and Pol Pot in particular I wouldn't be surprised if they're whitewashed as anti-Japanese resistance who only murder Japanese civilians.

Wasn't Zhukov a fairly mediocre general IRL?

Most people who defend Pot just say the old "it was all american propaganda" and that any commie who desagree is a "counter revoluctionary", the best one i saw was a nazbol who said "Francisco Macías Nguema did the same thing and no one say he was a CIA puppet". The commies who desagree are the "muh attacked vietnam", despite Vietnam backstabing the Khmer by alling with Sihanouk and later wanting to make all of former indochina their puppet, but hey this can't be real because the viet are literal angels.
Doesn't really matter if Zukhov was good or mediocre, not even a revived Alexander will make a miracle to win the Second West Russian War

 

[Karakhalkin-Gol]

Its comical how many SS warlords there are in any Heydreich playthrough, i would post a picture of them all, but I can't find any ATM.

 

[winderson_silva]

Wait are you fucking serious. That has to be a shitpost.

No, to quote tvtropes again:
Yuri can attempt to crowdsource nuclear weapons development rather than "centralizing" it with scientists, whereby he aims to create nukes from the collective knowledge of the people at less monetary cost than if it was left to professionals. Unlike some of the other REALLY GOOD IDEAS featured in the mod, this can actually pay off against all odds, although there's a non-negligible chance it will result in catastrophe while the weapon is being transported.
Of course it can explode, the guy is making the bomb cheaper and without professionals, it would be 99% of chance of exploding like a dirty bomb and irradiating the immediate area and 1% of actually working.
Besides, i readed that the only other which can build nukes is the HRE, yes, funny clock man, who persecute intelectuals, will make one of the most complex things in the planet. Maybe Alexei blesses the bomb.

 

[Bat'Ko the Radek]

No, to quote tvtropes again:
Yuri can attempt to crowdsource nuclear weapons development rather than "centralizing" it with scientists, whereby he aims to create nukes from the collective knowledge of the people at less monetary cost than if it was left to professionals. Unlike some of the other REALLY GOOD IDEAS featured in the mod, this can actually pay off against all odds, although there's a non-negligible chance it will result in catastrophe while the weapon is being transported.
Of course it can explode, the guy is making the bomb cheaper and without professionals, it would be 99% of chance of exploding like a dirty bomb and irradiating the immediate area and 1% of actually working.
Besides, i readed that the only other which can build nukes is the HRE, yes, funny clock man, who persecute intelectuals, will make one of the most complex things in the planet. Maybe Alexei blesses the bomb.

Horrifying

 

[winderson_silva]

ngl, Khmer Rouge Germany would be kinda based. (in the mod)
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MFW when i see someone using gl@sses.
But it won't work, a commie can't be that evil in this mod and the devs are tired of people asking for bursys, so they won't have a choice.

 

[Jaromar]

COMMUNAL NUCLEAR BOMBS. NO MORE MCNUKES.

 

[Karakhalkin-Gol]

how long do yall think it'll be when the devs go full pinko

 

[CascadiaLifter]

COMMUNAL NUCLEAR BOMBS. NO MORE MCNUKES.

Libertarian Unity Nukes

 

[Regenbogen]

Sounds like a personal problem,

This entire tranny farm is dedicated to personal problems not to mention any actual discussion about the childfuckers is dead since they were defeated and this thread became a TNO general