Plagued /r/TNOmod and the Reddit HOI4 modding community - When a subreddit for a video game mod turns to utter insanity

  • 🔧 At about Midnight EST I am going to completely fuck up the site trying to fix something.
How come we've got two axis victory mods for HoI4 and they both have autistic lead devs who have their personal canon where it just returns to Soviet Russia vs US, but more gay?
Because Social Democrat Panzer and the Neoliberal Hapa from TWR cannot stomach the thought that a victorious Third Reich would be more powerful than the USSR and probably the USA as well so they need to strawman in some dumb shit to magically cripple them after WW2.
 
It's okay fren, you can have a post-WW2 order with a 2nd Cold War that takes place in 2010 with a rising Canada against a declining Soviet Union where you can elect Donald Trump as Prime Minister or declare a Eurasian Empire and replace the Soviet Union with the Tsardom and crown Valdimer Putin. All while Nazbol Bernie Sanders and Bill Gates struggle against each other to reform the United States of America in their vision. That is if the Red World fanfork doesn't get overrun.
Speaking of Trump I am surprised the devs didn't shoehorn Trump or his dad in as FR-NPP or even Yockeyites. Who knows maybe if the 70s update ever come into existence they will shoehorn a power fantasy where the Trumps are arrested for not renting to black people and sentenced to life in prison while a young Slovenian immigrant women named Melania Knauss dates and marries a BIPOC Transbian.
 
The assassination of Alexander II was the biggest mistake in Russian history and more ironically he got assassinated by bunch of leftist reformists on the day he was about sign in more reforms, so in summery gg no re and good job
Anarchist moment. Even more tragic is his retard son thought the reforms were the cause of his death and went the other direction. Nicholas II was even worse off as he never wanted to even become Tsar but as the eldest son believed God appointed him to the duty. An interesting fact on Nicholas II is that he tried to give his children as normal an upbringing as possible and there is a large amount of what we now know as family photos and home videos of them playing like another children.

Frederick III of Germany is another tragic moment of history as his chain smoking led to his retard son Wilhelm II taking over way too soon.
 
Turtledove from what i've heard is really hit or miss. Most althis is overwanked twice-baked garbage and a lot of it tends to reuse the same point of divergence and tropes, which makes a lot of it cringeworthy and unoriginal. Red Flood and Red World are pretty nice though just by sheer virtue of insanity and i've yet to hear anything really bad about the people behind either. Yet.


Panzer really does deserves whatever happens to the mod that offends him, he spent the greater part of two years playing slave driver and taking all the credit and then has the audacity to complain when the very community and culture he allowed to develop bites him in the ass.
 
Turtledove from what i've heard is really hit or miss. Most althis is overwanked twice-baked garbage and a lot of it tends to reuse the same point of divergence and tropes, which makes a lot of it cringeworthy and unoriginal. Red Flood and Red World are pretty nice though just by sheer virtue of insanity and i've yet to hear anything really bad about the people behind either. Yet.


Panzer really does deserves whatever happens to the mod that offends him, he spent the greater part of two years playing slave driver and taking all the credit and then has the audacity to complain when the very community and culture he allowed to develop bites him in the ass.
Poonzer will become a full lolcow when he tries to do something entirely new under a different pseudonym but since lolcows suck at covering their tracks he will be found out and will react in autistic ways to it.
 
Poonzer will become a full lolcow when he tries to do something entirely new under a different pseudonym but since lolcows suck at covering their tracks he will be found out and will react in autistic ways to it.
He is trying to do something like that. There’s no way he doesn’t have a puppet account online to hide who he is.
 
"Since the team seems fairly intent to go in a completely different direction than what I wanted I imagine it's fine if I just speak of all the 'secret' lore."

Holy shit, he's absolutely seething. I honestly didn't expect the TNO devs to depanzerise so fast - it seems like the" Panzer was forced out" leaks are true after all, which is a huge surprise to me.
I'm very curious how Depanzerfication will end up working out for TNO. Since the mod is still dominated by radical lefties and Panzer genuinely did seem interested in balancing representation of ideologies and shit, just in his own twisted way. The idea of Germany's failstate being a revolving door of Furhers constantly getting killed sounds fucking hilarious, but in TNO it'd be ruined with walls of text talking about how stinky that is and how its all Facism's fault cause its Fascist. Panzers ideas are still so silly though, they aren't THAT stupid, they just don't hit home or feel like something that'd happen because he hitched his truck to Nazis being the enemy. Even with TNO 2 very clearly trying to distance itself from Nazis to focus on critizing America by poorly cutting and pasting their scummy real world actions into this completely different world. Just without the Nazis as a serious thing. I genuinely get the idea that Panzer only sees political extremism as killing and oppressing people and that everything else below that is fair game.

As for TNO itself, wanting to do away with a canon timeline and the theme of Fascism doomed to failure is huge. Those ideas were the driving force behind a lot of the worst shit in the mod and would have been in the mod. Of course there's still the massive bias and misrepresentation of characters and movements, I don't think TNO is suddenly saved. It's just kinda interesting to wonder how TNO will be now. Will it continue to be a political statement and become a political playground for the devs to add as many wholesome 100 Sablins as they want? Will it be modern Kaiserreich where they try to make it "realistic" by backpedaling on everything fun while playing favorites with their preferred flavour of their preferred ideologies?
 
I'm very curious how Depanzerfication will end up working out for TNO. Since the mod is still dominated by radical lefties and Panzer genuinely did seem interested in balancing representation of ideologies and shit, just in his own twisted way. The idea of Germany's failstate being a revolving door of Furhers constantly getting killed sounds fucking hilarious, but in TNO it'd be ruined with walls of text talking about how stinky that is and how its all Facism's fault cause its Fascist. Panzers ideas are still so silly though, they aren't THAT stupid, they just don't hit home or feel like something that'd happen because he hitched his truck to Nazis being the enemy. Even with TNO 2 very clearly trying to distance itself from Nazis to focus on critizing America by poorly cutting and pasting their scummy real world actions into this completely different world. Just without the Nazis as a serious thing. I genuinely get the idea that Panzer only sees political extremism as killing and oppressing people and that everything else below that is fair game.

As for TNO itself, wanting to do away with a canon timeline and the theme of Fascism doomed to failure is huge. Those ideas were the driving force behind a lot of the worst shit in the mod and would have been in the mod. Of course there's still the massive bias and misrepresentation of characters and movements, I don't think TNO is suddenly saved. It's just kinda interesting to wonder how TNO will be now. Will it continue to be a political statement and become a political playground for the devs to add as many wholesome 100 Sablins as they want? Will it be modern Kaiserreich where they try to make it "realistic" by backpedaling on everything fun while playing favorites with their preferred flavour of their preferred ideologies?
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Anarchist moment. Even more tragic is his retard son thought the reforms were the cause of his death and went the other direction. Nicholas II was even worse off as he never wanted to even become Tsar but as the eldest son believed God appointed him to the duty. An interesting fact on Nicholas II is that he tried to give his children as normal an upbringing as possible and there is a large amount of what we now know as family photos and home videos of them playing like another children.

Frederick III of Germany is another tragic moment of history as his chain smoking led to his retard son Wilhelm II taking over way too soon.

WW1 was one big tragedy for everyone involved, I actually felt sad when I read that Kaiser William and Tsar Nicholas (who were cousins) were really good friends since childhood kept sending letters to eachother after the war started pleading to the other to begin a ceacefire and stop the war. Of course all the international alliances in Europe made that cease fire a mere pipe dream and in the end William ended up becoming a mere puppet of the german military who essentially now ruled Germany like a military junta while in Russia Nicholas was just trying to achieve a glorious victory in order to restore hope and order to his crumbling empire and in order to do this he ordered many offensives against the germans, these offensives mostly ended in disaster due to poor planing, low morale and low supplies in the russian army; so now the image of Nicholas was reaching rock bottom so then the german military convinces/forces William to allow one angry russian man in exile known as Vladimir Lenin to return to Russia in order to insitage a revolution and knock the Russian Empire out of the war thus freeing all the troops in the east to come to the west and crush the Entente.
This would led to the Russian revolution wich lead to the Russian civil war wich lead to the deaths of millions and among them Nicholas and his family, back in the other War, the Great War, Germany lost and William was forced to abdicate and live in exile (I can't remember if this was a voluntary exile or not) and then see his Empire be dismantled.

William was now kaiser of a nothing and everything he tried to do ended up being meaningless, thanks to him his cousin and his family were dead and now all of Russia was under communist rule that would doom millions of innocents to their deaths.

WW1 might the most useless war ever fought, the losers lost their Empires and prestige along with impossible to pay reparations imposed on them by the victors making recovery something almost impossible, as for the victors their own empires were on the decline and most of them were now on the shadow of the newly ascended superpower, the USA. And that's without mentioning the loss of human life, the genocide or the political consequences wich still affects us negatevely to this day.

I don't know why I made this long ass post about WW1 fot this thread talking about a shitty mod fo a map-painting game, I think it's because I have only slept like 3 hours today.
 
Or you could have a operation where the target is for the US to bomb the damn dambusters style or send in frogmen to blow it up.
Iirc, the dev's justification is that despite in-game they keep saying "it's in bad state and will be destroyed if no one repairs", the dam suposedly is also resilient enough that it would require multiple atomic bombs to destroy it.
But the real reason is that the engine can't support filling the ocean in-game.

"The idea that someone as fucked up as Chikatilo can take over his own little bandit fiefdom with a raiding band of rapists and murderers serves nicely to show just how shitty Russia's situation is, alongside Dirlewanger. A lot of the warlord states are pretty terrible, but they're mostly run by people who had political/military backgrounds (People who could theoretically maybe hold a nation state together). The fact that this serial murderer can (try to) do the same thing really drives home the point that the collapse of Moskowien (While a significant blow to the Nazis) is still no better than being under occupation."
Also, if "haha funi" bad then whey they will remove all burgsys? Aryan Brotherhood? Commie or fascist USA?
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I don't know why I made this long ass post about WW1 fot this thread talking about a shitty mod fo a map-painting game, I think it's because I have only slept like 3 hours today.
everyone in this thread is an autistic retard to some extent so a paragraph about actual history is automatically one of the better things in here by default, though reading the backlog there are some truly, truly special sorts who've showed up here. I originally thought this thread would die out after a bit since it's just a retarded mod in a retarded corner of the internet but the fact that it's somehow reached 200 pages and has drawn in so many specials (not even counting the actual subjects of the thread!) is amazing to me.
 
s was reaching rock bottom so then the german military convinces/forces William to allow one angry russian man in exile known as Vladimir Lenin to return to Russia in order to insitage a revolution and knock the Russian Empire out of the war thus freeing all the troops in the east to come to the west and crush the Entente.
This would led to the Russian revolution wich lead to the Russian civil war wich lead to the deaths of millions and among them Nicholas and his family, back in the other War, the Great War, Germany lost and William was forced to abdicate and live in exile (I can't remember if this was a voluntary exile or not) and then see his Empire be dismantled.

William was now kaiser of a nothing and everything he tried to do ended up being meaningless, thanks to him his cousin and his family were dead and now all of Russia was under communist rule that would doom millions of innocents to their deaths.

WW1 might the most useless war ever fought, the losers lost their Empires and prestige along with impossible to pay reparations imposed on them by the victors making recovery something almost impos
WW1 was such a waste of a war, entire nations were destroyed, we are still suffering effects of it (See the shitshow that is the Middle-East for example), and it basically threw Eastern and Central Europe into political turmoil for the next decade or so. Insultingly, George V, a fellow cousin of Nicky and Willy, retracted his offer of asylum for the Romanovs after concerns of giving them refuge would start unrest in the UK. Never trust an Anglo.
 
WW1 was such a waste of a war, entire nations were destroyed, we are still suffering effects of it (See the shitshow that is the Middle-East for example), and it basically threw Eastern and Central Europe into political turmoil for the next decade or so. Insultingly, George V, a fellow cousin of Nicky and Willy, retracted his offer of asylum for the Romanovs after concerns of giving them refuge would start unrest in the UK. Never trust an Anglo.
the post war order was a complete farce, too: the Balkans were a complete mess of ethnicities stuck in the wrong country as usual, Germany was left far too strong but also punished really heavily making some sort of revenge shitfest inevitable even without Hitler doing his shit, the league of nations was a bad joke, the whole process alienated at least in part Italy (who got anglo'd) and Japan, the shitfest that was the soviet union was a thing now and every remaining great power was now stuck in a massive naval arms race on top of whatever damage the war had already done. It might have been less terrible if France actually had the political will to police after 1926 but they didn't and then the fucking g*rms decided some random art student who unironically thought DA JOOs were behind everything could actually run a country. Imagine dying for your country in WW1 just for it to be thrown away because the guys at the peace conferences were all retarded.
 
the post war order was a complete farce, too: the Balkans were a complete mess of ethnicities stuck in the wrong country as usual, Germany was left far too strong but also punished really heavily making some sort of revenge shitfest inevitable even without Hitler doing his shit, the league of nations was a bad joke, the whole process alienated at least in part Italy (who got anglo'd) and Japan, the shitfest that was the soviet union was a thing now and every remaining great power was now stuck in a massive naval arms race on top of whatever damage the war had already done. It might have been less terrible if France actually had the political will to police after 1926 but they didn't and then the fucking g*rms decided some random art student who unironically thought DA JOOs were behind everything could actually run a country. Imagine dying for your country in WW1 just for it to be thrown away because the guys at the peace conferences were all retarded.
Yeah, just a fucking mess of a war that never should've gotten as large as it did.

Back to HOI4, here is a now locked thread on r/Kaiserreich that received a lot of hate from the unironic syndies, including the anarkiddieI posted before.
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And no the comments below him are praising him and hating OP for being a crypto-Nazi monarchist reactionary buzzword buzzword buzzword.

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Oh no anyone who doesn't think cops are dirty Nazi pigs for pulling over a guy speeding is a bootlicker! I wish they'd get the revolution they LARP for to get shot by the boot they think will "liberate" them.
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And here is a retard who still thinks the British exiles are a bunch of stuffy aristocrats and not vast swaths of Britain's society ignoring the lore that the UoB is an authoritarian hellscape arresting liberals for being reactionaries.
 
Yeah, just a fucking mess of a war that never should've gotten as large as it did.

Back to HOI4, here is a now locked thread on r/Kaiserreich that received a lot of hate from the unironic syndies, including the anarkiddieI posted before.
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And no the comments below him are praising him and hating OP for being a crypto-Nazi monarchist reactionary buzzword buzzword buzzword.

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Oh no anyone who doesn't think cops are dirty Nazi pigs for pulling over a guy speeding is a bootlicker! I wish they'd get the revolution they LARP for to get shot by the boot they think will "liberate" them.
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And here is a retard who still thinks the British exiles are a bunch of stuffy aristocrats and not vast swaths of Britain's society ignoring the lore that the UoB is an authoritarian hellscape arresting liberals for being reactionaries.
My brain melted at all the autism. And this yet again reinforces my leaving of the hoi4 community
 
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