Race relations: Is it all the same?

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I don't know that much about race relations in my home country, but I can guarantee that gypsies are by far the most hated group. When we are little, our relatives and friends told us that we should stay away from gypsies because they might robe, beat or even kill you if you do something wrong with them (aka don't give them an euro when they ask you).
After the gypsies come the moors, younger people seems to be more sympathetic to them but still don't trust them either. Maybe it's just the seven centuries of occupation, but inside everyone there is a kind of chip that tell us that we should distrust them.
Black people are seen with pity because they often beg in the supermarkets or selling bootlegs clothes on the streets, however that pityness come from the idea that black people can't help themselves and we should help them.
With the hispanics, or sudacas as we call them, as far I know and see everyday, they are one of the most assimilated, obviously because we share the language and some aspects of the culture.
 
skaytec said:
I don't know that much about race relations in my home country, but I can guarantee that gypsies are by far the most hated group. When we are little, our relatives and friends told us that we should stay away from gypsies because they might robe, beat or even kill you if you do something wrong with them (aka don't give them an euro when they ask you).
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I had no idea how much Gypsies are hated by Europeans until a few years ago. When I went to Rome with my family, our tour guide rudely shooed away a Gypsy woman and told us we shouldn't give Gypsies anything or feel sorry for them (nothing overtly racist because she didn't want to offend the Americans, but I could definitely sense a lot of contempt).

Then somehow I stumbled upon this Reddit thread by an American asking Europeans why Gypsies are so hated, and it was pretty illuminating. I was so interested in that thread I ended up finding another one like it to learn more. I don't think racism is every okay, but from what it sounds like the hatred is only really directed at the people who are genuinely awful.

Tl;dr: Literally every European who's encountered Gypsies hates Gypsies.
 
Cosmos said:
I had no idea how much Gypsies are hated by Europeans until a few years ago. When I went to Rome with my family, our tour guide rudely shooed away a Gypsy woman and told us we shouldn't give Gypsies anything or feel sorry for them (nothing overtly racist because she didn't want to offend the Americans, but I could definitely sense a lot of contempt).

Then somehow I stumbled upon this Reddit thread by an American asking Europeans why Gypsies are so hated, and it was pretty illuminating. I was so interested in that thread I ended up finding another one like it to learn more. I don't think racism is every okay, but from what it sounds like the hatred is only really directed at the people who are genuinely awful.

Tl;dr: Literally every European who's encountered Gypsies hates Gypsies.
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As I said, you generally run across a few decent ones who work instead of doing crime. Usually they can speak their native language without an accent, which is needed for them to interact with work.

But for every such person there are 9 thugs and welfare shoplifter cows. I did once read that a gypsy woman who managed to get herself a university degree aboard, wanted to make an educational program for rural gypsy heavy areas in Hungary.

She was shocked to find that not only white children were "bullied out" of school, but any gypsy kid who actually tried to learn and assimilate received just the same treatment.

Mind, since segregation is illegal, whites just do whatever they can put their kids at schools where there are no gypsies, even if that means tripled travel time there. Teachers have been known to call gypsy studends as orcs due to their rowdy behaviour, much to liberal's mysoggyknees.
 
Yeah, hatred of gipsy is pretty much universal in Europe.
I think you need to encounter them on a regular basis to understand why
 
The Great Chandler said:
I live in one of the most diverse towns out there and they mostly get along with one another. But not that it's a rarity or anything.
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I like to think that's true of my city as well. I've never had a tough sitaution when I felt I didn't feel I fit in or felt unsafe because someone outside my color was present.
 
Cosmos said:
Tl;dr: Literally every European who's encountered Gypsies hates Gypsies.
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Yeah, Gypsies are pretty disgusting examples of the species. In behavioural terms, think Nick Bate with slightly less flagrant child abuse. I live in London, and there's a representative sample of ~90% of the world's cultures here. The only one that is universally despised is Gypies. Somalis come a close second (for many of the same reasons), but I have never met anyone who was sympathetic towards Roma Gypsies.
 
In my local area, a great deal of people absolutely despise the huge amount of Chinese exchange students that go to the local college because quite a few of them are horribly rude, especially towards the local Latino population which makes up about 25% of the town population. Then comes the male Muslim international students, who have had a history of being terrible to local women (ie: knocking them down/refusing to let them pass them on the street, making nasty comments about their attire, etc.) and for picking fights with the Protestant communities here over Easter/Christmas events.

There's so few Black people up here that some of my friends from down South call it "White People's Disneyland" haha.
 
The Great Chandler said:
This proves the SJWs who think the South is still like the 60s wrong.
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To my knowledge, there's no overt racism towards Black people and the city hasn't had a Black-related hate crime in nearly 20 years. But yeah, my friends have commented that it feels really weird to be surrounded by so many white people. I feel it too, having come from a larger metropolitan area where approximately 50% of the population is non-white.
 
Lackadaisy said:
In my local area, a great deal of people absolutely despise the huge amount of Chinese exchange students that go to the local college because quite a few of them are horribly rude,
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In my experience Chinese who were born here hate Chinese immigrants (fobs) more than anyone else, especially the ones who hardly speak English. Then again, that might just be my friends.
 
I dunno if it's because the south already had race riots back in the 60s, but generally people of all races usually, A. Tolerate each other, B. Actually get along. And C. Interact on a daily basis. This goes for all age groups. I've had decent conversations with BLM activists before, and my dad and I had a wonderful conversation with the stereotypical "wise old black man" in a target. I've also seen hardcore rednecks (rebel flags and all) discussing politics with African American mothers in a little Caesars. Dunno if it's due to southern hospitality, or the fact that soul crushing poverty brings people together. Maybe it's the water here. Haven't figured that out yet.
 
Jan_Hus said:
I dunno if it's because the south already had race riots back in the 60s, but generally people of all races usually, A. Tolerate each other, B. Actually get along. And C. Interact on a daily basis. This goes for all age groups. I've had decent conversations with BLM activists before, and my dad and I had a wonderful conversation with the stereotypical "wise old black man" in a target. I've also seen hardcore rednecks (rebel flags and all) discussing politics with African American mothers in a little Caesars. Dunno if it's due to southern hospitality, or the fact that soul crushing poverty brings people together. Maybe it's the water here. Haven't figured that out yet.
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Most likely hopeless shared situation and no rosy future possible.
 
Yaoi Huntress Earth said:
What I mean by this title is that we all know about the growing tensions between whites and blacks, but I was curious if it is the same for other races. Is there a strong resentment that (for example) Hispanics or Asians have towards whites as well? When it comes to the bad apples (like gang members), do they call them on it? Is there a lot of pressure placed on children and family members?
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I don't really think there is that much tension. We just have cameraphones broadcasting the black experience to the rest of america and some whites reject what they see because we've wanted to feel like we've achieved a roughly equal society and we've all encountered black playing the race card.

This is understandably irritating to blacks who usually have all experienced some amount of injustice because of their color.

Also it's bringing our formerly quiet closet racists out of the closet to make white america look pretty hateful. Interesting thing to note, I just watched a video of a cop manhandling an uncooperative black kid and he flipped the kid up in the air and slammed him down on the ground and then cuffed him.

The majority of the black posters said it was great, the kid was resisting and everyone is still alive, well done officer. I've seen the same circle of black friends get pissed off about other videos where people are getting shot in the back so.
 
ChuckSlaughter said:
The majority of the black posters said it was great, the kid was resisting and everyone is still alive, well done officer. I've seen the same circle of black friends get pissed off about other videos where people are getting shot in the back so.
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I don't know how most people think most black people are BLM nutjobs because they aren't.
 
ZeCommissar said:
One thing that might be interesting to add to your story is i'm under the assumption your main character might "rise above" the thug life in his area, and still experience racism due to stereotypes even though he is not like the other people in whatever area your story is set in.

So no, it's not "all the same" around the world, but I would argue that the very core things that cause it is fear of "the other".
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He did "raise above" and now lives about a middle class existence (from his childhood in the ghettos), waiting for his big break. I do have a moment of subtle racism he faces with a white person, but I'm also curious about how other races view it when one of their own "raises above". I know there's a lot of pressure with Asians, but what about the other races?

Also, thanks for all the info on the Gypsies. It's sad their kids had to be dragged into that lifestyle.
 
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