Race relations: Is it all the same?

[Male Idiot]

I wonder how much of the tension is caused by telling people there is tension. If people were born and were never told that race is such a big deal, I bet all races would get on much more harmoniously.

Most likely a lot, and put in different culture as well. Its called multiCULTURalism for a reason, and it does not work exactly because of that.

 

[ZeCommissar]

Do you guys think "innate racism" is a thing? As in everybody is born a little racist?

If we were to have a city of 500,000 people that were all born into and around different races, and everyone had the same culture, religion, and the only main differing value was politics, what would the race relations be like? Lets assume everyone in this city has never been told anything about racism, or the history of violence between any races. Lets say this hypothetical city called "utopia" or some shit like that has every human ethnicity on the planet right now that you can think of.

I actually wonder how such a implausible scenario would play out in reality.

 

[Male Idiot]

Do you guys think "innate racism" is a thing? As in everybody is born a little racist?

If we were to have a city of 500,000 people that were all born into and around different races, and everyone had the same culture, religion, and the only main differing value was politics, what would the race relations be like? Lets assume everyone in this city has never been told anything about racism, or the history of violence between any races. Lets say this hypothetical city called "utopia" or some shit like that has every human ethnicity on the planet right now that you can think of.

I actually wonder how such a implausible scenario would play out in reality.

I learned in Etology that humans used to be tribal animals who lived in tribes of few hundreds. That's why you don't like it when strangers sit within a few meters of you, your instincts tell you its wrong.

This biological tension is also responsible for racism and even when two white towns rivalise with each other, or two black ethnicities dislike each other.

A lot of human biology has failed to adapt to our technologically advanced lifestyle.

But on your theory, I think there are a lot of factors:
-Biological tension. They look different.
-Historical tension. They enslaved us.
-Political tension. They vote for Crooked turd or douche.
-Economical tension. They are richer or poorer than us.
-Cultural tension. Their culture does not want women to drive.
-Religious tension. Their gods don't like our gods.

These all add up and there is no definitive cause, its an aglomeration of all the factors. The more factors you remove, the less trouble there will be. The biological part of course can not be removed.
Modern multiculturalism allows for different cultures and religions which cause more friction than other societies.
Theoretically, so if there was a nation with no historical records of black slavery, no big vague gap between rich and poor, one political party, one culture, and one religion, it would do better. I'm just not sure how much that better would be.

 

[AnOminous]

Republic Of Georgia Here:

Before your Borat-sounding talk, I thought you were from the American state called Georgia. If you ever move here, you should probably move there.

Also from the name "Raziel" I thought you were the insane tranny lolcow Wesley Bailey, who also used that nick.

(That was before you started talking. Obviously you aren't that madman.)

 

[MrLooks]

Do you guys think "innate racism" is a thing? As in everybody is born a little racist?

If we were to have a city of 500,000 people that were all born into and around different races, and everyone had the same culture, religion, and the only main differing value was politics, what would the race relations be like? Lets assume everyone in this city has never been told anything about racism, or the history of violence between any races. Lets say this hypothetical city called "utopia" or some shit like that has every human ethnicity on the planet right now that you can think of.

I actually wonder how such a implausible scenario would play out in reality.

Well I didn't study humans like Male Idiot, so his opinion is probably worth more, but I think it depends.

I think humans naturally look for patterns in things. So for example, if people wearing burkas keep detonating bombs, people will quickly grow to hate and be suspicious of anybody wearing a burka. The same could probably be extended to any other feature including race, so if for example Mexicans kept holding us at gunpoint we would grow suspicious of anybody who looks Mexican. Our survival instincts try to find patterns or correlations we can use to identify potential threats. Political correctness forces people to ignore this basic survival instinct.

But if all of the different races were all good citizens, I'm not sure there would be much racism. As in I don't see skin color being mocked more than any other unusual defining feature like being fat, being short etc. But then in your scenario, it's extremely mixed so there's no majority or minority race groups, so yeah I'm not sure. But I definitely think the hysteria surrounding race and the way racism is constantly harped on about is what makes the problem 100000x worse than it is.

 

[Male Idiot]

Well I didn't study humans like Male Idiot, so his opinion is probably worth more, but I think it depends.

I think humans naturally look for patterns in things. So for example, if people wearing burkas keep detonating bombs, people will quickly grow to hate and be suspicious of anybody wearing a burka. The same could probably be extended to any other feature including race, so if for example Mexicans kept holding us at gunpoint we would grow suspicious of anybody who looks Mexican. Our survival instincts try to find patterns or correlations we can use to identify potential threats. Political correctness forces people to ignore this basic survival instinct.

But if all of the different races were all good citizens, I'm not sure there would be much racism. As in I don't see skin color being mocked more than any other unusual defining feature like being fat, being short etc. But then in your scenario, it's extremely mixed so there's no majority or minority race groups, so yeah I'm not sure. But I definitely think the hysteria surrounding race and the way racism is constantly harped on about is what makes the problem 100000x worse than it is.

Nah you are pretty much right to my knowledge. We look for patterns so that we can avoid a danger that we alredy faced.

It is also worth nothing that racism is not a binary state, it has degrees. The less tension there is, the less violent racism becomes I think. At its lowest, its just "marry to one like yourself" while at its highest its a full on race/ethnicity war. This is also not only a white only phenomenon as liberals would have you believe. Tribal ethnic warfare is/was perhaps even more rampant in Africa than it is in white territory.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pygmy_peoples#Reports_of_genocide

 

[Lefty's Revenge]

I wonder how much of the tension is caused by telling people there is tension. If people were born and were never told that race is such a big deal, I bet all races would get on much more harmoniously.

Nah the tension was and is definitely there. I think whats changed is that white people of all backgrounds cant really ignore racial issues anymore. Dog whistles get called out more, coded or even out right racist language gets pointed out alot more frequently, etc.

And I'll agree on one thing that was stated earlier, the election of Obama helped bring alot of this to the forefront. Regardless of his politics when a white man can lead a conspiracy movement mostly composed of white people alleging that a black guy named Obama wasn't born in this country and is probably a muslim and gets rewarded with the republican nomination its really hard to keep thinking of other possible reasons as to why thats happening.

 

[Raziel]

What the hell did i just read 0_0, anyways thanks for reading.

 

[Varg Did Nothing Wrong]

I rode in a bus yesterday with a bunch of Middle Easterners. No idea where they're from, nor do I care, but goddamn is it annoying to hear people talking in whatever sandperson jibber jabber language they speak loud enough for the whole bus to hear them, laughing, etc.

I get annoyed by anyone being loud and obnoxious on the bus, but it's arguably twice as bad when you don't understand whatever inane shit they're probably talking about.

As such, I'm postulating that if people stopped being obnoxious cunts, race relations would improve.

 

[Male Idiot]

I rode in a bus yesterday with a bunch of Middle Easterners. No idea where they're from, nor do I care, but goddamn is it annoying to hear people talking in whatever sandperson jibber jabber language they speak loud enough for the whole bus to hear them, laughing, etc.

I get annoyed by anyone being loud and obnoxious on the bus, but it's arguably twice as bad when you don't understand whatever inane shit they're probably talking about.

As such, I'm postulating that if people stopped being obnoxious cunts, race relations would improve.

The fact that you can't understand what they are saying will make you dislike and distrust them, which is a very logical response from your subconscious.
This is not a race issue, I get this feeling when I hear white tourists spout some gibberish on the bus too.