UK Race riots put Britain on collision course with Elon Musk - Britain’s government has social platforms in its sights as incitement spreads — and the X owner is squaring up for a fight.

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Race riots put Britain on collision course with Elon Musk
Politico EU (archive.ph)
By Esther Webber and Vincent Manacourt
2024-08-06 07:56:44GMT

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Fake news channels on X helped to disseminate false information about the killing of three children in Southport last week. | Christopher Furlong/Getty Images

LONDON — Britain’s in the grip of its worst race riots in decades. And Elon Musk just can't help himself.

The billionaire X owner sparked fury in the British government this weekend after he responded to incendiary footage of the far-right disorder that's sweeping the country by saying "civil war is inevitable."

The post on X was roundly condemned by U.K. Prime Minister Keir Starmer's office, which said there was “no justification” for Musk’s comments.

But Musk doubled down on Monday night. Responding to a statement from Starmer vowing his government would “not tolerate attacks on mosques or on Muslim communities,” the X boss effectively accused the British prime minister of wearing blinkers. “Shouldn’t you be concerned about attacks on all communities?”

Starmer's top interior minister, Yvette Cooper, meanwhile has a litany of complaints over the way social media giants like X are policing incitement and disinformation on their platforms.

“There are some things which are clearly already criminal, where we'll need police intervention and action to pursue those," Cooper told the BBC Monday. "There are other areas where the social media companies do have clear requirements at the moment to remove criminal material, and should be doing so, but sometimes take too long to do so.

"There are other areas where they have made commitments around their terms and conditions that are supposed to be enforced but are not being done so."

Cooper's vowed to take up the issue with tech giants this week.

Yet, despite plenty of hand-wringing over the proliferation of far-right messaging, Britain's toolbox for forcing the hands of social media companies seems limited.

This time, the riots — which have seen mosques attacked and accommodation for asylum seekers targeted — were inextricably linked to online communications. Fake news channels on X helped to disseminate false information about the killing of three children in Southport last week.

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The riots — which have seen mosques attacked and accommodation for asylum seekers targeted — were inextricably linked to online communications. | Christopher Furlong/Getty Images

Right-wing influencers with huge reach, such as English Defense League founder Tommy Robinson and actor-turned-anti-woke activist Laurence Fox, have punted messages at their thousands of followers on X, Facebook, Instagram and TikTok. (Fox approvingly shared Musk's attack on Starmer Monday night.)

WhatsApp and Telegram have been used to organize gatherings at short notice, while flyers organizing specific protests have been spread on Facebook. TikTok has been abuzz with videos of the violence.

But X in particular has proven a particular hotbed of far-right chatter. Musk's direct intervention aside, the platform has also reinstated Robinson's account. He is currently banned on Instagram and Facebook.

In a statement Monday, Britain’s Tech Secretary Peter Kyle said it is “undeniable” that social media has provided a platform for the rioters.

“We have been clear with these companies they also have a responsibility not to peddle the harm of those who seek to damage and divide our society, and we are working closely with them to ensure they meet that responsibility,” he added.

'No need to wait'
So, beyond beefing with Musk, what can Britain’s government actually do? The administration has a big legislative stick to use — but it's simply not ready yet.

Under Britain’s Online Safety Act, years in the making, platforms will have a duty to “take robust action” against illegal content. That includes content that incites violence or which is related to “racially or religiously aggravated public order offenses.”

Platforms are meant to prevent illegal content appearing on the platforms in the first place — and to act quickly to remove it if it does appear.

Failing to meet these obligations could see social media firms face fines of up to £18 million — or 10 percent of their worldwide revenue, whichever is greater — by media regulator Ofcom.

But crucially, the act's provisions on illegal content only come into effect around the end of 2024. And Britain’s existing laws on inciting violence stem from its 1986 public order act, which predates social media by decades — and so require police to comb platforms for potential breaches.

For now, British authorities can only implore tech companies to do the right thing and stringently enforce their own policies, many of which claim to ban the kind of content that has been openly rife online in recent days.

“There’s no need for online services to wait for the new laws to come into force before they make their sites and apps safer for users,” said a spokesperson for Britain's tech regulator, Ofcom.

“Our role will be to make sure that regulated services take appropriate steps to protect their users,” they added. “It will not involve us making decisions about individual posts or accounts.”

Sunder Katwala, director of the think tank British Future, told POLITICO that “will and capacity” are needed by social media platforms to remove offensive or dangerous content, “and what you've got at the moment is less will and and less capacity than you used to have, certainly in the case of X — and on Facebook and Tiktok.” X, Meta, TikTok, and Telegram were approached for comment.

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Social media could have upsides in catching those breaking the law. | Christopher Furlong/Getty Images

He added that pressure from the top could be key to forcing change, since “politicians have actually got something very important on the regulators — which is that they've got a forum to which you can summon people.”

Sara Khan, who served as former Prime Minister Rishi Sunak’s adviser on social cohesion, has accused ministers of failing to heed her 2021 report co-authored with Metropolitan Police chief Mark Rowley, which warned that certain prevalent forms of hateful extremism are not captured by existing legislation.

“Our rules have failed to evolve with this growing extremist threat, there are gaps in our legislation that is allowing them to, in effect, operate with impunity," Khan told the Guardian this week.

Over in the EU, the bloc's equivalent of the Online Safety Act — the Digital Services Act — is already in force and X is facing a probe by the European Commission over the spread of toxic content on the platform.

In France, President Emmanuel Macron even floated the idea of cutting access to social media platforms altogether because of the role he said they played in exacerbating riots in the country last summer. Britain seems unlikely to go quite that far.

Action by social media giants ultimately depends on the credible threat of enforcing regulation, according to Katwala — something he believes has been sorely lacking so far. "If tech companies don’t comply when the time comes, we’ll have a broad range of enforcement powers at our disposal," said the Ofcom spokesperson.

In the meantime, social media could have upsides in catching those breaking the law. Nazir Afzal, who was chief crown prosecutor in the north west of England at the time of 2011 disorder, pointed out that videos shared online would make it far easier to identify perpetrators than it was 13 years ago, when the main resource available was CCTV.

But, as the sparring with Musk continues, Britain's government remains to be convinced. “Some of this is about criminal behavior of individuals, and some of this is about the responsibility of the social media companies,” said Cooper, the home secretary. “We need to pursue both, because we obviously cannot carry on like this.”
 
Honest question: What's stopping a bunch of US trolls from making a bunch of fake UK accounts with real UK names/addresses and posting dumb harmless things to get arrested (or at least visited by the police)? This would not only waste law enforcement's time, but it would further piss off the UK residents.
Didn't /POL/ do this recently?
 
The British Police announce plans to Extradite and Imprison Americans who violate British Hate Speech laws on X, including discussing bad things the Brown Replacements for Ethnic Europeans do (as, per government policy, they can do no wrong).

Remember, stabbing a bunch of toddlers, killing 3, is bad. But getting upset about it is a crime.

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This weak faggot can go home and hang himself, along with all the other UK rainbow police. Deport every non-Briton.
 
Hope all my Americans friends enjoy their free speech and continue to enlighten my countries law enforcement to the glory of the 1st amendment.
"we shall never surrender, and even if, which I do not for a moment believe, this Island or a large part of it were subjugated and starving, then our Empire beyond the seas, armed and guarded by the British Fleet, would carry on the struggle, until, in God’s good time, the New World, with all its power and might, steps forth to the rescue and the liberation of the old."

Shame the Kingdom of France is gone, USA could team up with them again and kick England's ass a second time for freedom.

Unfortunately, I suspect the modern USA totalitarian state would be on the same side as the U.K. Gov destroying its own population.
 
The British Police announce plans to Extradite and Imprison Americans who violate British Hate Speech laws on X, including discussing bad things the Brown Replacements for Ethnic Europeans do (as, per government policy, they can do no wrong).

Remember, stabbing a bunch of toddlers, killing 3, is bad. But getting upset about it is a crime.

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Fuck you you spineless serf cuck. We threw your ass back into the sea, twice, and we should have let the Krauts rape your ancestors and level your piece of shit island both times and just sat back and laughed. Try it you worthless paper pusher. Come over and get some. I want you send your most dangerous whatever the Bong Faggot equivalent of the US Marshalls, anyway I am jonesing for you to send those fucks over to try to take me into custody so I can pull a gun on them, see them piss themselves at the sight of a gun, and then pistol whip them while screaming "Worldstar!". And that's before they've left the airport.
I'd say I'd teabag them but since all brits are fags or nonces at this point, I'll refrain because they'd probably enjoy it.

You are being replaced by inbred muzzies and you are doing your level best in helping make it go faster. You don't arrest child rapists, you don't arrest actual violent thugs, you only go after the cucked and unarmed. God forbid anyone notice what you've been doing.

You won't confront fucking shit on the street. Your affirmative action squad will mess their drawers at anyone more well armed than you, which is everyone who doesn't follow your cucked out book of faggot laws. I hope one of the brown criminals you carry water for murders your entire family in front of you, and then in court you have to watch some queer in a wig let them go free because of colonial oppression while you are sentenced to 16 months because you cried when they were doing it and didn't thank them for killing some whites after it happened.

Massage your prostate with an inside-out garbage disposal you simpering fognigger.
 
The British Police announce plans to Extradite and Imprison Americans who violate British Hate Speech laws on X, including discussing bad things the Brown Replacements for Ethnic Europeans do (as, per government policy, they can do no wrong).

Remember, stabbing a bunch of toddlers, killing 3, is bad. But getting upset about it is a crime.

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Try it nigger. You'll end up getting a shotgun in the face.
Also if Kamala seriously entertains the idea of extraditing American citizens for talking about the UK's failure to protect their citizens, she will immediately lose a TON of support.
 
I interviewed grandma, she was in collections for the hospital bills
Nice larp until this point. What hospital bills? UK doesn't charge for those. Admittedly the service is shit now because it's overburdened with migrants (as anyone who has been there recently will see) but they don't charge.
 
Try it nigger. You'll end up getting a shotgun in the face.
Also if Kamala seriously entertains the idea of extraditing American citizens for talking about the UK's failure to protect their citizens, she will immediately lose a TON of support.
Erm, her voting base would applaud if a bunch of right wingers were extradited and imprisoned for “stirring racial hatred.” They foam at that mouth to pass those kinds of laws here.

Just a reminder that many/most people will gladly put themselves in chains if they get to put it on you first
 
The Britons were already replaced by the Anglo Saxons. King Arthur swore he would return in the hour of his people's greatest need, now they're no longer his people and you have to wonder why their legendary hero is a guy who gets cucked by Lancelot. The BBC is too busy filming the Battle of Hasting documentaries with black generals to care, but then again the BBC blackballed Johnny Rotten for saying that Jimmy Saville was a pedo. Imagine spending centuries fighting shitskins just to invite them in to take over your country. Now the royal line has been blacked by a curiously red headed son who is rumored to be the product of an affair between Di and her bodyguard.
 
Nice larp until this point. What hospital bills? UK doesn't charge for those. Admittedly the service is shit now because it's overburdened with migrants (as anyone who has been there recently will see) but they don't charge.
I’m in America. This was my response to an American claiming that the Brits should have done something before now
And Americans acting like they’ve done any better than the Brits have, despite us having guns.
 
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