Containment Random Chris Updates

[trueandhonestfan]

I'm wondering if KrazyKari took a photo with Chris at Bronycon. She says on her Twitter that she went to the con and posted a bunch of photos:
Woman on the left:

KrazyKari shortly after the Bronycon:
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It's difficult to tell with the different makeup and the wig and sunglasses.

Bronycon, the only place where Chris doesn't look completely out of place.

 

[thismanlies]

Bronycon, the only place where Chris doesn't look completely out of place.

Chris should get a job working for that convention.

 

[BigTubboWithLittleChina]

in which case all the nazi chrises his fans have made over the decade live in.

'Course, the biggest Nazi Chris - the one who routinely has secret police monitor his citizens for thoughtcrime and sexcrime, the one who stages show kangaroo trials, the one who has his super-powered minions given free rein to beat the crap out of anyone who looks at them in a funny way, the one who stages sadistic executions of those who merely dared to slight him - is the one created by Chris's biggest fan of all.

 

[Pony Horn]

Another sucker who gave Chris money is now regretting her decision:

I don't mind Chris making money but this annoys me. He begs for enough Patreon money to pay off the mortgage but is too lazy to make a list of comic issues he needs to print out, buy them, sign them, and mail them out. I wouldn't be surprised if he doesn't even bother putting aside enough of his Patreon money to pay for the comics and shipping. Instead he buys vidya games and Mickey Ds.

Autism is a bitch but Chris has earned his failures in life and anyone who is stupid enough to give him money deserves what they (don't) get.

 

[Marvin]

Another sucker who gave Chris money is now regretting her decision:
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I don't mind Chris making money but this annoys me. He begs for enough Patreon money to pay off the mortgage but is too lazy to make a list of comic issues he needs to print out, buy them, sign them, and mail them out. I wouldn't be surprised if he doesn't even bother putting aside enough of his Patreon money to pay for the comics and shipping. Instead he buys vidya games and Mickey Ds.

Autism is a bitch but Chris has earned his failures in life and anyone who is stupid enough to give him money deserves what they (don't) get.

So to clarify, there's a difference between never (or essentially never) sending out the comics, and occasionally fucking up and missing a deadline. They're both shitty, but one is worse.

I think people get the impression that Chris' schedule is more like the former than the latter. The truth is that, in general, Chris does regularly send out the rewards. He fucks up sometimes, and he misses deadlines sometimes, but not most of the time.

This person isn't a sucker for contributing to Chris' patreon. (Well, other than gambling on wanting this to be delivered in time for Christmas.) They just have shitty taste.

 

[MMX]

So to clarify, there's a difference between never (or essentially never) sending out the comics, and occasionally fucking up and missing a deadline. They're both shitty, but one is worse.

I think people get the impression that Chris' schedule is more like the former than the latter. The truth is that, in general, Chris does regularly send out the rewards. He fucks up sometimes, and he misses deadlines sometimes, but not most of the time.

This person isn't a sucker for contributing to Chris' patreon. (Well, other than gambling on wanting this to be delivered in time for Christmas.) They just have shitty taste.

Not defending Chris but as it's been pointed out time and time again Chris doesn't actually need to send out rewards or even complete his commitments, the only downside to not doing so is loosing supporters, patreon ain't gonna do shit.
That said it's hard to say Chris is "working on it" rather than not when you consider he fucked up his etsy/sonicu figures thing so bad has shop was closed....you have to fuck up real bad to have them step in.

 

[Pony Horn]

So to clarify, there's a difference between never (or essentially never) sending out the comics, and occasionally fucking up and missing a deadline. They're both shitty, but one is worse to a different degree.

I think people get the impression that Chris' schedule is more like the former than the latter. The truth is that, in general, Chris does regularly send out the rewards. He fucks up sometimes, and he misses deadlines sometimes, but not most of the time.

This person isn't a sucker for contributing to Chris' patreon. (Well, other than gambling on wanting this to be delivered in time for Christmas.) They just have shitty taste.

I didnt say he never sent anything.

We're talking about a guy who had terrible ebay and etsy ratings, had numerous complaints on both sites, had money returned to buyers on a number of occaisions, and lost both accounts at a time when he was literally begging for money.

He goes on Patreon and asks for people to pay off the mortgage but he can't be bothered to regularly send out comics once a month. He also couldn't be bothered to always make time sensitive videos, like birthday wishes, in a timely fashion when he was getting paid $50 for them.

That said, anyone who tries to buy something from Chris is a sucker unless it's strictly cash and carry. Or if they're perfectly content with potentially losing their money or they just think of it as giving to charity.

 

[Hollywood Hulk Hogan]

This person isn't a sucker for contributing to Chris' patreon. (Well, other than gambling on wanting this to be delivered in time for Christmas.) They just have shitty taste.

Anyone stupid enough to contribute to Chris's patreon is a sucker

 

[Marvin]

Not defending Chris but as it's been pointed out time and time again Chris doesn't actually need to send out rewards or even complete his commitments, the only downside to not doing so is loosing supporters, patreon ain't gonna do shit.

Yeah, but that's not really the conversation at hand. We're not talking about technically what he's obligated to do, but rather what is good and right for him to do.

That said it's hard to say Chris is "working on it" rather than not when you consider he fucked up his etsy/sonicu figures thing so bad has shop was closed....you have to fuck up real bad to have them step in.

The sonichu figurines were kind of a unique situation, in that I don't think Chris expected or was prepared for a sales volume of that magnitude. That was indeed a big fuckup on Chris' part, but not really a repeatable situation.

In general, when Chris has a reasonable workload, he delivers satisfactorily.

I didnt say he never sent anything.

He goes on Patreon and asks for people to pay off the mortgage but he can't be bothered to regularly send out comics once a month.

I didn't say you said he never sent anything. Reread my post. I said "never (or essentially never)" and yeah, that's very much what it sounds like you're saying here.

It sounds like you believe Chris' successful delivery percentage to be close to zero. Maybe not literally zero, but pretty low, like 30% or less.

That's not the case. Chris fulfills the vast majority of the requests he receives.

We're talking about a guy who had terrible ebay and etsy ratings, had numerous complaints on both sites, had money returned to buyers on a number of occaisions, and lost both accounts at a time when he was literally begging for money.

Actually, Chris has always had pretty solid ebay ratings. He's a pretty good seller on ebay when the buyers aren't weens looking to fuck with him.

He also couldn't be bothered to always make time sensitive videos, like birthday wishes, in a timely fashion when he was getting paid $50 for them.

He gets most of them on time.

Chris' behavior is informed by signals from his customers: money, requests, demands and threats. His customers pay him lots of money, make many requests, but little demands, and virtually no threats.

Chris' customers are self-cucking themselves. In fact, market forces should dictate Chris should send out less product than he does.

That said, anyone who tries to buy something from Chris is a sucker unless it's strictly cash and carry. Or if they're perfectly content with potentially losing their money or they just think of it as giving to charity.

They don't lose out. They do receive their content, on average. The vast majority of people who send Chris money in exchange for some good or service do receive their good or service.

Anyone stupid enough to contribute to Chris's patreon is a sucker

In the sense that they're being conned?

 

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I didnt say he never sent anything.

We're talking about a guy who had terrible ebay and etsy ratings, had numerous complaints on both sites, had money returned to buyers on a number of occaisions, and lost both accounts at a time when he was literally begging for money.

He goes on Patreon and asks for people to pay off the mortgage but he can't be bothered to regularly send out comics once a month. He also couldn't be bothered to always make time sensitive videos, like birthday wishes, in a timely fashion when he was getting paid $50 for them.

That said, anyone who tries to buy something from Chris is a sucker unless it's strictly cash and carry. Or if they're perfectly content with potentially losing their money or they just think of it as giving to charity.

Chris isn't fundamentally dishonest, and he doesn't mean to slack on his business, he is basically a kid that failed to launch in any meaningful way, and kids get distracted by stuff instead of knuckling down and doing their homework/chores..etc.

The reason Chris is somewhat sloppy with his stores is that he doesn't have someone standing over his head and actively putting his feet to the fire.

That someone has to be actually present with him, and not some faceless anon on the internet who files a complaint, though he will take those seriously enough, he just won't feel the urgency to finish things, unless things were veeeeery tight for him, money-wise. Like that John Smith thing lol.

Ordinarily, this person would be Barb, but she truly doesn't care one way or another, and even if she did, she's getting on with age, and believe it or not, parenting is tiring as fuck.

 

[MMX]

Yeah, but that's not really the conversation at hand. We're not talking about technically what he's obligated to do, but rather what is good and right for him to do.

True but I wanted to head off the "getting mad a Chris debate".
Plenty of worse situations involving patreon and patreon don't give a shit about those either.

The sonichu figurines were kind of a unique situation, in that I don't think Chris expected or was prepared for a sales volume of that magnitude. That was indeed a big fuckup on Chris' part, but not really a repeatable situation.

Granted
But how did Chris react to demand ?
By expanding his line, promoting multi buy deals and taking more orders rather than creating a cut off or setting a workload . He just kept taking orders and not filling them, yet spent the money until things got so bad etsy stepped in.
Fair enuff he wasn't prepared but he kept offering my options, buying in more stock he couldn't shift rather than handle the orders he had or at least kept his customers informed.

In general, when Chris has a reasonable workload, he delivers satisfactorily.

Not being a dick but I have to ask for an example that doesn't include Chris selling a 3rd party's goods on ebay or people just grateful to own a piece of Christory, even when someone doesn't complain it doesn't mean Chris didn't half are it, in fact it's usually better when he does.

 

[Marvin]

Granted
But how did Chris react to demand
By expanding his line, promoting multi buy deals and taking more orders rather than creating a cut off or setting a workload . He just kept taking orders and not filling them, yet spent the money until things go some bad etsy stepped in.

Oh yeah, no, he was a total shithead there. No doubt about it.

Not being a duck but I have to ask for an example that doesn't include Chris selling a 3rd party's goods on ebay or people just grateful to own a piece of Christory, even when someone doesn't complain it doesn't mean Chris didn't half are it, in fact it's usually better when he does.

Well, to clarify, by "satisfactorily", I mean that he delivers on time and delivers what was requested.

The quality is going to be garbage. But that's why I say that Chris' patrons have terrible taste, rather than them being outright conned.

They generally get what they asked for. It's just that what they asked for is fucking stupid.

 

[MMX]

Chris isn't fundamentally dishonest,.

Ignoring him trying to lure a girl to his house by pretending to be someone else
Or claiming expensive items such as a ps4 bought on credit are fan-gifts to keep barb from hassling him
Or claiming he needs money for bills rather than toys
Or buying games at a cheap price and trying to fob another store he bought it there for a higher price but list the proof
Or shoplifting
Or that he was the true winner of the parappa contest
Or chloe existing
Or that he eats healthy fruits and veggies
That he's working on it
That he forgives us


Or that he was honour roll

 

[Hollywood Hulk Hogan]

In the sense that they're being conned?

Yes. The same way that people who give money to MLM are being conned. Or that buy shitty cars. People are giving him money to be "part of Christory", which is stupid because it doesn't make one part of Christory anymore than Tweeting him "You are stupid" does. It isn't "owning part of Christory" either, because it's not like these shitty drawings are historical CWC documents.

Especially when he's got a reputation of not delivering

 

[Marvin]

Ignoring him trying to lure a girl to his house by pretending to be someone else
Or claiming expensive items such as a ps4 bought on credit are fan-gifts to keep barb from hassling him
Or claiming he needs money for bills rather than toys
Or buying games at a cheap price and trying to fob another store he bought it there for a higher price but list the proof
Or shoplifting



Or that he was honour roll

Chris almost never tries to lie with intent. When he does try, it's fucking hilarious. He gets really... sweaty and sketchy. I don't know if he's literally sweating, because it's just over the internet, but he acts really shady, like he's a drug dealer from a cartoon.

Specifically: Chris isn't lying about needing money for bills vs toys. He believes the "wheelin and dealin" shit is an acceptable practice. He doesn't see it as being dishonest. And Chris was probably on honor roll.

Rest of it, yeah Chris was being a dishonest piece of shit.

Edit: And y'know, I think the trolls have kind of made Chris more honest than he'd be naturally, just because we consistently call him on his shit. He really doesn't try to lie that often because we've caught him every time he's tried, and embarrassed the fuck out of him publicly for it. I bet he thinks we literally have some sort of psychic power to detect his lies.

Yes. The same way that people who give money to MLM are being conned. Or that buy shitty cars. People are giving him money to be "part of Christory", which is stupid because it doesn't make one part of Christory anymore than Tweeting him "You are stupid" does. It isn't "owning part of Christory" either, because it's not like these shitty drawings are historical CWC documents.

Especially when he's got a reputation of not delivering

When someone says "conned", I expect there to be some actual fraud going on. The people who give money to Chris are dumb, but they're not being defrauded.

 

[MMX]

Yes. The same way that people who give money to MLM are being conned. Or that buy shitty cars. People are giving him money to be "part of Christory", which is stupid because it doesn't make one part of Christory anymore than Tweeting him "You are stupid" does. It isn't "owning part of Christory" either, because it's not like these shitty drawings are historical CWC documents.

Especially when he's got a reputation of not delivering

I hear you brother
But if anyone conning anyone
Then his patrons are conning themselves
Conning themselves into believing they will get something out of this or will be come part of Christory
And white knights are just conning themselves if they think their money is going to improve CWCS life in anyway that doesn't involve a new transformer.

EDIT - This is why I'm never pissed of when cows like Brianna Wu, DSP or ADF raise funds and don't deliver, they have a history of doing so but the same dumb folks keep coughing up cash anyway and the only folks who complain or those who never got stung.
Fools and money....

 

[Pony Horn]

Not defending Chris but as it's been pointed out time and time again Chris doesn't actually need to send out rewards or even complete his commitments, the only downside to not doing so is loosing supporters, patreon ain't gonna do shit.
That said it's hard to say Chris is "working on it" rather than not when you consider he fucked up his etsy/sonicu figures thing so bad has shop was closed....you have to fuck up real bad to have them step in.

Yeah, Marvin said pretty much what I was gonna say (although imo it was on topic).

The sonichu figurines were kind of a unique situation, in that I don't think Chris expected or was prepared for a sales volume of that magnitude. That was indeed a big fuckup on Chris' part, but not really a repeatable situation.

Didn't he do a bunch of pre-orders and special requests too? That's the worst way to do it, especially if the person tends to let things slide, because there could be a log jam between receiving the orders and making the product.

He should have just made a mediallion, took a photo of it and then put it up for auction.

I didn't say you said he never sent anything. Reread my post. I said "never (or essentially never)" and yeah, that's very much what it sounds like you're saying here.

It sounds like you believe Chris' successful delivery percentage to be close to zero. Maybe not literally zero, but pretty low, like 30% or less.

That's not the case. Chris fulfills the vast majority of the requests he receives.

Actually, Chris has always had pretty solid ebay ratings. He's a pretty good seller on ebay when the buyers aren't weens looking to fuck with him.

He gets most of them on time.

re the first sentence: my bad then. Sorry 'bout that.

Excluding weens, It looks like his on time delivery rate is about 85%, which sucks. I'm judging that number by the complaints I see. I'm sure you'll disagree on the number.

Chris' customers are self-cucking themselves. In fact, market forces should dictate Chris should send out less product than he does.

A Self-cuck sounds a heck of a lot like sucker, tho a cuck is a sucker and not all suckers are cucks.

We're starting to post some serious text walls so I'm gonna drop the subject unless I can sum something up in a paragraph.

In an aside, I like @neural 's post. I don't mean to insinuate that Chris is a crook. He just has his head up his ass and can't do things the right way.

Also, I don't know how he can get anything done in that hoard. I don't know how anyone could.

 

[Done]

Ignoring him trying to lure a girl to his house by pretending to be someone else
Or claiming things bought on credit are fan-gifts to keep barb from hassling him
Or claiming he needs money for bills rather than toys
Or buying games at a cheap price and trying to fob another store he bought it there for a higher price but list the proof
Or shoplifting



Or that he was honour roll

A lot of this is:

1. Chris being a spoiled child.
2. Chris being prodded on by trolls.
3. Chris being stupid.

And I believe Chris DID get on the honor roll, but the problem was how he got there lol.

Yes. The same way that people who give money to MLM are being conned. Or that buy shitty cars. People are giving him money to be "part of Christory", which is stupid because it doesn't make one part of Christory anymore than Tweeting him "You are stupid" does. It isn't "owning part of Christory" either, because it's not like these shitty drawings are historical CWC documents.

Especially when he's got a reputation of not delivering

It's not really being conned, it's more like wasting their money.

Chris doesn't actively go out and con people, he opened a store with actual (shitty) products and people are buying. So don't blame him for selling a product that amazingly, has actual demand behind it. Even if that demand is inflated by weenery.

Remember, Chris always had the delusion that Sonichu was destined to make him millions, and the current activity on his store sort of reaffirms that delusion in his head.

I wouldn't be completely surprised to see him blaming the trolls for him not doing it earlier or something.

 

[MMX]

A lot of this is:

1. Chris being a spoiled child.
2. Chris being prodded on by trolls.
3. Chris being stupid.

And I believe Chris DID get on the honor roll, but the problem was how he got there

That's more reasons/excuses for being dishonest than saying he's not dishonest.
Granted Chris tends to believe he's lying "for the greater good" but it's still dishonest.
He only really generally stops his charade when he can't keep his lies straight anymore.
Trolls didn't make Chris shoplift, they didn't teach him his returns trick between stores and they didn't (maybe) convince him to pretend to be liquid Chris so he could fuck kacey.
Just cause Chris thinks everyone is a "mark" doesn't make him any less dishonest.
If Chris wants something he will usually do any amount of double think bulls hit to get it, rather than working on it.

 

[Done]

That's more reasons/excuses for being dishonest than saying he's not dishonest.
Granted Chris tends to believe he's lying "for the greater good" but it's still dishonest.
He only really generally stops his charade when he can't keep his lies straight anymore.

You need to understand that one of Chris's biggest problems is him being far too honest and immediate with his reactions and statements.

Chris simply doesn't know how to hide anything, whatever's on his mind is almost immediately revealed somehow. This is why he gets trolled, because people love his reactions to things and want to constantly know more.

If he did know, then this board would've never existed in the 1st place, because there would not be much to discuss..

A lot of Chris's lies (especially the ones he tells himself) are more to cover up how inept and useless he really is. They are not meant to get money or anything else (Maybe China is an exception here, dude is/was thirsty).

Meanwhile, actual dishonest people are always showing people a different persona than their real one. Which is like complete anathema to what Chris is.

When Chris does anything, good or bad, that's actually the real him doing this as a result of whatever stimuli he was experiencing (some of this is artificial stimuli manufactured by trolls though).