Containment Random Thoughts & Questions

[TrippinKahlua]

In the 80s, Bob was too interested in watching Fraggle Rock, playing NES and Commodore, and listening to Sesame Street records while he was swinging on his swing. That's why the abusive babysitter was ignored. All this while he was in his 60s, mind you.

What 60 year old watches Fraggle Rock and plays NES?

 

[AnOminous]

Yeah I know. I don't know if that is due in part to Bob just giving up, or if it was Barb pushing for it. Bob also pushed Chris into getting his CAD degree and his job at Wendy's. Like I said, Bob wasn't the best parent, but I still think he's the better one if Barb is the sole competition.

He put more effort into it than Barb, and gave up when Chris tarded his way out of a job at Wendy's by scaring the children with weird, creepy behavior, including apparently a Donald Duck impression, after being told to quit creeping people out.

The thing is he could understand being told not to do some very specific creepy thing, like don't do that fucking Donald Duck impression, but he's such an autistic creep that "quit being creepy" wouldn't work on him. He'd do some new creepy shit he hadn't specifically been told not to do.

 

[Argh My Cigar]

In the 80s, Bob was too interested in watching Fraggle Rock, playing NES and Commodore, and listening to Sesame Street records while he was swinging on his swing. That's why the abusive babysitter was ignored. All this while he was in his 60s, mind you.

What 60 year old watches Fraggle Rock and plays NES?

It's really sad because it seemed like Bob legitimately had an interest in game consoles from a purely engineering standpoint. Usually conservative, Texan born dubya-dubya tew veterans would refer to them as an unholy tool designed by the heathen tojos to brainwash american children in retribution for Hiroshima.

He probably thought Chris's fixation on games would've turned into a career in Computer Science, IT or engineering. Instead it turned into a vessel for Chris's autism and imaginary worlds.

 

[Mason Verger]

It's really sad because it seemed like Bob legitimately had an interest in game consoles from a purely engineering standpoint. Usually conservative, Texan born dubya-dubya tew veterans would refer to them as an unholy tool designed by the heathen tojos to brainwash american children in retribution for Hiroshima.

He probably though Chris's fixation on games would've turned into a career in Computer Science, IT or engineering. Instead it turned into a vessel for Chris's autism and imaginary worlds.

It’s the nature vs nurture debate. With a different autistic kid, Bobs methods could’ve been exactly what’s needed. Sometimes you just can’t discount the fact that Chris was born to be lazy.

Also bob was a Korean War vet. And as another feather in his cap, apparently was really fond of Koreans. Enough to attend a Korean church.

 

[Replicant Sasquatch]

Bob was stationed at Korea prior to the war's outbreak. He got out of the Army in 48.

 

[Argh My Cigar]

Also bob was a Korean War vet.

Ah, my bad. I read that he had the WWII Victory Medal, but he was only entitled to it because he served from 1946-1948.

And as another feather in his cap, apparently was really fond of Koreans

At this point, can we just assume pre-Tomgirl Chris's views on race were more from Barb's influence than Bob's? Or is it just because Family Guy taught Chris that black people liked to steal things? I'm guessing the latter.

 

[Mason Verger]

Bob was stationed at Korea prior to the war's outbreak. He got out of the Army in 48.

Yeah I should've said "served in Korea".

I have a secret hope that Bob got a Korean girl pregnant, she later bore a bastard son that went on to work for a Korean animation studio that would produce the cartoons that would fuck Chris's head up in the 80s.

Like an autistic Asian curse cycle.

 

[Cardboard Box Mountain]

In the 80s, Bob was too interested in watching Fraggle Rock, playing NES and Commodore, and listening to Sesame Street records while he was swinging on his swing. That's why the abusive babysitter was ignored. All this while he was in his 60s, mind you.

What 60 year old watches Fraggle Rock and plays NES?

For his generation, it would be unusual. For the cohort that's getting older now, you don't think that people who grew up playing video games are gonna put them down and say "Welp. I have reached X age. I no longer enjoy video gaming." No, man, we're gonna be playing them in the nursing homes, those who can still see anyway. But Bob always seemed like an eclectic sort of guy, all political conservatism aside. I don't see him writing off any shows, music, or games simply due to his age.

 

[Sexy Senior Citizen]

Random question: has Chris ever reconciled his belief that fictional characters are real with his love of the Saw franchise? After all, if fictional characters are real, wouldn't his watching the Saw movies mean he's watching snuff films?

 

[Chrus Chundlur]

Random question: has Chris ever reconciled his belief that fictional characters are real with his love of the Saw franchise? After all, if fictional characters are real, wouldn't his watching the Saw movies mean he's watching snuff films?

Chris is probably too dense to give it that much thought or connect the dots.

After all, this is the same goddamn moron that, in the same conversation, theorized that Clyde Cash was both an elementary school kid and that he traveled to Australia to rape PandaHalo.

 

[Floop]

Random question: has Chris ever reconciled his belief that fictional characters are real with his love of the Saw franchise? After all, if fictional characters are real, wouldn't his watching the Saw movies mean he's watching snuff films?

Oh god yes. Chris’s unusual fixation on the saw films was always hilarious. Maybe he could rewatch them to get inspiration for fitting punishments for all da trolling stupids when the merge happens. I’m just imagining him building an elaborate deathly escape room, and narrating all the time when he puts all who’ve wronged him inside it.

 

[Argh My Cigar]

Oh god yes. Chris’s unusual fixation on the saw films was always hilarious. Maybe he could rewatch them to get inspiration for fitting punishments for all da trolling stupids when the merge happens. I’m just imagining him building an elaborate deathly escape room, and narrating all the time when he puts all who’ve wronged him inside it.

Waaaay back during the “Golden Age” of Christory, I always thought the most fitting trap would be him being forced to torch his own horde of crap in his room, like Jeff’s test in Saw III where the only way he could save the judge was to incinerate all of his dead son’s toys.

Then the house fire happened, ironically by Chris’s own hand.

 

[Syaoran Li]

In the 80s, Bob was too interested in watching Fraggle Rock, playing NES and Commodore, and listening to Sesame Street records while he was swinging on his swing. That's why the abusive babysitter was ignored. All this while he was in his 60s, mind you.

What 60 year old watches Fraggle Rock and plays NES?

I don't think Bob was actually a fan of Fraggle Rock. When Chris was a kid, Bob may have watched it with him and Chris probably thinks Bob actually enjoyed the show as much as he did. As for the Seasame Street records, some of the early Sesame Street albums from the 70's are actually considered quite valuable for collectors, and Bob always was an avid music collector.

The NES and Commodore stuff isn't that unusual when you think about it, especially given what we know about Bob and the fact that the Commodore 64 was one of the first home computers to take off in the United States.

It's really sad because it seemed like Bob legitimately had an interest in game consoles from a purely engineering standpoint. Usually conservative, Texan born dubya-dubya tew veterans would refer to them as an unholy tool designed by the heathen tojos to brainwash american children in retribution for Hiroshima.

He probably thought Chris's fixation on games would've turned into a career in Computer Science, IT or engineering. Instead it turned into a vessel for Chris's autism and imaginary worlds.

This. I've noticed that a lot of old guys with a background in engineering, electronics, or computers actually do like to play video games even if it's not the norm for others in their age group. Bob was an electrical engineer, so it is possible he really did like to play NES video games in his spare time, especially since he was a retired pensioner by the time Chris was a kid.

 

[Argh My Cigar]

This. I've noticed that a lot of old guys with a background in engineering, electronics, or computers actually do like to play video games even if it's not the norm for others in their age group. Bob was an electrical engineer, so it is possible he really did like to play NES video games in his spare time, especially since he was a retired pensioner by the time Chris was a kid.

Bob seemed pretty open to whatever cutting edge technology that was pertinent to the time when he was bringing up lil’ Chris. Back in the 70s-mid 80s, there was no such thing as a Computer Science major— most guys who got in on the technology boom came from engineering, physics (Richard Stallman comes to mind, oddly enough him and Chris both share an incontinence problem), and mathematics schools.

Bob was retired so he was mainly keeping on top of what was going on marketwise for Chris’s sake which was why he had him transferred into the CADD course. From his perspective, he saw Chris spending hours on the family PC and assumed he had a modicum of technical skill (when in actuality all Chris used it for was his Sonichu crap). Alas, because of Barb’s influence, he was more interested in toys & games. It’s kinda funny since back in the late 2000s people were contrasting Chris and Ulillillia; Chris liked games purely from the fandom/consumer angle, Uli liked them for their relation to math and logic.

Tbh I would’ve loved to have had a dad or grandparent like Bob teach me about how computers worked, since my family background is mostly blue collar. I always found this photo of Bob reading about IBM’s proprietary hardware oddly comfy.

 

[Floop]

Were both of Chris’s parents hoarders?

 

[Argh My Cigar]

Were both of Chris’s parents hoarders?

Yes. Both Bob and Barb were compulsive hoaders, though Bob rationalized his as a result of a childhood spent in poverty. Barb was also pretty poor growing up AFAIK, but she had to manipulate her way into the arms of sugar daddies to claw her way out— the fucking rube that she is. Bob has the excuse of at least working for what he had. I could give a fuck if Barb’s shit was put toward Chris’s expenses (read: frivolities), but Bob’s stuff meant something to him.

 

[Floop]

Yes. Both Bob and Barb were compulsive hoaders, though Bob rationalized his as a result of a childhood spent in poverty. Barb was also pretty poor growing up AFAIK, but she had to manipulate her way into the arms of sugar daddies to claw her way out— the fucking rube that she is. Bob has the excuse of at least working for what he had. I could give a fuck if Barb’s shit was put toward Chris’s expenses (read: frivolities), but Bob’s stuff meant something to him.

I had a grandpa that was married to a hoarder. I feel for Bob here.

 

[Syaoran Li]

Were both of Chris’s parents hoarders?

We know Barb is, the jury is still out on Bob. Personally, I don't think Bob was a hoarder, at least not in the sense that Barb is.

Yes. Both Bob and Barb were compulsive hoaders, though Bob rationalized his as a result of a childhood spent in poverty. Barb was also pretty poor growing up AFAIK, but she had to manipulate her way into the arms of sugar daddies to claw her way out— the fucking rube that she is. Bob has the excuse of at least working for what he had. I could give a fuck if Barb’s shit was put toward Chris’s expenses (read: frivolities), but Bob’s stuff meant something to him.

Based on what we know about him, Bob doesn't really strike me as a clinical hoarder. If Bob had any hoarding behaviors, they were a lot less severe than Barb's. It's likely that Bob was just a collector and not a clinical compulsive hoarder, but Barb is most certainly a hoarder.

Bob did have a vast record collection, but he actually did his best to take care of his records (while still being able to enjoy them) unlike most hoarders, who simply gather whatever objects they are fixed on (food, animals, random trinkets) and hold onto them for the sake of owning them.

Bob tried to clean up the hoard many times, but Barb always threw a fit and would not let him. That is a common trait of hoarders. Bob knew Barb had a problem, but was too old and weak to do anything about it.

Also, Barb didn't start hoarding until later in her life. I'm not sure when 14 Branchland Court became the hoarded mess it is infamous for, but it happened after Chris graduated high school and before Chris was discovered by ED.

Chris's house was relatively clean and showed no signs of hoarding in the pictures of his 18th birthday party. Granted, that was back when he was living in Chesterfield County and not Ruckersville, but if Barb was living with them at the time, she wasn't hoarding yet.

Chris graduated high school in June 2000 and was discovered by ED in October 2007, and given how bad the house was in the first house tour videos back in 2009, I'd wager the hoarding began in earnest at some point in the early 2000's.

If Bob was a true and honest hoarder, we'll never know the extent of it because Barb's uncontrolled hoard overtook the place and any valuable items Bob may have had in his collections were either destroyed in the fire or hocked by Barb.

 

[Picklechu]

Also, Barb didn't start hoarding until later in her life. I'm not sure when 14 Branchland Court became the hoarded mess it is infamous for, but it happened after Chris graduated high school and before Chris was discovered by ED.

Chris's house was relatively clean and showed no signs of hoarding in the pictures of his 18th birthday party. Granted, that was back when he was living in Chesterfield County and not Ruckersville, but if Barb was living with them at the time, she wasn't hoarding yet.

Chris graduated high school in June 2000 and was discovered by ED in October 2007, and given how bad the house was in the first house tour videos back in 2009, I'd wager the hoarding began in earnest at some point in the early 2000's.

Barb lived in 14BC while Chris and Bob were in Chesterfield County from 1992-1996. I'm not sure if we have any pictures of either house during this time period, but the pictures of the Chesterfield house did look a bit cluttered after Barb moved in; definitely not to the point of being a Hoard, though.

I vaguely recall some of the boxes stacked up at 14BC in the "week with Christian" school project photos still being visible in the same location in the living room around a decade later, but I don't remember exactly.

I'd be willing to wager that she's always had some hoarding tendencies, which, for whatever reason, got worse at some point in or after 2000. It may be semi-interesting to look in the background of photos pre-1996.

 

[AzureAzel]

Barb lived in 14BC while Chris and Bob were in Chesterfield County from 1992-1996. I'm not sure if we have any pictures of either house during this time period, but the pictures of the Chesterfield house did look a bit cluttered after Barb moved in; definitely not to the point of being a Hoard, though.

I vaguely recall some of the boxes stacked up at 14BC in the "week with Christian" school project photos still being visible in the same location in the living room around a decade later, but I don't remember exactly.

I'd be willing to wager that she's always had some hoarding tendencies, which, for whatever reason, got worse at some point in or after 2000. It may be semi-interesting to look in the background of photos pre-1996.

What does hoarding even fall under, anyway? Is it a side-effect of menopause? Linked to a mental deficiency? What causes people to just stop and say "I need everything I see, and now."?