Containment Random Thoughts & Questions

[The American Hedgehog]

If Bob were the living parent, would any of the dimensional merge stuff fly with him? I don't imagine Chris trooning out would, but Bob let Chris' delusions fester like Barb has?

Might not have gotten that bad. Chris's delusions are pretty much coping mechanisms for the state of his life. And his life quality went downhill after Bob died. He was the one who ran the household and finances and enabled Chris to live comfortably. If Bob had survived the Financhu Crisis wouldn't have happened, which was one of the stressors that lead Chris to snap and pursue his delusions.

Chris carved up his taint because he thought he would get one step closer to China. I'm of the opinion Chris doesn't actually have dysphoria in a traditional sense, he's gone on record saying how pleased he is with himself, how he's definitely not a fat fuck, how strong he is. Not dysphoria just delusion.

He slashed his taint because he wanted his own vagina to play with. Dysphoria and delusion aren't mutually exclusive, a person can have both.

I know a lot of actual trans people who lead normal lives, and while most of them are pretty uncomfortable talking about Chris they all agree that Chris isn’t trans. I do find it interesting that most of my trans friends at one point in their life tried to over adjust for their birth gender shortly before coming to terms with their gender identity. For example a period of hyper femininity a few months before coming out. It could be very easy to confuse Chris’ weird ego driven gender norms and ideas of masculinity with dysphoria based on an assessment.

If they're uncomfortable about Chris they might be trying to distance themselves from him and don't want to admit they have something in common with him.

Looking at how the DSM summarizes gender dysphoria, I'm not seeing how Chris could be excluded from it. He matches the symptoms and there doesn't seem to be exemptions for his notions of gender. https://www.theravive.com/therapedia/gender-dysphoria-dsm--5-302.85-(f64.9)

 

[Tikbalang]

Might not have gotten that bad. Chris's delusions are pretty much coping mechanisms for the state of his life. And his life quality went downhill after Bob died. He was the one who ran the household and finances and enabled Chris to live comfortably. If Bob had survived the Financhu Crisis wouldn't have happened, which was one of the stressors that lead Chris to snap and pursue his delusions.


He slashed his taint because he wanted his own vagina to play with. Dysphoria and delusion aren't mutually exclusive, a person can have both.


If they're uncomfortable about Chris they might be trying to distance themselves from him and don't want to admit they have something in common with him.

Looking at how the DSM summarizes gender dysphoria, I'm not seeing how Chris could be excluded from it. He matches the symptoms and there doesn't seem to be exemptions for his notions of gender. https://www.theravive.com/therapedia/gender-dysphoria-dsm--5-302.85-(f64.9)

If Chris wants to be a woman, why he didn't beg online for his sex change surgery?

 

[Alex Krycek]

If Chris wants to be a woman, why he didn't beg online for his sex change surgery?

Because he’s also delusional and thinks he can get it done through magical hypnosis videos and hormones. Wise actually talked about this some in the Idea Guys Chat. He thinks that with enough hypnosis and magical thinking he can obtain a female form. Is it stupid? Yes. But as I said above Chris doesn’t think like a normal person.

It’s like @The American Hedgehog said, Dysphoria and Delusion are not exclusive.

 

[Mr. 0]

die chris

barb's not getting any younger, you know

 

[Mariposa Electrique]

Here’s where I disagree on Chris anyway. He always had trouble doing masculine things in general. It came off as forced and rather awkward.

Because he's always excelled at feminity? The absence of gender does not equal to feminity. That's a very phallocentric way of thinking about feminity. Just because he can't fix a car doesn't mean he's failed at masculine stuff. Pre-Tomgirl Chris was always very aggressive, and he's still great at stalking women. He even still collects boys toys. I think you're confusing his utter mental retardation with femininity. Please don't

 

[Misaki Nakahara]

Just remember the Un-Clit and the Self Inflicted Taint Wound.

Must I?

 

[NoodleFucker3000]

How the fuck does this moron keep his drivers license.

For real. You'd think with the whole vehicular assault thing.

 

[CwChalk]

I posted earlier in this thread where I spent some time pondering his dysphoria. It's a problem that's compounded by his autism as he has no idea what society's expectations are for gender roles. What little he does know is skewed by the media he watches, this is why he doesn't truly understand women or men(or super masculine men like myself). For the entirety of his life he always displayed more feminine qualities even as a child, so in his twisted logic that has more in common with women MUST mean he's trans, and a diagnosis proves it. He only fails at the idea of masculinity because he has the mind of a child along with his general incompetence.

I gave one example where he doesn't like looking other's pickles, and I don't think he understands that most straight men don't like looking at them either. I wonder if he became eunuch that his circumstances will start making more sense to himself?

 

[LinkinParkxNaruto[AMV]]

I think for Chris being a girl is just another anime fantasy, with a proper protocol and more gatekeeping his claims would be dismissed and he must likely be put on anti-psychotics because his encompassing problem is a very bad case of dellusional personality disorder, his supposed disphoria is just a manifestation just as thinking cartoons are real .
Maybe his case overlaps sometimes with that of other transgenders who are more sane despite their condition, but i still think nothing Chris says should have been taken at face value and he would have had to be put to a lot more psychiatric therapy for his consent to matter at all.

On the subject of how he really does have Dysphoria. Just remember the Un-Clit and the Self Inflicted Taint Wound.

Remember? wish i could forget

 

[A Grey Cat]

Dysphoria or delusional, troon or not we can all agree on one thing. Chris fell out the ugly tree and hit every branch on the way down


In his youth at his best he looked like a time displaced pedo from the 70s mixed with a dork in the 90s.

Eventually he ended up looking like a fat neckbeard who was aging badly due to poor life and health choices , and that was made worse by adding gender confusion and disphoria on top of it.

 

[Syaoran Li]

It seems he missed out on a lot of the cooler mainstream media stuff stretching all the way back to the 80s. Recently I think it was revealed he never watched Predator(1987), and speaking of the 80s I've never seen him mention Terminator, Alien, Aliens, Blade Runner. Which means he also missed out on the era when stores would sell action figures from R-rated movies. I've never seen him reference Eddie Murphy's Raw and Delirious, which is a bit odd as Eddie was huge in the 80s. He was never too into violent media, instead watching Sailor Moon and My Little Pony.

He said he liked one or two of the Saw movies, which is kind of an enigma considering what we know. He was ever into FPS games either, a fan once sent him Half-Life 2 which he threw to the side because he doesn't like PC gaming. I suppose it's possible Borb kept him from these kind of things too.

I think a lot of that had to do with him being a small child in the 80's with very conservative old-school Southern parents who were from the Silent Generation (after the Great Generation but before the Boomers) since there's a good chance that the D&D cartoon from the 80's or The A-Team would've been too risque for Borb's comfort, let alone something like Eddie Murphy: Raw or Aliens.

While Borb seemed neglectful and apathetic as parents, I do think they were far more attentive when Chris was a little kid in the 80's, particularly after the Abusive Babysitter incident.

But yeah, Chris was always into more kiddie or girly media even back then. About the only thing he got really into at the right age and time was Sonic and possibly TMNT as well. He hopped on the Pokemania train in the late 90's but the other boys in his age group were more likely to be into stuff like Resident Evil, South Park, Attitude Era WWF, Cowboy Bebop, Metal Gear Solid, Vampire: The Masquerade, Quake, The Matrix, The X-Files, or even Gundam Wing and The Simpsons.

I think he may have liked Sailor Moon before he met Megan since it was airing when he was in high school and for a couple years after he graduated, but My Little Pony was definitely due to Megan's influence since she apparently liked the original show from the 80's.

I can see getting into Sailor Moon to impress a girl since there were actually a lot of boys who usually watched Sailor Moon either for the fight scenes (since it was the most action-packed girls cartoon) or because they had a crush on one of the Sailor Scouts. You usually didn't say it out loud in front of the other guys, but it was actually a common thing especially when Sailor Moon aired on Toonami and was often airing right alongside DBZ which was extremely popular with boys back in the day. The really cringe part about it is that Chris was doing so as an adult at least a few years after Sailor Moon stopped airing, while it'd be more understandable for some middle school kid in the late 90's

Chris was always behind the curve except for a few key areas where he was disturbingly ahead of it (he was more or less the proto-incel, the first brony, and Tomgirl was more or less a training wheels version of trooning out) and aside from Sonic, Transformers, and TMNT, he was never all that into "guy stuff" and he mainly got into Pokemon because it looked cutesy to him

Him liking Saw was probably the result of the trolls messing with him and him trying to act like he was more grown-up than he actually was.

 

[Zooted]

I can see getting into Sailor Moon to impress a girl since there were actually a lot of boys who usually watched Sailor Moon either for the fight scenes (since it was the most action-packed girls cartoon) or because they had a crush on one of the Sailor Scouts. You usually didn't say it out loud in front of the other guys, but it was actually a common thing especially when Sailor Moon aired on Toonami and was often airing right alongside DBZ which was extremely popular with boys back in the day. The really cringe part about it is that Chris was doing so as an adult at least a few years after Sailor Moon stopped airing, while it'd be more understandable for some middle school kid in the late 90's

I always found any recording of Chris doing the ‘cutesy’ voice really uncomfortable personally (see the way he talks about hamtaro to his mother at Christmas and the change in his tone during the Future message video specifically when he mentions my little pony) and I think it’s pretty indicative of Chris and his confusion with gender norms. It’s almost comical that watching a couple of more girly animated shows was one of the more normal things Chris did, considering for most boys it was a short lived phase as a kid that would have been utterly shameful to have exposed

 

[Alex Krycek]

Because he's always excelled at feminity? The absence of gender does not equal to feminity. That's a very phallocentric way of thinking about feminity. Just because he can't fix a car doesn't mean he's failed at masculine stuff. Pre-Tomgirl Chris was always very aggressive, and he's still great at stalking women. He even still collects boys toys. I think you're confusing his utter mental retardation with femininity. Please don't

Aggression and creepy behavior also aren’t synonymous with masculinity, there’s plenty of eccentric, aggressive, and creepy women. There’s lots of girls that collect boy stuff and vice versa that don’t cause bodily harm to themselves in order to grow a vagina. I never said he excelled at femininity and I usually even laugh at his attempts at it. However I do say that he’s genuinely doing what he believes to be the more feminine option for himself and actively chooses it over the masculine one for a reason other than just China (although that likely is at least a factor, remember his brain doesn’t work like a normal persons).

 

[Hogar Grupal]

It’s almost comical that watching a couple of more girly animated shows was one of the more normal things Chris did, considering for most boys it was a short lived phase as a kid that would have been utterly shameful to have exposed

I wonder if Bob ever saw this and said to Chris not to watch stuff like MLP, or if he brushed it off as Chris was having a phase.

 

[Naamaleipuri]

Y'know, this has probably been said before, but I really hate the multiverse theory.
It makes absolutely no sense.
So if there's an universe where multiple universes converge and it's all real. There has to be an universe where multiverses don't exist. So then they can't exist and can exist creating a paradox.
Bet you all 2500 W-quarters that our universe is the one where multiverses don't exist.

 

[Syaoran Li]

I wonder if Bob ever saw this and said to Chris not to watch stuff like MLP, or if he brushed it off as Chris was having a phase.

Stuff like Chris watching Sailor Moon was probably brushed off as a phase, same for buying old MLP dolls since I think Chris would've probably mentioned Megan if Bob asked about it.

By the time Chris was into the MLP cartoon from the 2010's, he already was a Tomgirl while Bob was nearing the end and had already long stopped caring at that point.

 

[TV's Adam West]

In the original so need a cute girl, does anyone know which backstreet boys cd in particular he's singing over?

 

[A Grey Cat]

The irony is had Bob at least been open to letting Chris see more masculine 80s media (predator, commando, rocky The A team mash) then maybe Chris would have had better grip on masculity and it's traits. Sure nowadays the modern leftist media decrays these icons as relics of "toxic masculinity" bit really they're perfect examples of why masculinity is nessicary when it isn't toxic and none of these examples are.

 

[CwChalk]

The irony is had Bob at least been open to letting Chris see more masculine 80s media (predator, commando, rocky The A team mash) then maybe Chris would have had better grip on masculity and it's traits. Sure nowadays the modern leftist media decrays these icons as relics of "toxic masculinity" bit really they're perfect examples of why masculinity is nessicary when it isn't toxic and none of these examples are.

Everyone knows watching Predator turns you into a goddamn sexual tyrannosaurus.

I dunno, given his penchant for taking his social cues from media in the form of shows for children might explain why he never showed any typical masculine traits. There were no examples for him to build on, except Bob, but he was old for Chris' entire life plus he never washed his hands. The closest masculine figure to him was Sonic, a very non-threatening concept.

 

[elkinbub]

I'm wondering if anyone has any insight or thoughts into Chris's toy and video game purchases, specifically regarding whether or not he ever buys vintage classics or if he pretty much only buys new stuff.

I ask this because to me (and I'm not an expert) it seems like he has the mind of a goldfish and is nearly 100% interested only in new stuff that's currently being marketed.

Like, in the past few decades we've seen a huge rise in the number of adult toy collectors and retro video gamers. On first glance, Chris seems like a forerunner of that stuff. He still cares about '80s properties like Transformers and MLP (which he liked before the reboot) and classic video games like Sonic. But unlike other adults who are into this stuff, Chris doesn't seem to care about collecting per se. Instead he seems to want to play with this stuff like a kid.

Or am I wrong? Has he been known to drop hundreds of dollars on vintage G1 Transformers? Has he ever gone back, bought another Genesis and played the old Sonic games in order, from original cartridges, like an actual retro gamer connoisseur might do? Does he ever buy old Legos, or only expensive new Lego sets?

It just seems like this might be a somewhat significant part of his psychology. He's into a lot of retro properties and brands from his childhood, but he only cares about buying new iterations of them. Are there exceptions to this? Thoughts?