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Chan Fan said:
There was a leaked TMI email of him talking about so yep, sadly it's true. Chris found the pro himself, not set up by a troll
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How is that “sad”?!

Fuck, losing his virginity is one of the few success stories Chris does have, that’s not manufactured by trolls.

I mean sure, I guess it could have been more entertaining if Chris was still desperately trying to get the “Virgin breaker” or if he died as a virgin.

But I’m proud of the little sperg for managing to pull this off and am happy he finally got a win.
 
Fapcop said:
How is that “sad”?!

Fuck, losing his virginity is one of the few success stories Chris does have, that’s not manufactured by trolls.

I mean sure, I guess it could have been more entertaining if Chris was still desperately trying to get the “Virgin breaker” or if he died as a virgin.

But I’m proud of the little sperg for managing to pull this off and am happy he finally got a win.
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It's sad by Chris's own standards - he wanted it to be with his girlfriend
 
Fapcop said:
How is that “sad”?!

Fuck, losing his virginity is one of the few success stories Chris does have, that’s not manufactured by trolls.

I mean sure, I guess it could have been more entertaining if Chris was still desperately trying to get the “Virgin breaker” or if he died as a virgin.

But I’m proud of the little sperg for managing to pull this off and am happy he finally got a win.
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Because it defeated the end goal of the love quests (or what they could have amounted to if he wasn't such a retard with people and relationships) and I don't think giving his virginity to a hooker was ever on the cards for most of his life, you know considering his ego, his sexual frustration got the better of him.
 
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Chan Fan said:
There was a leaked TMI email of him talking about so yep, sadly it's true. Chris found the pro himself, not set up by a troll
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Some troll helped him by providing the Backpage ads.

LinkinParkxNaruto[AMV] said:
Sure, but i mean, i actually thought that was just something Chris made up as he also made a whole story about this hooker being a half cherokee who fell in love with his bent dick, just seemed like another larp.
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It's real since he shut up about the virgin-with-rage stuff afterwards.
 
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LinkinParkxNaruto[AMV] said:
Sure, but i mean, i actually thought that was just something Chris made up as he also made a whole story about this hooker being a half cherokee who fell in love with his bent dick, just seemed like another larp.
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She was probably lying about being half-cherokee and hookers always say their clients dick is good
 
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Been following Chris since I was 14 in 2008 until now in 2020. Got a medical degree in this time. Back in the day I was convinced that this whole thing was a very elaborate setup and that Chris simply couldn't be a real individual. Nowadays things make more sense.

Chris pretty much is a case study in the effects of cyber bullying in an individual with autism. It goes beyond my understanding why Bob did not simply forbid Chris from using the internet at all due to how clearly his psyche was being negatively affected by it, but then again, Bob also seemed to believe that Sonichu was genuinely famous? Strange situation but definitely poor parenting (You'll have to consider it parenting even though Chris was 20-30 years old at the time, since there never really has been any emancipation from the parents). Which honestly is a recurring theme all the way back to the mistake of getting Chris a diagnosis (good) but not pursuing therapy and support at any point.

Chris could've benefitted from such things in their late teens or even middle twenties. Even if the issues were ignored in their formative years, there would still have been room to remedy those. Chris might never have become a social butterfly even then, but a fairly normal life would not have been out of the question.

I'm in agreement with most people on here that Barbara has caused the most damage in Chris's life, however. The fact that she threatened with suicide and her own death on so many occasions, all for the motive of not letting Chris go, is so malicious and damaging. One shudders to think of what Chris went through in childhood - emotional violence and manipulation of children can absolutely result in just as bad if not even worse damage than actual physical child abuse.

I do not think that Chris qualifies for any psychiatric disorder outside of autism. The escapism/maladaptive daydreaming, imaginary friends/marriage partners etc can in my opinion all be explained by a combination of poor life satisfaction and having an elaborate autistic special interest (CWCville, OCs). Furthermore, issues such as escapism and paranoia, which both are present in Chris, tend to become more severe in situations of bullying. The fact that autism is in the picture means that it is hard for Chris to put the bullying and trolling into context - instead of perhaps looking into their own behavior as part of a larger social system ("Is there something I'm doing that makes me targeted by trolls?") , it resolves as feelings of helplessness. From this, it's not at all unreasonable to expect that a person with potential for escapism would spiral into such behaviors.

Chris's problems with believing that CWCville is real stem from the same root cause as his not having a good concept of death - abstract subjects are often difficult for a person with autism to fathom, especially without adequate therapy. A prime example of this is also the Father Call where Chris genuinely relates the death of a dog with somebody's mother dying.

There are issues with low self-esteem in there too along with poor ability to understand social cues which I believe most often manifest as problems with setting and enforcing boundaries and saying no. So many of the "sweethearts" should have alerted even a desperate person with how they spoke of private things that Chris hadn't told them personally (including literally quoting things Chris had said before they even came into the picture). There are so many of the chat logs/transcripts where I've just slapped my forehead and thought "Please Chris, for the love of god, say 'No!' or leave the chat/phone call!" on multiple points, but Chris has of course remained, receiving more blackmail and abuse in the process.

I have no idea of whether Chris truly has transsexualism or not, but I feel that the least one can do is show respect and not misgender. Claiming that calling Chris a woman is enabling of delusions does in my opinion become moot when you consider the amount of damage that has already been done.

Chris has a family and own history of heart disease, is at least overweight (been a while since I got a good look at body shape but would guess around BMI 30?), has at least had hyperlipidemia, consumes large amounts of sodium and has a sedentary lifestyle. And HRT. These all point toward a pretty high risk profile for severe cardiovascular events. It's at least fortunate that there's no habitual smoking involved, but I would not be surprised if there are more ER visits for chest pain in Chris's future 5-6 years. Around 40-45 is when you start seeing the effects of a poor life style on the heart and cardiovascular system.

When Barb does pass it is unlikely that assisted living or group homes will ever come into the picture because I don't really think that Chris is low functioning per se - there is knowledge of how to live responsibly but Chris often decides that other things are more important than such responsibilities.

Turned into a pretty long rant but this sums up my thoughts on Chris. Tl;dr - Autism, not schizophrenia, not disabled to motivate becoming a ward of the state, parents carry a lot of the blame but also the trolls and bullying, physical health will probably take a sharp turn for the worse soon, ignore/show respect for the transsexualism but don't mock it.
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Not "misgender"? You said this:
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Chris's problems with believing that CWCville is real stem from the same root cause as his not having a good concept of death -
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Chris is a man poorly larping as a woman. He makes no effort to behave as women do. Enabling his delusions is not helpful.
 
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silentium said:
Been following Chris since I was 14 in 2008 until now in 2020. Got a medical degree in this time. Back in the day I was convinced that this whole thing was a very elaborate setup and that Chris simply couldn't be a real individual. Nowadays things make more sense.

Chris pretty much is a case study in the effects of cyber bullying in an individual with autism. It goes beyond my understanding why Bob did not simply forbid Chris from using the internet at all due to how clearly his psyche was being negatively affected by it, but then again, Bob also seemed to believe that Sonichu was genuinely famous? Strange situation but definitely poor parenting (You'll have to consider it parenting even though Chris was 20-30 years old at the time, since there never really has been any emancipation from the parents). Which honestly is a recurring theme all the way back to the mistake of getting Chris a diagnosis (good) but not pursuing therapy and support at any point.

Chris could've benefitted from such things in their late teens or even middle twenties. Even if the issues were ignored in their formative years, there would still have been room to remedy those. Chris might never have become a social butterfly even then, but a fairly normal life would not have been out of the question.

I'm in agreement with most people on here that Barbara has caused the most damage in Chris's life, however. The fact that she threatened with suicide and her own death on so many occasions, all for the motive of not letting Chris go, is so malicious and damaging. One shudders to think of what Chris went through in childhood - emotional violence and manipulation of children can absolutely result in just as bad if not even worse damage than actual physical child abuse.

I do not think that Chris qualifies for any psychiatric disorder outside of autism. The escapism/maladaptive daydreaming, imaginary friends/marriage partners etc can in my opinion all be explained by a combination of poor life satisfaction and having an elaborate autistic special interest (CWCville, OCs). Furthermore, issues such as escapism and paranoia, which both are present in Chris, tend to become more severe in situations of bullying. The fact that autism is in the picture means that it is hard for Chris to put the bullying and trolling into context - instead of perhaps looking into their own behavior as part of a larger social system ("Is there something I'm doing that makes me targeted by trolls?") , it resolves as feelings of helplessness. From this, it's not at all unreasonable to expect that a person with potential for escapism would spiral into such behaviors.

Chris's problems with believing that CWCville is real stem from the same root cause as his not having a good concept of death - abstract subjects are often difficult for a person with autism to fathom, especially without adequate therapy. A prime example of this is also the Father Call where Chris genuinely relates the death of a dog with somebody's mother dying.

There are issues with low self-esteem in there too along with poor ability to understand social cues which I believe most often manifest as problems with setting and enforcing boundaries and saying no. So many of the "sweethearts" should have alerted even a desperate person with how they spoke of private things that Chris hadn't told them personally (including literally quoting things Chris had said before they even came into the picture). There are so many of the chat logs/transcripts where I've just slapped my forehead and thought "Please Chris, for the love of god, say 'No!' or leave the chat/phone call!" on multiple points, but Chris has of course remained, receiving more blackmail and abuse in the process.

I have no idea of whether Chris truly has transsexualism or not, but I feel that the least one can do is show respect and not misgender. Claiming that calling Chris a woman is enabling of delusions does in my opinion become moot when you consider the amount of damage that has already been done.

Chris has a family and own history of heart disease, is at least overweight (been a while since I got a good look at body shape but would guess around BMI 30?), has at least had hyperlipidemia, consumes large amounts of sodium and has a sedentary lifestyle. And HRT. These all point toward a pretty high risk profile for severe cardiovascular events. It's at least fortunate that there's no habitual smoking involved, but I would not be surprised if there are more ER visits for chest pain in Chris's future 5-6 years. Around 40-45 is when you start seeing the effects of a poor life style on the heart and cardiovascular system.

When Barb does pass it is unlikely that assisted living or group homes will ever come into the picture because I don't really think that Chris is low functioning per se - there is knowledge of how to live responsibly but Chris often decides that other things are more important than such responsibilities.

Turned into a pretty long rant but this sums up my thoughts on Chris. Tl;dr - Autism, not schizophrenia, not disabled to motivate becoming a ward of the state, parents carry a lot of the blame but also the trolls and bullying, physical health will probably take a sharp turn for the worse soon, ignore/show respect for the transsexualism but don't mock it.
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Even enabling Chris by calling him "she" is better than calling him "they." If you insist on using this ungrammatical construction, end your life.
 
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Fapcop said:
How is that “sad”?!

Fuck, losing his virginity is one of the few success stories Chris does have, that’s not manufactured by trolls.

I mean sure, I guess it could have been more entertaining if Chris was still desperately trying to get the “Virgin breaker” or if he died as a virgin.

But I’m proud of the little sperg for managing to pull this off and am happy he finally got a win.
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Isn't paying for sexual services a crime in VA?

I don't think resorting to crime can be seen as a success story, not even in the context of it being a means to the end of losing your virginity. Because it really is no different than buying a service (except for it being illegal), which every person with money and the ability to talk can do.
 
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Not sure if this has been answered already, but with how much debt they have, did they ever have ANYTHING ceased? I'm sure the house is a lost cause, but any vehicle? Literally anything?
 
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I love how Barb just doesn't give a shit, pulls out a reverse mortgage, and simply waits to die
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I mean when you have nothing left to lose and a retard son who thinks he's Queen of ours and all parallel universes, a made up town, and Spergtopia, why not go out the way you lived, covered in bugs and disease in a hoard of literal garbage and scrap paid for with money you don't have, and stick someone else with the final bill like the white trash skank she is?
 
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silentium said:
I have no idea of whether Chris truly has transsexualism or not, but I feel that the least one can do is show respect and not misgender. Claiming that calling Chris a woman is enabling of delusions does in my opinion become moot when you consider the amount of damage that has already been done.
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Well Chris has been larping as Sonichu for six months now, so really you're misgendering Chris by not referring to Chris's contemporary situation as being something that HE is in. When the body known as Chris wakes up these days, that is HIM waking up, and he answers to the name Sonichu.

When Chris has done interviews in the last six months, the hosts and everyone else has to play along and pretend they're talking to Sonichu. EXACTLY the same as when he first became Christine.

TBH Chris is a lot nicer than most people who insist upon different pronouns and names. He mostly just casually corrects them. Like people in recent Discord Q&As keep addressing their questions to "Christine", but then Chris ("Sonichu") starts his answer off by getting them back on track. "Christine, what's your favorite color???" "Hm, Mama's favorite color? Let me think..."

If you're calling this person Christine or using female pronouns, you're behind the times. That's a very male consciousness inhabiting that body. Keep up, or be referred to as a slow-in-the-mind.

Seriously, though, does anyone think that maybe the adoption of the Sonichu persona could be some kind of course-correct for Chris? If Chris is actually trans then he would be uncomfortable as a male. And yet here for six months he's been going around as a male again.

I do think he has some sort of gender dysphoria. I don't think he's making up all of his gender issues. Not at all. He was more comfortable when he started wearing bras, for example. But he just doesn't present as female, period. I've known and referred to MtFs as "she" and "her" before. I have no problem doing that. With Chris it doesn't feel quite right.
 
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