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[AnOminous]

HERE IS THE OP -

Good catch. The tranny jannies already removed it.

Also holy shit, the people in that thread apparently exist on a diet of nothing but paint chips and library paste.

 

[Jon Osterman]

HERE IS THE OP -

As much as I want to believe it, there're too many things off.
The letters look like someone trying to recreate Chris' style rather than the style itself. He adds a few random capitalized words, crosses out a word because he "misspelled it", and is it even written in pen (I'm pretty sure it is but it looks pretty close to pencil).
What Chris says in the conversation seems like just extrapolations of what's already known. There's no real new information, in it, just a bunch of generalizations and already known details.
Heilberg's threat doesn't seem legally possible. I'm not a legal kiwi, I just know how to use google, but I don't think there'd be a law to legally stop someone from posting a letter they received because it's their property. Plus it's not like Heilberg would care what Chris says in the letter, he already got the tard deferred and anything said in the letter can't be used in court anyways.
Overall, seems like just an outwardly convincing fake.

 

[Phalanges Mycologist]

Good catch. The tranny jannies already removed it.
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I still had the Tab open.

 

[themarchivist2]

is it even written in pen (I'm pretty sure it is but it looks pretty close to pencil).

It's hard to tell but I think it is. You can see the ink bleed on the bottom of the 2's here, and the lines all look equal in thickness and darkness.

Heilberg's threat doesn't seem legally possible. I'm not a legal kiwi, I just know how to use google, but I don't think there'd be a law to legally stop someone from posting a letter they received because it's their property.

Empty legal threats happen all the time, like when Nintendo sends CADs to random fangames. He probably couldn't follow through, it's just there to scare people. I'm inclined to believe this is true unless it's proven false, but I wouldn't be surprised if it is.

 

[Hopkinsville Goblin]

Looks like ledddit yeeted the op.

Can't read the post, but Id imagine its just attention-seeking. I wouldn't imagine any rando could just visit Chris at this point if you cant even mail him.

You can often recover deleted posts from Reddit by using Unddit. You just have to change the URL so instead of reddit.com it goes to unddit.com. Example.

OP has reposted their story. One of the things I hate about Reddit is the moderators will delete anything without saying why. It's actually the #1 rule on the sidebar in /r/ChrisChanSonichu:

1. Anything may be removed without telling you shit. That includes you.

Every subreddit is full of these rules and posting anything on Reddit is like walking in a minefield because some overzealous kid wants to wield the banhammer.

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I think the lowercase a's look a bit different, Chris used to be better at closing the tops of the a.
I don't think he's writing with pencil, I think those are often banned in jails because the graphite can be used to short things out and cause electrical fires and stuff like that. It looks like the usual blue and black pens he's been using for jail art.

 

[Penis]

As much as I want to believe it, there're too many things off.
The letters look like someone trying to recreate Chris' style rather than the style itself. He adds a few random capitalized words, crosses out a word because he "misspelled it", and is it even written in pen (I'm pretty sure it is but it looks pretty close to pencil).
What Chris says in the conversation seems like just extrapolations of what's already known. There's no real new information, in it, just a bunch of generalizations and already known details.
Heilberg's threat doesn't seem legally possible. I'm not a legal kiwi, I just know how to use google, but I don't think there'd be a law to legally stop someone from posting a letter they received because it's their property. Plus it's not like Heilberg would care what Chris says in the letter, he already got the tard deferred and anything said in the letter can't be used in court anyways.
Overall, seems like just an outwardly convincing fake.

I don't know. Its generally extremely hard to be able to forge someone's handwriting. You can't just slow down and be careful, the speed of the pen on the paper makes a difference. I really tried to find something in them that would make it an obvious fake but couldn't.

Heilberg can make legal threats for pretty much any reason. IANAL, but I wouldn't imagine there is anything stopping him from sending empty threats to weens.

There was a good deal of new info in that letter, if true. Chris being super skinny, being medicated to the tits, Heilberg convincing him to not talk, etc. It would add up with the nuthouse incident that he's caved in a this point.

 

[AnOminous]

Overall, seems like just an outwardly convincing fake.

I'm leaning slightly towards that. I'm not sure if the plebbitor mods had a specific reason for concluding that but I'm not digging into that thread any more after about the third thing I read was some tard sperging about AI art.

There was a good deal of new info in that letter, if true. Chris being super skinny, being medicated to the tits, Heilberg convincing him to not talk, etc. It would add up with the nuthouse incident that he's caved in a this point.

The thing is all it does is confirm what most people already thought had happened. So it's consistent with that but any one of us could have said the same and just pretended it was from a visit.

 

[Hopkinsville Goblin]

Also holy shit, the people in that thread apparently exist on a diet of nothing but paint chips and library paste.

That's how /r/ChrisChanSonichu is. People don't bother learning the basics. Like right now there is a thread "Is there a directory for the sagas we’ve had? I wanna be caught up for the next one. What is this “homeless” saga?" Of course there's a goddamn directory.

 

[Pickle Inspector]

Looks fake due to handwriting and the “Ohayo“ is a bit suspicious too, unless the ween is Japanese, but it sounds kind of like someone thinking of a cutesy, girly thing that Chris might write but in reality probally wouldn‘t.

But it sure is going to be depressing if Chris comes of jail out looking gaunt, grey and noticeably aged.

 

[themarchivist2]

Looks fake due to handwriting and the “Ohayo“ is a bit suspicious too, unless the ween is Japanese, but it sounds kind of like someone thinking of a cutesy, girly thing that Chris might write but in reality probally wouldn‘t.

Notably, Chris has used "Ohio" as a greeting once before, as part of Punchy's dialogue:

 

[Meat Pickle]

Good catch. The tranny jannies already removed it.
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Also holy shit, the people in that thread apparently exist on a diet of nothing but paint chips and library paste.

Highlight for the interested:
The friend allegedly received mail from Heilberg himself to not release Chris's mail lest he wants legal actions.
Chris is probably at his skinniest since 2000.
Chris is visibly aged, hair is now completely gray.
Heilberg shutting Chris up theory is probably true.
Chris is able to play basketball at the rec room again, he is also getting fiber supplements.
Possibly confirmed my personal theory that Praetor gave Chris pocket change from the jail arts.
Chris is accepting the fact that he will never see the Sonichu Temple nor Barb for a long time.
The Merge is apparently done, but the Collective Shift is "just months away".

 

[Hopkinsville Goblin]

Looks fake due to handwriting and the “Ohayo“ is a bit suspicious too, unless the ween is Japanese, but it sounds kind of like someone thinking of a cutesy, girly thing that Chris might write but in reality probally wouldn‘t.

But it sure is going to be depressing if Chris comes of jail out looking gaunt, grey and noticeably aged.

Chris has responded to a troll claiming to be a Japanese girl before, and she used Ohayou gozaimasu. He may be familiar with the expression from anime like Excel Saga. Right now he just doesn't have anything to reference for a typical spelling.

Chris is accepting the fact that he will never see the Sonichu Temple nor Barb for a long time.

I'm surprised Chris is accepting that. I wonder what his plan is for when he gets out of jail. A group home won't let him keep that much clutter. Maybe if he had the money he could rent a storage bin and pay someone to move his toys into it. There's too much to fit in a homeless person's stolen shopping cart, and stuff that is made of paper will get ruined by weather.

 

[Jon Osterman]

Empty legal threats happen all the time, like when Nintendo sends CADs to random fangames. He probably couldn't follow through, it's just there to scare people. I'm inclined to believe this is true unless it's proven false, but I wouldn't be surprised if it is.

but I wouldn't imagine there is anything stopping him from sending empty threats to weens.

Sure Heilberg can make empty threats and use the fact he's a lawyer to bluff people into compliance, but why would he when the letters wouldn't even make a difference in the case. Most of it is just Chris rambling about random stuff, and even when he brings up the barbcest it's still just dribble that the court doesn't need to prove that he did it. Only thing I can think of is if he's worried Chris will end up name dropping whichever tard home gets stuck with him, which is unlikely considering he hasn't even been assigned one yet.

 

[Meat Pickle]

Sure Heilberg can make empty threats and use the fact he's a lawyer to bluff people into compliance, but why would he when the letters wouldn't even make a difference in the case. Most of it is just Chris rambling about random stuff, and even when he brings up the barbcest it's still just dribble that the court doesn't need to prove that he did it. Only thing I can think of is if he's worried Chris will end up name dropping whichever tard home gets stuck with him, which is unlikely considering he hasn't even been assigned one yet.

Chris comes across as someone who has to share personal information when prodded. This trait is basically how Chris first became known because he feels he needs to clear some misconceptions when he first saw his Encyclopedia Dramatica and not knowing that sharing personal info is a major no-no on the internet. The account seems to imply Chris himself is getting frustrated by the fact that he now needs to shut up on giving his current status related to anything court related.

While in my opinion Heilberg is surprisingly knowledgeable on the current state of the internet, I feel he is overthinking the effect of Chris's outside communication.

 

[Tennis-Ball-Tony]

First of all, Chris is thin. Like, "holy shit" thin. He hasn't been this thin since probably 2000, if not earlier. That being said, he definitely looks worse for wear. He looks noticeably older. His hair is 100% gray at this point, not the brown-gray-swamp it was back in 2021, but it's still dark. One of his eyes was bruised (which he said he got when he fell), and they had very dark bags. He still has the stubble, unsurprisingly, and it's more visible than it looks in pictures. His voice is thin.

I can see this visit actually have occurred. Chris looks like steaming shit on a good day, and being in a stressful situation that he cannot control would acerbate how crappy he looks. Not to mention he's probably gulping down even more junk food in order to feel better.

As soon as he started talking I could tell he was on something. He hardly did any of the usual falsetto or screeching, and his responses were short. He slurred his speech even more than usual, but he didn't talk as fast.

I seem to recall when Chris was doing his anger management classes after the PVCC debacle, the doctors recommending follow up visits and potentially some sort of drugs. Chris was on anti-depressants for a little while (I think), so I think if he's getting actual treatment now, then back then, they probably would have doped him up on something stronger.

He said he doesn't know how much money he makes from his jail drawings, but guessed it at around $25. He said he hasn't gotten any donations in a few months outside of Praetor. I asked him about Kengle, and Chris just responded "he's the Antichrist", with a smile. He didn't elaborate.

I supposed this was the case, Praetor making bank off of Chris and him seeing none of the actual profits except for a tiny little bit. Funny, I wonder if Heilberg would give a crap about that as much as he does trying to scare people into not posting his letters online.

I asked him if he wanted to get out of jail, and he shouted that the "truth would be revealed in just months" or something like that. He confirmed that as part of his "sacrifice", he wouldn't be returning to the Sonichu Temple or seeing Barb anytime soon. I asked him if he missed Barb, and he said yes.

I have a feeling the grand ol' end of the merge and "collective shift" is just going to be Chris being released and him in a "new life".

 

[Jarry Seinfelt]

I seem to recall when Chris was doing his anger management classes after the PVCC debacle, the doctors recommending follow up visits and potentially some sort of drugs. Chris was on anti-depressants for a little while (I think), so I think if he's getting actual treatment now, then back then, they probably would have doped him up on something stronger.

He's been on Paxil since 2000 according to the mental healthcare page on the CWCki. Thought it was much more recently than that, like around the therapeutic docket. Either way, I'm not surprised.

But "being on meds" means a whole different thing for our lazy boy. It'd be surprising if he remembered to take it more than like a third of the time. Does anyone know whether jail staff seriously scrutinizes whether or not patients take their meds, or do they just hand him his pills every day and go "have fun?"

 

[Cybertonia]

Geez, some of these new plebbit weens are like the kids that find a family member's stash of pogs in grandma's attic and they think they've found the gold of el dorado. It's like no kid, all you found was the previous generation's plastic trash. You went to visit a 41 year old sex offender in jail because you read that he was famous on the internet back when you were still inside your dad's balls. Good for you.

 

[Hogar Grupal]

A redditor claims to have visited Chris in jail and sketched him.

I doubt this. I assume Heilberg let the court/jail indicate "no visitors" because he knows how susceptible his client is, and is willing to spill details to the court seal.

 

[Ophelia]

That sketch is somewhat unnerving. It makes him look like one of those forensic sketches some police forces release from time to time

The last thing Barb saw before…

I wouldn't imagine any rando could just visit Chris at this point if you cant even mail him.

We can mail him. It’s possible Chris is being forced to not reply, but it’s legally more likely that he’s choosing not to, possibly at the advise of his lawyer.

Empty legal threats happen all the time, like when Nintendo sends CADs to random fangames. He probably couldn't follow through, it's just there to scare people.

Right. I don’t know why he’d want to make weens stop sharing letters online, but he knows an empty threat will totally work on most of the people writing.

I'm inclined to believe this is true unless it's proven false, but I wouldn't be surprised if it is.

I’m inclined to believe it’s false until proven true, but I wouldn’t be surprised if it is. It’s not like we’re being told Chris has done something outrageous. It’s just bland enough to be true.

But it sure is going to be depressing if Chris comes of jail out looking gaunt, grey and noticeably aged.

Be prepared.

I'm surprised Chris is accepting that.

I’m not surprised Chris is claiming to accept it. I think a breakdown when reality comes to pass is likely.

I wonder what his plan is for when he gets out of jail. A group home won't let him keep that much clutter.

I’ll bet you he thinks he can take as much as he wants, even if he’s been told that isn’t so. He’s famous, isn’t he? Won’t they roll out the red carpet and give him the presidential suit?

Maybe if he had the money he could rent a storage bin and pay someone to move his toys into it.

I wouldn’t be surprised by this. A lot depends on the state of the tugboat. He’s entitled to it, if I understand our law kiwis correctly; it might need to be turned back on though. Someone could help him with that, and it behooves them to do so. Chris tucked away inside somewhere paying for his keep with the tugboat is better than Chris living on the street.

 

[ToroidalBoat]

I think it's possible that in August, there will be yet another continuance. Maybe it's best to stop thinking of the Case of Fail, and the Life of Fail in general. At least for me anyway - I regret learning about the "blackface for autism" egotistical incestuous freak known as CWC. The concept of "Chris Chan" can be a "mind worm", like an annoying song that gets stuck in thought for awhile.

(But at least if one learns about the Life of Fail, it can motivate one to do better in their own life.)

Being neurodivergent does not make you like Chris. Being lazy does not make you like Chris. Being a slob does not make you like Chris. Being a fucking moron does not make you like Chris. Having odd tendencies does not make you like Chris. Being socially awkward does not make you like Chris.

Only Chris can be like Chris, because only he possesses the vastly different and unique qualities, experiences, and upbringing that made him the way he is.