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Dogmeat General said:
Aren't horizontal stripes slimming? The cwcki article "Chris and Fashion" says so and cites a Psychology Today article.


I don't think Chris really thought about it being fashionable at all, let alone preppy. I think that's just what Barb got at Goodwill, and Chris wore it. She probably said he looked handsome, and he believed it.

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I have a question you guys. In Chris's early writings he uses the phrase "took me for a fall" a few times. What the fuck is that supposed to mean? Is it a real expression? I don't think I've heard it from anyone except him. I have heard the idiom "take the fall [i.e., blame] for sth", but never "take sb/sth for a fall". Here are some examples:

"that female dog took my idea for a fall" --https://sonichu.com/cwcki/Saddest_Heart_in_the_World
"that JERK took my idea for a fall, just like that XXXXX at PVCC did! >(" --https://sonichu.com/cwcki/CWC's_Diary
"a Black, Fat Jerk...approached me and took me for a fall with my trying to find a Boyfriend-Free Girl" --https://sonichu.com/cwcki/Manajerks

Have any of you heard this expression elsewhere, or is it a pure cwc-ism? What does it/is it supposed to mean?
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Probably but it's just human nature to want to be one of the crowd.

Might have been why he gave up and became a goddess.

Really sad actually.
 
Shadowmän said:
Chris was pretty much bullied all his life by males and treated semi well by early 2000s late 90s teenage girls of that time out of pity, so imagine his misandry was present and he didnt wanted to trust any male that was mean to him, Bob and barb may have known this so they got the three unfortunate teenage girls that werent that mean to him so he can have atleast some "protectors" or "Friends" being that autistic in highschool in the late 90s was basically over for you there wasnt still any "weird" kids that you could get up with + he attended in some small town highschool which was worse for him i do imagine.
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I don't doubt that Chris was teased in school, not picked for things, sat alone in the cafeteria (if not for the "Gal Pals", of course), etc, but interestingly, he doesn't believe that he was "bullied". Because he thinks life is a cartoon, he once said that he wasn't the subject of bullying because he was never shoved into a locker, and he looks back at high school as the happiest time of his life.

Interestingly, Chris' misandry didn't appear until later, and it wasn't because men were mean to him -- just that he saw them as sexual rivals (remember, according to Chris' Infinitely High Boyfriend Factor theory, he hates other men because they take all the pretty girls leaving him with none). -- that and the autism papers stated that he got along better with women, so he just ran with it.

And while I have my doubts that the Gal Pals were paid to hang out with him (there's too little evidence to support that), I think it's safe to say that some sort of arrangement took place where they were encouraged to sit with the weird kid at lunch a couple days a week. Note that outside of the depressing 18th birthday fiasco, there's no mention of them hanging out outside of school. They weren't real friends; they were doing somebody a favor (and maybe feeling good about themselves for being charitable to the weird kid) even if money didn't exchange hands.

Shadowmän said:
I always question myself how would it be like if someone like Chris chan(same autism, same upbringing, same everything) would have born a little later? like 2000s or 1999 where he would have attended highschool in 2016, would it be any different? Would he have any Friends? Would he troon out? well the third question is a yes since the today's troon wave came from that era of weird highschool kids that liked soviet memes, fnaf, homestock and undertale and maybe Chris would have been Friends with the kids of this era.
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The thing about Chris is that he hit at exactly the right time. If we got a Chris2.0 today, the biggest difference factor wouldn't be advances in understanding autism or new paradigms in the educational system or even changing attitudes towards the whole trans issue -- it would be the state of the internet today.

When Classic Chris hit the scene, he was an open book online at a time when the internet was novel, and people were curious about this unusual man.
But today he'd be lost in the noise. There are a million mentally ill weirdos trying to get famous online, and Chris wouldn't stand out. He'd just be a drop in the ocean.
 
Shadowmän said:
I always question myself how would it be like if someone like Chris chan(same autism, same upbringing, same everything) would have born a little later? like 2000s or 1999 where he would have attended highschool in 2016, would it be any different? Would he have any Friends? Would he troon out? well the third question is a yes since the today's troon wave came from that era of weird highschool kids that liked soviet memes, fnaf, homestock and undertale and maybe Chris would have been Friends with the kids of this era.
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The internet phenomenon known as "Chris-Chan" (distinct from Christian Weston Chandler the person) came about due to a perfect storm of factors, one of the more important among them being setting. The internet of the 2000's was IMO the only environment in which Chris could gain the prominence that he did, with the internet being just mainstream enough that a significant number of people could take interest in/get involved in trolling him, but not so mainstream that things get commodified/politicized.
That's without taking into account the downstream effects Chris had on the wider internet. For us English-speakers at least, Chris is the lolcow and the whole of "lolcow culture" is derived from Chris's golden age. This very website was originally just a forum for the CWCki. In your hypothetical scenario where Chris was born in the early 2000's, the concept of a "lolcow" might not even exist or, at least, not be mainstream enough for there to be an organized subculture centered around the concept.
 
Shadowmän said:
I always question myself how would it be like if someone like Chris chan(same autism, same upbringing, same everything) would have born a little later? like 2000s or 1999 where he would have attended highschool in 2016, would it be any different?
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GoGoNoJo said:
internet of the 2000's was IMO the only environment in which Chris could gain the prominence that he did
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If "Chris Chan" were born as a "Zoomer" instead of a "Millennial" he would likely be just another mentally ill freak using the insane asylum of a site that is "Bluesky" now.
 
Kind of a random thought, but looking at the games coming to GeForce Now cloud gaming this week reminded me...is there any way to get a digital copy of I Am Jesus Christ in his filthy gloved hands? That's the most ridiculous unironic game idea I've heard in a long time, and seeing Mrs Jesus Motherfucking Chandler play it on stream would be sheer fuckin kino. Caden would like it because of all the donos that would be rolling into his little lolcow sweatshop.
 
Acoustic Virgin said:
I don't doubt that Chris was teased in school, not picked for things, sat alone in the cafeteria (if not for the "Gal Pals", of course), etc, but interestingly, he doesn't believe that he was "bullied". Because he thinks life is a cartoon, he once said that he wasn't the subject of bullying because he was never shoved into a locker, and he looks back at high school as the happiest time of his life.
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I've always found Chris's romanticism of high school to be one of the more depressing parts of Christory.

He views it as the best time of his life, but when you look into what transpired at Manchester, from his accounts the only things he really got out of it was having a group of pretty girls who ate lunch with him on certain days and never interacted with him outside of his birthday party and prom night.
There are no mentions of any non gal-pal friends or students, no memory of anything he learned, no reminiscing on a teacher that was actually interesting, no stories from his time as a waterboy, nothing.
It was a pretty below average experience, but it managed to be the peak of his life that he's still pining for all these years later.
 
BubbaRobot887 said:
If Chris is God then why does he need to get on planes and stay at hotels in order to go to conventions, why can't he just be there since God is everywhere at the same time?
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Chris's argument is he is limited by the physical body he inhibits. As utterly deluded as he is, to SOME degree, Chris is still aware of reality. He know he can't fly, needs money to exist, etc. Chris believes he is limited because the merge has yet to happen, and he will be able to do any of his wish fulfilment when said event occurs.

Essentially, he feels all of the discomfort in his life since temporary, and the solution to it is to kind of do nothing and wait for magic/god/the universe to resolve his issues.

utlimate outcome? Probably the same warped mindset until death, with some addtions and changes over time.
 
WelshChu said:
Chris's argument is he is limited by the physical body he inhibits. As utterly deluded as he is, to SOME degree, Chris is still aware of reality. He know he can't fly, needs money to exist, etc. Chris believes he is limited because the merge has yet to happen, and he will be able to do any of his wish fulfilment when said event occurs.

Essentially, he feels all of the discomfort in his life since temporary, and the solution to it is to kind of do nothing and wait for magic/god/the universe to resolve his issues.

utlimate outcome? Probably the same warped mindset until death, with some addtions and changes over time.
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This just goes to show he never read the Bible. Jesus was in a human body that could be killed but when he wanted to he could pass through a whole crowd of men who were trying to push him off of a cliff.

The fact that Chris thinks he is fooling anyone with this garbage may be the stupidest thing he has ever believed in his life.
 
Acoustic Virgin said:
And while I have my doubts that the Gal Pals were paid to hang out with him (there's too little evidence to support that), I think it's safe to say that some sort of arrangement took place where they were encouraged to sit with the weird kid at lunch a couple days a week. Note that outside of the depressing 18th birthday fiasco, there's no mention of them hanging out outside of school. They weren't real friends; they were doing somebody a favor (and maybe feeling good about themselves for being charitable to the weird kid) even if money didn't exchange hands.
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Cash Transaction? I doubt it, apart from when he was younger an he had that proto-gal pal to an from the bus stop, that i do think was more of a babysitting arrangement. With the MCH Galpals I honestly think they were just decent teenage girls who a teacher asked to keep a eye on Chris to make sure he doesn’t get into trouble at beak an lunch times and they developed a soft spot for him not like a real friend, they might have got some reward but it wasn’t anything serious or counted towards anything.

ToroidalBoat said:
If "Chris Chan" were born as a "Zoomer" instead of a "Millennial" he would likely be just another mentally ill freak using the insane asylum of a site that is "Bluesky" now.
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I do see that being the case for Chris, He'd be online but nothing like he was back in the day - weird an odd sure, maybe even have a thread in that universes version of the farms but he'd be more gunshy, post less frequently an with less detail. Chris really was a perfect storm of multiple things happening a the same time, he was the global village idiot at a time when the tech was young an new and the people most adept with it where younger and where left to there own devices and that strata of internet culture allowed for Chris to become a thing.

God I'd love to get a really deep psychological of Chris and a Ethnographer to do a really deep dive into this, I dont just mean internet denizens but accredited professionals.

Darth Insanius said:
There are no mentions of any non gal-pal friends or students, no memory of anything he learned, no reminiscing on a teacher that was actually interesting, no stories from his time as a waterboy, nothing.
It was a pretty below average experience, but it managed to be the peak of his life that he's still pining for all these years later.
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I know what you mean BUT, Chris outside of being Autistic is incredibly stupid and dumb - He legitimately doesn’t form memories of an event and what he does recall has a large "willingness" to remember it in a positive light component attached, He has also used the Cwicki as a more reliable version of events than his own memory., to the point I do think he has a memory disorder not a huge one but enough of one to be a issue and something notable.

This is a legit contributor to his inability to learn from experience.
 
Dogmeat General said:
I have a question you guys. In Chris's early writings he uses the phrase "took me for a fall" a few times. What the fuck is that supposed to mean? Is it a real expression? I don't think I've heard it from anyone except him. I have heard the idiom "take the fall [i.e., blame] for sth", but never "take sb/sth for a fall". Here are some examples:

"that female dog took my idea for a fall" --https://sonichu.com/cwcki/Saddest_Heart_in_the_World
"that JERK took my idea for a fall, just like that XXXXX at PVCC did! >(" --https://sonichu.com/cwcki/CWC's_Diary
"a Black, Fat Jerk...approached me and took me for a fall with my trying to find a Boyfriend-Free Girl" --https://sonichu.com/cwcki/Manajerks

Have any of you heard this expression elsewhere, or is it a pure cwc-ism? What does it/is it supposed to mean?
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I think it's some bastardization of "taking [someone] for a fool," or thinking they're a fool, basically. It's a somewhat antiquated turn of phrase, and he's not even using it right, either. I've exclusively heard it used to describe someone's perception of another person, but never how someone perceives an "idea"- you can't "take an idea for a fool."

So when he said 'that Black Fat Jerk approached me and took him for a fall,' he meant to say "that Black, Fat Jerk approached me and took me for a fool," or in normal people speak, "a plus sized nigger approached me and thought I was a retard."
 
Phalanges Mycologist said:
legitimately doesn’t form memories of an event and what he does recall has a large "willingness" to remember it in a positive light component attached
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reminds me of this old post:

Tubular Monkey said:
The passage of time, and the events that transpire within certain time frames are hazy and nebulous to Chris at the best of times. For someone who can be so oddly specific about inconsequential details (8 chapters), I think his own perception of life is blurry at best. Something something something ELEMENTARY SCHOOL PIZZA PARTY... something something something PEANUT BUTTER SANDWICH I HAD ON MARCH 11, 1992... something something something... POKEMAN... something something something... GALPALS HIGH SCHOOL THINGS GOOD YES ENJOY... something something something... INNERNET SWEETHEARTS... etc.

There's no coherent theme to him. Just random events that form no pattern and tell no story. Chapters, indeed! Bah!
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Darth Insanius said:
I've always found Chris's romanticism of high school to be one of the more depressing parts of Christory.

He views it as the best time of his life, but when you look into what transpired at Manchester, from his accounts the only things he really got out of it was having a group of pretty girls who ate lunch with him on certain days and never interacted with him outside of his birthday party and prom night.
There are no mentions of any non gal-pal friends or students, no memory of anything he learned, no reminiscing on a teacher that was actually interesting, no stories from his time as a waterboy, nothing.
It was a pretty below average experience, but it managed to be the peak of his life that he's still pining for all these years later.
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Chris does have a strange way of remembering things. I recall reading one thing on the CWCki where when he was young, him and Borb flew out to California for something to do with Cole. Barb said the flight was "painful" but Chris only ever brought it up once. I distinctly recall my first time flying and traveling to a far off state, but he only ever brought it up once and that was it.

His high school remembering is something too, most people do look back on their time with some nostalgia but not in the way Chris does. Doing something fun with friends, stressing about something, dating someone, first job, first car, etc... Even the weirdo kids had their own little groups, even the new transfer kid had at least some people they talked to, but Chris is just weird. I recall only one weird kid with no friends and I only ever interacted with him once at his job, and that was enough to have made me not want to talk to him again. Ironically, he's getting out of prison soon for sex crimes so there's that.

But when you look at how Chris talks about high school, it sounds just like he barely did anything of note. Like you say, no crazy stories about his time there, no real meaningful interactions, just Chris existing. "A Week With Chris" is about as close as we can get to seeing what it was like, and even that was pretty depressing.

"Today is an odd day, and Chris ate lunch alone"
 
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Darth Insanius said:
I've always found Chris's romanticism of high school to be one of the more depressing parts of Christory.

He views it as the best time of his life, but when you look into what transpired at Manchester, from his accounts the only things he really got out of it was having a group of pretty girls who ate lunch with him on certain days and never interacted with him outside of his birthday party and prom night.
There are no mentions of any non gal-pal friends or students, no memory of anything he learned, no reminiscing on a teacher that was actually interesting, no stories from his time as a waterboy, nothing.
It was a pretty below average experience, but it managed to be the peak of his life that he's still pining for all these years later.
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It's weird, and it would sound depressing to normal people, but it's important to remember that Chris is not normal, so the things that he would enjoy and appreciate are vastly different from what we would. For Chris, having complex friendships, attending multiple events, participating in challenging activities, etc would be too overwhelming -- even though all these things are second nature to an average person.

For Chris, high school was a nice structured existence where he didn't have to worry too much about making decisions, figuring things out, and most significantly suffering the consequences of making mistakes. For someone with his mental capacity, that's appealing.

I think of it like doll therapy in memory care units.
At first glance, it looks demeaning -- infantilizing a person suffering from dementia by giving them a kid's toy. As I attempt to empathize with the patients, I can't help but to think of how horrible it would feel to be treated like a little child. But I don't have dementia yet, so it's not a fair comparison. The therapy can be very effective and can vastly improve the patients' mood and overall quality of life. Most patients absolutely love it.

But back to Chris specifically, I feel like he needed more structure in his life after high school. Being thrown into the real world was too much for him to handle, and with only Bob and Barb to help him navigate adulthood, it's no surprise that it was a total trainwreck.
 
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