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TheMightyCluck said:
Please say it was in the stream comments, actually please say it was you in the stream comments.
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I take it your birth year starts with a "2" and not a "1"? 🤔

Tennis-Ball-Tony said:
I recall only one weird kid with no friends and I only ever interacted with him once at his job, and that was enough to have made me not want to talk to him again.
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What was wrong with him? Was he like "Chris Chan"?

even that was pretty depressing
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And yet it's still better than The Tale of Fail after he graduated "Count Graduon" got him.
 
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ToroidalBoat said:
What was wrong with him? Was he like "Chris Chan"?
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He seemed normal enough, was in regular classes, and might have had some sort of autism. It was just that if you went up to him to talk to him about something he'd either stare at you until you left, or would say something really weird. He had a car and worked at an auto parts store, so he wasn't that disabled. One weird thing he did was randomly one day, he started doing donuts outside the teacher's lounge in his shitbox, and got in major trouble.

The other thing he was known for was creeping on girls. He'd walk up to one and give her the creepiest grin and either ask her out immediately, or give her some corny pickup line he made up himself. He was always staring at the girl's asses and tits, in the most obvious way. Turned out a few years after high school, he gets a shitload of time for being into a lot younger girls.
 
Tennis-Ball-Tony said:
The other thing he was known for was creeping on girls. He'd walk up to one and give her the creepiest grin and either ask her out immediately, or give her some corny pickup line he made up himself. He was always staring at the girl's asses and tits, in the most obvious way. Turned out a few years after high school, he gets a shitload of time for being into a lot younger girls.
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This seems to happen with so many LOLcows with autism I am starting to think that autism does something to their brains where they don't fully understand that they are not in highschool any more and these are not the girls they should be with.

I am not excusing it or saying they should get away with it, I am just saying I think there may be a link.

I know this sounds crazy but Chris may have been on to something with his idea of a class, it may help autist kids and their victims later in life if there was some sort of class they could attend that would explain to them how dating works, what the rules are, and that it is very illegal to keep trying to pick up high school girls after high school.

I am not saying the exact class Chris wanted is the answer, but some sort of class where they can have the rules spelled out for them and ask questions without getting shamed for not understanding human interactions like the rest of us do, could be a good idea.
 
Darth Insanius said:
I've always found Chris's romanticism of high school to be one of the more depressing parts of Christory.

He views it as the best time of his life, but when you look into what transpired at Manchester, from his accounts the only things he really got out of it was having a group of pretty girls who ate lunch with him on certain days and never interacted with him outside of his birthday party and prom night.
There are no mentions of any non gal-pal friends or students, no memory of anything he learned, no reminiscing on a teacher that was actually interesting, no stories from his time as a waterboy, nothing.
It was a pretty below average experience, but it managed to be the peak of his life that he's still pining for all these years later.
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I'm sure a lot of it is to do with Chris's autism, a bit like that old Onion comedy sketch where an autistic reporter really likes the idea of prison due to how predictable and structured everything is there.

Only in highschool there's gal-pals which dote on him, classes where he can slack off and read Goosebumps or when Chris actually does some classwork the teachers are so lax they'll let him write about Sonichu and then congratulate him on what an amazing job he's done, not to mention Chris still had a lifetime of potential ahead of him back then.
 
Pickle Inspector said:
not to mention Chris still had a lifetime of potential ahead of him back then.
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I think this is something Chris is aware enough to recognize these days, verses back then. His high school time was always looked back at with the idea that he just needed to do these few things different and it would have been amazing. I bet he looks back on the Classic Era the same way. He had free reign, little to no responsibilities, his health (as much as it was), and endless possibilities, yet at the same time, decades flushed down the toilet with his engagement with the trolls that eventually ended up making him the laughing stock of the internet.
 
Tennis-Ball-Tony said:
I think this is something Chris is aware enough to recognize these days, verses back then. His high school time was always looked back at with the idea that he just needed to do these few things different and it would have been amazing. I bet he looks back on the Classic Era the same way. He had free reign, little to no responsibilities, his health (as much as it was), and endless possibilities, yet at the same time, decades flushed down the toilet with his engagement with the trolls that eventually ended up making him the laughing stock of the internet.
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I think one of the reasons why Chris loved high school and did so poorly online is the same. In high school the teachers punished anyone who laughed at Chris or tried to make fun of him, so he was protected from seeing what people really think of Sonichu and garbage like that, he was told his high school was the real world instead of the cuddle box it really was, so then when he went online he wasn't prepared to hear what people in the real world thought of his actions and ideas because the teachers were no longer around so that through him for a loop. In that way I think the teachers who protected him, his parents, and the gal pals let him down because he went into the adult world with no idea of how people really act in the adult world.
 
Another thing might be high school was prior to his love quest so Chris can both reminisce about the time when his gal pals treated him like a innocent special ED kid while at the same time fantasise about how if he got a redo he could have totally gotten with any of them (When in reality it would have likely been a much worse experience for Chris if he was obsessed with losing his virginity back then).
 
BubbaRobot887 said:
In that way I think the teachers who protected him, his parents, and the gal pals let him down because he went into the adult world with no idea of how people really act in the adult world.
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I think if the teachers did nothing and he was bullied in school then nothing would have changed. The letter from the teacher explained Chris not to Let nor show people which buttons to push but he still did it anyway online. The issue was the shitty parenting and the tism. Bob and barb didn't want to deal with his retardation and let him be a spoiled brat.
 
King Metalia said:
He had Barb as a mother and given his father's also terrible track record with his kids, Any potential Chris might have had didn't last long.
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I don't get why people treat Bob like he was a good parent when he enabled Chris just like Barb and at the time Chris was born he already had adult children who refused to have anything to do with him and didn't show up when he died and he never talked about, so he screwed up with them too.
 
Attention, all Sonichu Fans. I have some sad news to share.

We are now coming up on the 8th year since the death of my personal hero, David Rotgard (also known as Bananasauros in the comic). I miss him every day. His contribution to the world of Sonichu HAS to be up there as one of the most memorable events, so allow us to reminisce for a moment.

His love of Skateboarding
The time him and punchy played God Of War, and when he moved in with him
His ex-girlfriend he cheated on in the 80s, Caitlyn
His average grade in high school being a B
The time he was forced to have sex with a ditto against his will for the salvation of his species, which I am sure you are glad to hear prevails, despite his significant sacrifice.

For those of you who are less mentally ill than myself, you will have probably been unaware this is genuinely from Sonichu and I CANNOT stop thinking of the frankly ludicrous levels of detail it entails. Chris sadly confirmed on twitter, in one of his ridiculous spells almost as pointless as this one, that David had died. Rest in peace. Why am I thinking about this? Autism, probably.
 
BubbaRobot887 said:
I don't get why people treat Bob like he was a good parent when he enabled Chris just like Barb and at the time Chris was born he already had adult children who refused to have anything to do with him and didn't show up when he died and he never talked about, so he screwed up with them too.
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I think Bob as a whole is a much more complicated figure than Barb. As parents, they were clearly horrible, but you can make the case the Barb was an all round horrible person and Chris' biggest enabler.

Bob on the other hand seemed to have much better intentions and wanted Chris to succeed, but had incredibly outdated views about mental health and it is understandable (though not justified) as to why he had them. He was also afraid that special schools and assisted living facilities that Chris should have been sent to would be very similar to the mental asylums of the 40s and 50s (worth remembering Bob was born in 1927 so these were his youth decades) where patients were treated like absolute shit. Don't get me wrong, Bob was still a shit parent and should never have had Chris, but I think calling him a horrible person (at least in the same vein as Barb) is a step too far.

Problem is a lot of people think not being an all round terrible person, or better than Barb, which is an extremely low bar, means you're a good person, and therefore a good parent.

For history/political spergs, I think Bob was to Chris what Gorbachev was to the Soviet Union: they both had good intentions but executed it really poorly.
 
Del Boy said:
He was also afraid that special schools and assisted living facilities that Chris should have been sent to would be very similar to the mental asylums of the 40s and 50s (worth remembering Bob was born in 1927 so these were his youth decades) where patients were treated like absolute shit.
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I've always had a difficult time with this theory as the school had sat them down to talk about the special school, which was up by Winchester, but physically different place. They must have explained everything to the Chandlers about opportunities for education more in line with what Chris needed.

I think they told Chris the lie that the school was going to throw him into an insane asylum to scare him, and to manipulate him into thinking his parents 'saved' him from a horrible place. They always wanted Chris to be around, and Chris becoming independent might make him want to leave them. Like how they freaked out about him wanting to spend a few days at a convention, and his parents losing their shit, with Bob saying how they had to stick together, because if one of them left, the other two would straight up die. That over a few days away from home.

That and they probably didn't think Chris's autism was that bad, especially with Barb getting Chris to talk.
 
Pmurt is channeling Chris.
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Tennis-Ball-Tony said:
I've always had a difficult time with this theory as the school had sat them down to talk about the special school, which was up by Winchester, but physically different place. They must have explained everything to the Chandlers about opportunities for education more in line with what Chris needed.

I think they told Chris the lie that the school was going to throw him into an insane asylum to scare him, and to manipulate him into thinking his parents 'saved' him from a horrible place.
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Maybe. But I think it's more likely that Bob just didn't believe the school officials when they explained what a modern special needs school was. Otherwise why fight it?

Tennis-Ball-Tony said:
Like how they freaked out about him wanting to spend a few days at a convention, and his parents losing their shit, with Bob saying how they had to stick together, because if one of them left, the other two would straight up die. That over a few days away from home.
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I don't think Bob and Barb necessarily needed a conspiracy to keep Chris in the house forever. I just rewatched Chapter 3 of Geno's doc. In that chapter, Chris is in his 20s, but he acts like an 8-year-old. Even Bob and Barb could see that he has no business crossing state lines or spending an overnight somewhere unsupervised -- it would just be too dangerous to let him loose on his own. I'm surprised that they allowed him to drive... although I suppose Barb isn't any better in that regard.


I would have loved to have seen a good interview of Bob and Barb asking what was going through their minds as Chris grew up and what their plans were for him.
It seems like they just hoped that he'd grow out of it (or possibly fight his autism, and win!), and by the time it became obvious that he wouldn't, they were way too old with way too many problems of their own to attempt to undo the damage.
 
Tennis-Ball-Tony said:
They always wanted Chris to be around, and Chris becoming independent might make him want to leave them. Like how they freaked out about him wanting to spend a few days at a convention, and his parents losing their shit, with Bob saying how they had to stick together, because if one of them left, the other two would straight up die. That over a few days away from home.
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Acoustic Virgin said:
Even Bob and Barb could see that he has no business crossing state lines or spending an overnight somewhere unsupervised -- it would just be too dangerous to let him loose on his own.
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The problem with Magfest wasn't Chris going to a convention by himself. It was that he had failed to budget money for a hotel room but was still stubbornly trying to go anyway. He told his parents his plan was to sleep in his car or the lobby and they were concerned for his safety.

His parents were okay with the idea of him going to conventions. He might have gone to the Anime Mid-Atlantic con by himself years beforehand. And his parents were fine with his plan to go to Otakon... until he blew the money he'd been setting aside for it.
 
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