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You know how in his Lego high school, Barb is teaching one of the classes? This might have actually happened. In his "Best President" essay, there are two teachers listed: a subject teacher and an English teacher. The English teacher's name is Dorazio, which is the same name as one of Chris's gal-pals. Coincidence? Or is it possible that the school allowed parents to work as assistants, to cut costs? This might also explain why, in his "Song of Christian," he doesn't know the name of the teacher who gave him the F. Maybe some of the teachers were unpaid temps who came and went. There's also at least one photo of Chris and Barb in a classroom together (a few posts above). If Barb spent a considerable amount of time in the school while Chris was there, it would doubtlessly impact the relationship between Chris and the faculty.

Just a theory.
 
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asperhes said:
Just a theory.
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There aren't very many "theories" thrown around in Discussion that I like very much, but that seems kinda plausible. Not so much the temping thing but rather that she was well-known to faculty. The woman kind of has a way of butting into every little thing.
 
asperhes said:
You know how in his Lego high school, Barb is teaching one of the classes? This might have actually happened. In his "Best President" essay, there are two teachers listed: a subject teacher and an English teacher. The English teacher's name is Dorazio, which is the same name as one of Chris's gal-pals. Coincidence? Or is it possible that the school allowed parents to work as assistants, to cut costs? This might also explain why, in his "Song of Christian," he doesn't know the name of the teacher who gave him the F. Maybe some of the teachers were unpaid temps who came and went. There's also at least one photo of Chris and Barb in a classroom together (a few posts above). If Barb spent a considerable amount of time in the school while Chris was there, it would doubtlessly impact the relationship between Chris and the faculty.

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Barb was working as a secretary for the power company though, IIRC. Not sure when she retired but I don't know if there's any evidence that she taught English or was even qualified to. Maybe she did help with the sped classes Chris was in, IDK.
 
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Will Chris move back into 14 BC?

From the pictures and videos I've seen of it, and given the Chandlers, the house was declining before and after the fire. It looks as though the "renovations" being undertaken have done nothing to fix the structural integrity of the house itself or prevent further damage, which makes me doubt he and barb will ever be able to live in it again.
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The fact that it was barely habitable before the fire shows why they are planning to move back. They don't have a lot of money to acquire new accomdations, and all they need is a place with a roof to stay in and keep the hoard in. As long as they have functional plumbing and electricity in a decent chunk of the house, and there are not chunks of wall or ceiling falling out every day, disrepair is something they can and have to deal with.

Holdek said:
Barb was working as a secretary for the power company though, IIRC. Not sure when she retired but I don't know if there's any evidence that she taught English or was even qualified to. Maybe she did help with the sped classes Chris was in, IDK.
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At the time, Barb was based out of Ruckersville/Charlottesville, and Chris and his school were just outside of Richmond. It's almost an hour and a half away. She could pop in for parents nights/special events, but with a full-time job, I can't see how she could volunteer/temp regularly. Any visit involved an overnight stay or upwards of 3 hours driving in a day. My impression is that Chris and Barb mostly saw each other on weekends.

I am not convinced by the Dorazio evidence. His friend's parent could have been a full-time faculty member, it could have been a more distant relative, or someone unrelated with the same name.

Edit: If I were to spin a wild conjecture based on the Dorazio name, I would suggest that maybe that is why that group of gal-pals were asked to be nice to Chris. Teacher notices Chris is awkward and lonely and asks her daughter and her daughter's friends to sit with him at lunch.
 
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Alan Pardew said:
So someone uploaded this interesting info on the CWCki. Take it with a grain of salt, but this could be Bob Chandler in 1946. Apparently if this was really him, he's taking Aeronautical Engineering.

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Oh yeah, that's Bob alright. His year of college is on his enlistment records, which I'll post again in this thread

http://aad.archives.gov/aad/record-...987835,4549799,991002,8565331,5188385,8565346
 
timtommy said:
I don't think his ceiling is all that high. If he set his mind to it, he could probably have a job (or a series of jobs) like the Wendy's job for a couple decades. He doesn't have the abilities to do much more than that. Now I do think he would be a lot happier if he did this. His love of brands, small accomplishments and recognition, and occassional casial socialization mean that working at a place like McDonalds for a few years, chatting with his coworkers on breaks, and getting the occassional employee of the week or 2 years of servicce certificate would be very fulfilling to him.

On the other hand, that wouldn't fundamentally change the income bracket he is in. Art lessons aren't going to help. As a fellow terrible artist, I can assure you that it is not knowledge or experience holding me back, it is ability. It's the same with Chris. I suppose it's not impossible that he could take a class at some local community centre as a hobby, but he is never going to have a career as an artist, or anything art related.
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I have mixed feelings on this. You seem to be suggesting artistic skill is a matter of inherent talent, not practice or applying yourself. I don't want to get OT, but for most people, that's simply not true. Chris having a career in art is unlikely, I won't disagree there, but the biggest roadblock to Chris becoming a good artist is his laziness, how he was raised, and access to a teacher who could handle an autistic student. I was originally going to suggest Chris's possible prosopagnosia made him a rare example of someone who would be unable to develop artistic skill, but the famous, talented and successful Chuck Close made me realize that's bullshit. There are other elements in Chris's art that suggest he may have other sight disorders, but those probably could be overcome. Perhaps if Chris's pencil grip is actually a symptom of some larger coordination problem, he might be incapable of progressing past a certain point, but that's doubtful, and overcoming a bad grip is fairly easy.

Essentially, every one of Chris's problems boil down to Borb failing to raise him into anything other than a manchild.
 
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Alan Pardew said:
So someone uploaded this interesting info on the CWCki. Take it with a grain of salt, but this could be Bob Chandler in 1946. Apparently if this was really him, he's taking Aeronautical Engineering.

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If this is Auburn, which I assume it is based on the Samford Hall logo in the corner, then it's important to consider that Bob didn't start out there. It's possible they conceptualized the idea of "freshmen" differently than we do now, or that he transferred in his second semester, though.
 
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asperhes said:
You know how in his Lego high school, Barb is teaching one of the classes? This might have actually happened. In his "Best President" essay, there are two teachers listed: a subject teacher and an English teacher. The English teacher's name is Dorazio, which is the same name as one of Chris's gal-pals. Coincidence? Or is it possible that the school allowed parents to work as assistants, to cut costs? This might also explain why, in his "Song of Christian," he doesn't know the name of the teacher who gave him the F. Maybe some of the teachers were unpaid temps who came and went. There's also at least one photo of Chris and Barb in a classroom together (a few posts above). If Barb spent a considerable amount of time in the school while Chris was there, it would doubtlessly impact the relationship between Chris and the faculty.

Just a theory.
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The Chandlers had Chris homeschooled for a year while they searched for a more amenable school district and sued the Greene County Board of Education. That's probably where the notion comes from.

Though Bob would probably have been the more probable teacher, being retired and Barb at work. Must be the influence of (nearly) exclusively female teachers.
 
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BaraBatman said:
I have mixed feelings on this. You seem to be suggesting artistic skill is a matter of inherent talent, not practice or applying yourself. I don't want to get OT, but for most people, that's simply not true. Chris having a career in art is unlikely, I won't disagree there, but the biggest roadblock to Chris becoming a good artist is his laziness, how he was raised, and access to a teacher who could handle an autistic student. I was originally going to suggest Chris's possible prosopagnosia made him a rare example of someone who would be unable to develop artistic skill, but the famous, talented and successful Chuck Close made me realize that's bullshit. There are other elements in Chris's art that suggest he may have other sight disorders, but those probably could be overcome. Perhaps if Chris's pencil grip is actually a symptom of some larger coordination problem, he might be incapable of progressing past a certain point, but that's doubtful, and overcoming a bad grip is fairly easy.

Essentially, every one of Chris's problems boil down to Borb failing to raise him into anything other than a manchild.
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I am sure he could improve. I just can't see him ever acquiring the technical skill to draw something people would want based on aesthetic appeal, or the imagination to draw something people would want based on uniquenss/interest/creativity.

I might go so far to suggest that if he improved to the degree I think he could, he might actually lose marketability, since his drawings wouldn't be comically bad anymore, which is one of their chief appeal.
 
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I made a post today saying that I thought Chris was correct (probably accidentally or for the wrong reason) to sell his crap for fairly exorbitant sounding prices.

But it got me thinking, what would the reaction be if he responded to a fall in demand by radically chopping his prices to something like $20 a comnission? Specifically, would there be a lot of righteous anger from people who had shelled out $50?
 
The Chandlers have an unusual number of cars (probably due to hoarding), so it's hard for me to keep track, but to confirm: Chris was driving the van, and Barb was driving the BMW, correct? And Chris wanted to buy the Focus because it would be more "sporty?"

timtommy said:
But it got me thinking, what would the reaction be if he responded to a fall in demand by radically chopping his prices to something like $20 a comnission? Specifically, would there be a lot of righteous anger from people who had shelled out $50?
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Probably, but it wouldn't be justified.
 
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The Chandlers have an unusual number of cars (probably due to hoarding), so it's hard for me to keep track, but to confirm: Chris was driving the van, and Barb was driving the BMW, correct? And Chris wanted to buy the Focus because it would be more "sporty?"
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Something like that. Though Chris can't drive the BMW, so there is that.
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Marvin, do you have any plans to write a definitive autobiography or anything of the sort after the sagas end?
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*yawn*
 
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