Containment Random Thoughts & Questions

[Clark W. Griswold]

Ziggy says there's a 95.21% chance that finishing Sonichu 15 will save the world and then you'll leap, Chris.

 

[Trilby]

Was Chris's education as it stood at all beneficial to him?

What sort of educational plan would have been best for him (Post Winchester Mental institution college/undergrad included)

I'd like to know.

 

[IV 445]

So, Sonichu is one big wish fulfillment. Chris' recent videos of him taking on Slaweel, Graduon and Autismo are about wanting to fulfill unmet desires.

Chris should play the Sims. It's for people who want to escape life. In The Sims they can be sort of themselves, but with enhanced good looks and Chris can romance any girl in under 5 minutes flat, or 5 hours Sims time.

 

[FriendlyNeighborhoodDaddy]

With his Etsy account pulling in donations, Chris is finally living the dream by earning money from Sonichu. Is anyone else happy about this? A lot of people (mostly A-Logs) complain about Chris not having a job, but that seems almost unfeasible for him at this point. New content plus Chris has more money for vidya, everyone wins right? Do you think in the long run this will benefit him or hurt him?

 

[IV 445]

Do you think in the long run this will benefit him or hurt him?

Hasn't he always found a way to fuck things up though?

 

[AW 006]

With his Etsy account pulling in donations, Chris is finally living the dream by earning money from Sonichu. Is anyone else happy about this? A lot of people (mostly A-Logs) complain about Chris not having a job, but that seems almost unfeasible for him at this point. New content plus Chris has more money for vidya, everyone wins right? Do you think in the long run this will benefit him or hurt him?

I think his making money off Sonichu enables him and that is at least a little departmental to him. The way I see it; if he was forced or pushed to go out and get a job it would improve his situation. It would mean he was out of the house and socialising to an extent. He'd see social norms and how people actually act, maybe even get himself a slow minded sweetheart. Even if financially it doesn't help much, it would still help his standard of living. But he doesn't need to consider that with the Tugboat and his Etsy page. Left undisturbed to his own devices and Barb's twisted influence in that house, he'll just continue to lose his fucking mind. The only thing his new found money helps with is inflating his ego, funding his lego hoard and maybe producing some lulzy content.

 

[rocket]

Where's A-Log at these days?

I don't have any interest in bothering the guy, just wondering if he ever re-emerged from whatever hole he fell into.

 

[Clown Doll]

A-Log made a cameo in the latest Dstecks Sonichu review IIRC.

 

[timtommy]

I think his making money off Sonichu enables him and that is at least a little departmental to him. The way I see it; if he was forced or pushed to go out and get a job it would improve his situation. It would mean he was out of the house and socialising to an extent. He'd see social norms and how people actually act, maybe even get himself a slow minded sweetheart. Even if financially it doesn't help much, it would still help his standard of living. But he doesn't need to consider that with the Tugboat and his Etsy page. Left undisturbed to his own devices and Barb's twisted influence in that house, he'll just continue to lose his fucking mind. The only thing his new found money helps with is inflating his ego, funding his lego hoard and maybe producing some lulzy content.

I see your point, but he is not going to get a job unless he is forced to. And there isn't anything on the horizon that is forcing him. The tugboat is there for that purpose.

When Chris is short of money, getting a job is way down on the list of solutions he cycles through. Far enough down that we haven't seen it. He tries begging, selling crap from the horde, borrowing, cutting back on expenses, selling Sonichu crap.

So if you remove his Sonichu sales, he would just have less to do and have less money. And then muddle through with those other alternatives.

Honestly, I could see him shrugging his shoulders, saying "there's nothing to be done", and then living in his car or a shelter before he seriously started applying for jobs. It just doesn't seem to be on his radar.

I think it bothers people because they feel "he doesn't deserve it". It's not an illogical point of view. He is producing extremely poor quality, unoriginal stuff, so it is easy for people to look at themselves or their talented friends who don't make money off their art and think that there is an unfairness to it. But the world just doesn't work that way. And if you start going down that road, you have to start nit-picking the salary of every overpaid middle-manager. Sometimes people make more money than their talents merit. Chris seems to be one of those.

I think it bothers other people for reasons which can be summarized as "Chris is not a good person. Therefore he should not get anything good. Anything good that happens to him is an outrage". If you have that perspective, I would suggest you take note of the fact that he is a 32-year old autistic man with serious gender issues who lives with his elderly, crazy, hording, controlling mother mother who has in a crumbling house filled to the brim with charred remains of useless junk, and whose one major life goal for the past decade, to find love/sex, has failed epically. Hopefully that satisfies your desire to see him punished by the universe.

 

[AnOminous]

I think it bothers people because they feel "he doesn't deserve it". It's not an illogical point of view. He is producing extremely poor quality, unoriginal stuff, so it is easy for people to look at themselves or their talented friends who don't make money off their art and think that there is an unfairness to it.

The only reason he's even famous enough to exploit his reputation for money for goods of questionable inherent value is that he was trolled all to hell. That is, because of the attention that is lavished upon him by the very people complaining about his notoriety.

 

[Morbid Boredom]

I see this on Facebook, sometimes.

Spoiler: Le meme

@Marvin has pointed out that Chris's fame represents the changing nature of celebrity. In the internet age, anyone can potentially get noticed. Chris has finally, after 8 years of being mocked and sometimes abused, won some consolation prize.

 

[Lipitor]

I see your point, but he is not going to get a job unless he is forced to. And there isn't anything on the horizon that is forcing him. The tugboat is there for that purpose.

When Chris is short of money, getting a job is way down on the list of solutions he cycles through. Far enough down that we haven't seen it. He tries begging, selling crap from the horde, borrowing, cutting back on expenses, selling Sonichu crap.

So if you remove his Sonichu sales, he would just have less to do and have less money. And then muddle through with those other alternatives.

Honestly, I could see him shrugging his shoulders, saying "there's nothing to be done", and then living in his car or a shelter before he seriously started applying for jobs. It just doesn't seem to be on his radar.

I think it bothers people because they feel "he doesn't deserve it". It's not an illogical point of view. He is producing extremely poor quality, unoriginal stuff, so it is easy for people to look at themselves or their talented friends who don't make money off their art and think that there is an unfairness to it. But the world just doesn't work that way. And if you start going down that road, you have to start nit-picking the salary of every overpaid middle-manager. Sometimes people make more money than their talents merit. Chris seems to be one of those.

I think it bothers other people for reasons which can be summarized as "Chris is not a good person. Therefore he should not get anything good. Anything good that happens to him is an outrage". If you have that perspective, I would suggest you take note of the fact that he is a 32-year old autistic man with serious gender issues who lives with his elderly, crazy, hording, controlling mother mother who has in a crumbling house filled to the brim with charred remains of useless junk, and whose one major life goal for the past decade, to find love/sex, has failed epically. Hopefully that satisfies your desire to see him punished by the universe.

Eh, I don't think anyone really expects him to get a job, so much as mentions it as something that would normalize him to the human experience. I don't care if you think he could/couldn't work or if you think he should/shouldn't work. The kick in the ass from reality is what people want to see when they say Chris should get a job. Literally all he does is whine that he doesn't get any of the privileges of adult life, while making very little effort towards earning any of that. I mean the dude literally squanders his govt funded tugboat on fast food and toys, it's hard not to disapprove of that. He cries about how lonely he is and how he doesn't get pussy, but at the same time doesn't have to work, one of the shittier parts about being an adult. It'd be less pathetic if he complained about his shitty job than pussy.

Having said all that, I don't think Chris should get a job either. Not because he's mentally incapable but just cuz he's a sorry sack of shit who would just get in the way. I used to work in retail, the owner had a kid with a rare mental disability, so she started a program where Speds from the local high school could work in the store for a few months to teach them job skills. Which meant I was in charge of them. The kids came in 3 categories: the kids who were slow, but worked hard and respected authority and slowly yet surely figured out how to handle basic tasks on their own, the kids who were just too mentally disabled for it to be worth their while, they tried hard, but the time you spent watching over them didn't justify what they could put in, the kids who were entitled brats who acted like children at the thought of having to something they didn't want to, who would misbehave or do whatever they wanted, because they knew no consequence would come of it, cuz of 'tism card. Chris would assuredly be the last category. I think when most people say Chris SHOULD get a job, they really just want him to get an injection of reality and what being an adult really means. It's hard to have a lot of sympathy for his unrealistic goals in life.

 

[AnOminous]

Eh, I don't think anyone really expects him to get a job, so much as mentions it as something that would normalize him to the human experience. I don't care if you think he could/couldn't work or if you think he should/shouldn't work. The kick in the ass from reality is what people want to see when they say Chris should get a job. Literally all he does is whine that he doesn't get any of the privileges of adult life, while making very little effort towards earning any of that. I mean the dude literally squanders his govt funded tugboat on fast food and toys, it's hard not to disapprove of that. He cries about how lonely he is and how he doesn't get pussy, but at the same time doesn't have to work, one of the shittier parts about being an adult. It'd be less pathetic if he complained about his shitty job than pussy.

Having said all that, I don't think Chris should get a job either. Not because he's mentally incapable but just cuz he's a sorry sack of shit who would just get in the way. I used to work in retail, the owner had a kid with a rare mental disability, so she started a program where Speds from the local high school could work in the store for a few months to teach them job skills. Which meant I was in charge of them. The kids came in 3 categories: the kids who were slow, but worked hard and respected authority and slowly yet surely figured out how to handle basic tasks on their own, the kids who were just too mentally disabled for it to be worth their while, they tried hard, but the time you spent watching over them didn't justify what they could put in, the kids who were entitled brats who acted like children at the thought of having to something they didn't want to, who would misbehave or do whatever they wanted, because they knew no consequence would come of it, cuz of 'tism card. Chris would assuredly be the last category. I think when most people say Chris SHOULD get a job, they really just want him to get an injection of reality and what being an adult really means. It's hard to have a lot of sympathy for his unrealistic goals in life.

So Chris should get a job but Chris shouldn't get a job because reasons, but he's bad for either.

In short, die Chris die.

 

[Lipitor]

So Chris should get a job but Chris shouldn't get a job because reasons, but he's bad for either.

In short, die Chris die.

More like, I understand what people are actually saying when they say Chris should get a job. I don't think anyone is actually surprised he never gets one.

Much like how all comments in chris threads are:

A: Die, Chris Die

B: You can't just will chris to die, dude.

 

[heyyyJackiePie]

I'm in the camp that thinks Chris should get a job. But when I say "job", it isn't a job per se. What I really mean is that he needs some kind of structured experience in the real world. There are other ways to get this structure, such as the military or volunteer work, but a job is the most realistic and available option for him (and most people). A church group or a program for adults with autism could help too.

@Lipitor makes a key point that Chris wants the benefits of adult life, but still wants to live like a child without adult responsibilities. He complains on and on about how lonely he is, how he needs money, how he has no friends. But what does he do to improve his situation? What does he do to seek a structured experience in the real world to seek these adult benefits? Almost nothing. He makes no effort to really understand reality or try to view himself as the world sees him and reflect why is he in the place he is.

On a side note, @timtommy makes an important comment about Chris' suffering. The only thing you left off the list I think are the most important - the CWCKI and KiwiFarms. He has paid so severely for his mistakes that he has is own wiki dedicated to documenting his mistakes and an online forum to laugh and discuss his comings and goings. Has Chris been punished more than he deserves? You could argue either way and I haven't thought of this. But he has paid for his mistakes severely. So people that want and hope to see Chris suffer even more should really think about their motives.

 

[Tragi-Chan]

I see this on Facebook, sometimes.

Spoiler: Le meme

@Marvin has pointed out that Chris's fame represents the changing nature of celebrity. In the internet age, anyone can potentially get noticed. Chris has finally, after 8 years of being mocked and sometimes abused, won some consolation prize.

There have always been celebrities who didn't really deserve their success. Emperor Norton was a madman in San Francisco who achieved local notoriety. Rollen Stewart (the John 3:16 guy) became a national celebrity by showing up at televised events and looking strange. With the rise of reality TV, weird celebrities can be cranked out on a production line basis. And now, the democratic nature of the Internet means that literally anyone with an Internet connection can be spotted and instantly propelled to fame. All that's really changed is the technology involved.

As a species, we're as fascinated by freaks as we are by geniuses. If not more so - a "legitimate" celebrity is someone who basically follows the rules of society. The other sort fascinates us because they break the rules.
[/wank]

 

[TempestsFury]

Chris' employment future looks pretty bleak.

However, how long, and to what extent can he support himself selling christorical artifacts ( or even some of Barb's junk?)

There is plenty of it to sell. I know the Chris Chan market is niche and limited, but it exists all the same.

How long can Chris support himself or meet his basic needs by selling his junk?

 

[Rin]

Chris' employment future looks pretty bleak.

However, how long, and to what extent can he support himself selling christorical artifacts ( or even some of Barb's junk?)

There is plenty of it to sell. I know the Chris Chan market is niche and limited, but it exists all the same.

How long can Chris support himself or meet his basic needs by selling his junk?

General consensus is that Chris manages to have his basic needs met satisfactorily by the tugboat. The money he makes from his sales seem to go more towards buying video games and Legos than to feed himself. Also, a lot of it seems to be less motivated by financial desire and more pet projects he does for fun.

 

[Master Miller]

A job would probably help Chris integrate into society better and introduce a degree of normality into his life. It'd probably be too much of a drag for him though. Chris only does something if the effort to benefit ratio is greatly in favour of benefit. He'd probably have more money and be able to buy the junk he wants, but he'd also have to sacrifice his time and do something he doesn't enjoy. Nobody's really going to bug him to get a job, so he's not going to be motivated to find one.

Considering he's making money from Sonichu and probably enjoys it, there's no reason for him to do conventional work. His current arrangements sustain his surreal existence pretty well.

 

[Subconcious Offense]

How DID Chris get convinced to finally try futilely retconning the comic to bypass copyright infringement, after so long? Who said what to him to make this happen?