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So, what's the deal with Chris selling bjs? Did he comment on that? Is there any aftermath for that? Even his most faithful "fans" got pretty upset with that shit.
He was also selling his mother's stuff. People assumed she was rip. Chris being the fucking asshole that he is (he sold his father old collection of stamps and other shit).

Do you people think his mean spirit posture has something to do with him being autistic or just bad parenting? I tend to feel like people tolerate Chris under the excuse that he is mentally ill... but is he really THAT mentally retarded? He is a high functional autistic person. He can drive, he behaves "properly" for a normal manchild. I don't think pulling the "he is autistic, give him a break" is a reasonable excuse. Some people will even say he isn't really autistic and that is just a condition to excuse bad parenting that result in a social inept manchild.
 
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Do you people think his mean spirit posture has something to do with him being autistic or just bad parenting? I tend to feel like people tolerate Chris under the excuse that he is mentally ill... but is he really THAT mentally exceptional? He is a high functional autistic person. He can drive, he behaves "properly" for a normal manchild. I don't think pulling the "he is autistic, give him a break" is a reasonable excuse. Some people will even say he isn't really autistic and that is just a condition to excuse bad parenting that result in a social inept manchild.
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LOL, calm down.
 
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Okkervils said:
lol no
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He is capable of doing everything a normal person can. His "disability" in no way stops him from being fully functional. His behavior mirrors more of a manchild, the result of awful parenting, a person too sheltered and spoiled.
He had a normal school life, he was actually quite social with his "gal" pals.
The problems started when he was force to confront the real world, to go to a place where people expect you to behave like an adult. A place like college.

I don't want to dismiss autism as a problem regarding Chris, but from what I know, from what I saw and read, his autism isn't all that problematic. Again, it feels like the bigger source that led to his troubled development as a child was pure and bad parenting.
 
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He is capable of doing everything a normal person can. His "disability" in no way stops him from being fully functional. His behavior mirrors more of a manchild, the result of awful parenting, a person too sheltered and spoiled.
He had a normal school life, he was actually quite social with his "gal" pals.
The problems started when he was force to confront the real world, to go to a place where people expect you to behave like an adult. A place like college.

I don't want to dismiss autism as a problem regarding Chris, but from what I know, from what I saw and read, his autism isn't all that problematic. Again, it feels like the bigger source that led to his troubled development as a child was pure and bad parenting.
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Millions of people are brought up terribly. Yes, his parents failed him but there are way deeper things going on here. He believed he was growing a vagina when all he had was an open infection, he allegedly believes animu girls are gods, he thinks someday he'll be able to give birth... I could go on and on... Is it the 'tism alone? Doubtful. I think there are undiagnosed mental illnesses at play. But to say he's as functional as the average bear is over the top. His grip on reality is profoundly disabling imo.

eta: If Chris had remained like 2009 Chris, maybe I could understand your point of view.
 
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Millions of people are brought up terribly. Yes, his parents failed him but there are way deeper things going on here. He believed he was growing a vagina when all he had was an open infection, he allegedly believes animu girls are gods, he thinks someday he'll be able to give birth... I could go on and on... Is it the 'tism alone? Doubtful. I think there are undiagnosed mental illnesses at play. But to say he's as functional as the average bear is over the top. His grip on reality is profoundly disabling imo.
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Plenty of people, the lolcows, show such problematic behavior. Erratic and at points, self destructive.
Are you going to claim every person obsessed with gangstalking is autistic? Or that Randy Stairs, that believed his Danny Phantom OCs were real and he would be fucking them if he killed enough people, is a clinically autistic person? Or are you going to blame external reasons like social interactions as reasons that turned normal people with insane individuals?

It is common to see well adjusted, normal people, turned into insane zealots. People that got fed propaganda, their minds format by other groups, that turned those "good citizens" into public menaces.
I doubt that bad parenting isn't the bigger cause for Chris lack of social skills or normal behavior. I saw plenty of autistic people to whom lives were actually affected by serious cases of autism. Where autism is a serious mental illness that cause retardation in mental development and grow.

What I see in Chris is the result of bad parenting and bad social decisions.
 
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Are you on the spectrum? Serious question.
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Why is questioning Chris autism such a taboo theme? Why people tend to be so evasive when confronted with the notion that Chris is more of a manchild than a serious case of autism?
I'm sick and tired of people enabling Chris, excusing his shit behavior with "oh he is such a fucking mentally retarded person. He knows no better :3 just give him more money for legos or and ignore him using his dying mother to guilt trip people into giving him shekels"
 
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BananaBlue said:
Plenty of people, the lolcows, show such problematic behavior. Erratic and at points, self destructive.
Are you going to claim every person obsessed with gangstalking is autistic? Or that Randy Stairs, that believed his Danny Phantom OCs were real and he would be fucking them if he killed enough people, is a clinically autistic person? Or are you going to blame external reasons like social interactions as reasons that turned normal people with insane individuals?

It is common to see well adjusted, normal people, turned into insane zealots. People that got fed propaganda, their minds format by other groups, that turned those "good citizens" into public menaces.
I doubt that bad parenting isn't the bigger cause for Chris lack of social skills or normal behavior. I saw plenty of autistic people to whom lives were actually affected by serious cases of autism. Where autism is a serious mental illness that cause exceptionalism in mental development and grow.

What I see in Chris is the result of bad parenting and bad social decisions.
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You're not quite understanding what I'm laying down, homeslice. Autism isn't a mental illness first off, it's a developmental disorder. You can have autism along with a mental illness. People who are paranoid to a point of debilitatation (ex. gangstalking) are ALL mentally ill. Maybe they have autism too, it's a case by case thing and really it's unrelated.

Is mental illness genetic or the result of environmental factors? It can absolutely be both but I'm 99% sure Bob and Barbara didn't encourage taint cutting when Chris was a wee lad. I'm doubtful they told him he could grow a uterus and I'm doubtful that when they talked about sex they encouraged him to drink his semen with a side of his preferred soda.

His laziness and tendency to be a mooch could be parenting, his bizarre beliefs about his body, the world and his absolute disconnect from reality is something else entirely.
 
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BananaBlue said:
He is capable of doing everything a normal person can. His "disability" in no way stops him from being fully functional. His behavior mirrors more of a manchild, the result of awful parenting, a person too sheltered and spoiled.
He had a normal school life, he was actually quite social with his "gal" pals.
The problems started when he was force to confront the real world, to go to a place where people expect you to behave like an adult. A place like college.

I don't want to dismiss autism as a problem regarding Chris, but from what I know, from what I saw and read, his autism isn't all that problematic. Again, it feels like the bigger source that led to his troubled development as a child was pure and bad parenting.
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I don't know if you are trolling, but just in case:
A huge part of why he originally got attention was because he did extremely socially awkward things with no understanding of other people's perspectives. For just one example -- his attraction sign which got him banned from various favorite haunts, disagreements with police and suspended from his community college. He went on for a long time thinking he was the hero, and publishing his struggles with the CC's administration in his comic until his mother explained how stupid it made him look. Even in middle school that would be a very weird way to find a friend or a date to a dance, that isn't just childish behavior.

He was trolled merciously by often mean-spirited people, who justified it because he had wrong-think (parroted racism, sexism and homophobia), but the reason they kept at it was because it was fun because he had so little social awareness and theory of mind that he couldn't identify trolls at all, and ended being a great plaything for them.

If he wasn't autistic he would just be another unenlightened, lower intelligent entry level worker like a billion others, no one would care about him

Edit: also if you look at sites like wrong planet, obsessive behavior towards figures of their infatuation (Doopie in his case) seems to be a very common among people on the spectrum. Not to mention the Blue Arms stuff
 
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Okkervils said:
You're not quite understanding what I'm laying down, homeslice. Autism isn't a mental illness first off, it's a developmental disorder. You can have autism along with a mental illness. People who are paranoid to a point of debilitatation (ex. gangstalking) are ALL mentally ill. Maybe they have autism too, it's a case by case thing and really it's unrelated.

Is mental illness genetic or the result of environmental factors? It can absolutely be both but I'm 99% sure Bob and Barbara didn't encourage taint cutting when Chris was a wee lad. I'm doubtful they told him he could grow a uterus and I'm doubtful that when they talked about sex they encouraged him to drink his semen with a side of his preferred soda.

His laziness and tendency to be a mooch could be parenting, his bizarre beliefs about his body, the world and his absolute disconnect from reality is something else entirely.
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I agree with you. A lot of mental illness tend to be dormant till an catalyst fires up psychosis and other erratic behavior. But again, I still think that, regarding those cases, and Chris is part of that group, a lot of the issues those people end up manifesting could be easily avoided through proper social interaction and parenting.

Regarding Chris going full insanity and self mutilation, again, you can blame lack of parenting. In this case, a broken home. Father gone, mother in an almost comatose state. He (Chris) was a problematic guy during the Sonichu saga., but he only had a huge change after his father died and his life got flipped upside down.

The more you free Chris (no father figure, no one to guide him) the more he goes to the extreme. It shows that, if he got strict parenting during his youth, a lot of his social disabilities he now possesses, could have been avoid. Maybe with a firm and dedicated father, Chris could be now a productive member of society with some social quirks yes, but not the mess he is now.
 
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BananaBlue said:
I agree with you. A lot of mental illness tend to be dormant till an catalyst fires up psychosis and other erratic behavior. But again, I still think that, regarding those cases, and Chris is part of that group, a lot of the issues those people end up manifesting could be easily avoided through proper social interaction and parenting.

Regarding Chris going full insanity and self mutilation, again, you can blame lack of parenting. In this case, a broken home. Father gone, mother in an almost comatose state. He (Chris) was a problematic guy during the Sonichu saga., but he only had a huge change after his father died and his life got flipped upside down.

The more you free Chris (no father figure, no one to guide him) the more he goes to the extreme. It shows that, if he got strict parenting during his youth, a lot of his social disabilities he now possesses, could have been avoid. Maybe with a firm and dedicated father, Chris could be now a productive member of society with some social quirks yes, but not the mess he is now.
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You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about. Go back to your highschool psychology class.
 
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Since we're discussing his autism, the one thing that always bothered me about it was his physical clinginess to other people. My cousin has autism, and the thing I learned was that autistic people are normally very uncomfortable with physical intimacy, even things like a hand shake or a hug. They have a personal bubble and don't want anyone inside of it. I think I remember reading something that it was even common for autistic couples to sleep in separate beds. Is this not the case, or is it just different for everyone? Chris constantly trying to touch women was the one thing that used me to make me pause and wonder if he was really autistic, or just fucking retarded in other ways that mimicked it
 
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Since we're discussing his autism, the one thing that always bothered me about it was his physical clinginess to other people. My cousin has autism, and the thing I learned was that autistic people are normally very uncomfortable with physical intimacy, even things like a hand shake or a hug. They have a personal bubble and don't want anyone inside of it. I think I remember reading something that it was even common for autistic couples to sleep in separate beds. Is this not the case, or is it just different for everyone?
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It's different for everyone. There are a bunch of symptoms of autism and not every autistic person has all of them.
 
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