Containment Random Thoughts & Questions

[Marvin]

How so?

They leave a trail of puzzle pieces in their wake.

 

[Quijibo69]

Now he’s going after Bryan in a way similar to Doopie, do you think he’ll become a hyper fanboy with this too or is this a one off?

Maybe he thinks Bryan is Bryan Dunn?

 

[The Captain]

They leave a trail of puzzle pieces in their wake.

They aren't very good at hiding it - so it becomes painfully obvious.

 

[Rotornabe]

How so?

Do you know much if anything about austism, because Chris pretty much checks every box to a remarkable degree, yet you seem to be questioning it just because he had a bad upbringing? (or do you have trouble distinguishing the what is normal vs. abnormal social behavior in the first place...?). And remember he is treated as high-functioning btw


Autism by definition, even higher functioning, means they have problems with social interaction. In extensive socialization with autistic people (the degree varies their functioning) who didn't get interventions, others will typically have to adapt to them, either smiling and nodding while bored, spelling important things out literally, or ignoring them. Additionally, noticible, often blatant, theory of mind issues become apparent; they don't account for others thinking differently than them or some other specific stereotype, making interaction them often boring (they assume you share their interests) and any alterior motives or macchinations on their part extremely transparent, yet they think you didn't notice. Chris' alter egos paintingatree and JenkinsJinkies is pretty much this up to the 11

Spoiler: more sperging on sperging

-Even high level ones miss out on countless unwritten rules which govern most people's behavior. They are the ones raising their hands and giving 5 minute responses right before class ends, when anyone else would give a one-word answer to get out the door.
-They tend to be very repetive and narrow in their interests, wanting to do things over and over where others get bored out of their mind.
-They often have age inappropriate interests which they often think are universal (again TOM issues), and younger or older friends if any.
- They need lots of structure and complain or even "melt down" when things change and their expectations are not met.

Because of deficits are operating while missing a great deal of input from others (often: facial expressions, implied statements, tone of voice, sarcasm, cultural norms, lots of symbolic and non-literal language in general), and the social framework others pick up from a very young age. Which, if not dealt with, can cascades as they get grow out of childhood but they had received only a fraction of the social understanding of everyone else. Also, because of their love of repition and structure, far less different life experiences altogether.

 

[BananaBlue]

Autism by definition, even higher functioning, means they have problems with social interaction. In extensive socialization with autistic people (the degree varies their functioning) who didn't get interventions, others will typically have to adapt to them, either smiling and nodding while bored, spelling important things out literally, or ignoring them. Additionally, noticible, often blatant, theory of mind issues become apparent; they don't account for others thinking differently than them or some other specific stereotype, making interaction them often boring (they assume you share their interests) and any alterior motives or macchinations on their part extremely transparent, yet they think you didn't notice

Can't those characteristics also be attributed to normal people? Anti social behavior, lack of focus, egocentric?
The thing that makes me question how autism is really a big issue for Chris is regarding his high-school years. The way he talks, the way his "gal pals" talked about him, he seemed to be a quite social person. Yes, not a popular guy in school, bullying affects many, not just Chris school days, but for autism to be so heavy on Chris to affect his social adaptability, wouldn't that manifest when he was a teenager as well?

Granted, we really don't know how is teenage years went, if he was really that social or it's just a case of "he said, she said". They did say they hanged out with him for pity. And there is that case of Chris being mistreated by his babysitter and not talking for years due to the trauma.
I still think his autism isn't as intrusive as some and him want others to think.

 

[CWCissey]

And there is that case of Chris being mistreated by his babysitter and not talking for years due to the trauma.

Hi Chris!

 

[ES 148]

Chris is like the brother I never had

 

[BananaBlue]

Hi Chris!

I'm just saying what was reported by him and apparently, by his parents as well. Obviously it can just Chris overreacting to shit.
There is also another case of that recording of an alleged assault on chris by his teacher, even tho you can assume there wasn't any mistreatment and what really happen is the teacher recorded chris screeching and misbehaving to have it as a recorded evidence of chris problematic behavior.
Of course chris, and his parents, being the shit people they are, turned that shit into something that it wasn't, a case of assault.

 

[Becomedizzy]

I don't know if its just me or not, but I associate warmer weather with catching up on some Christory.

Maybe it's because the majority of videos I have watched are always of Chris in a hot-looking bedroom or outside in the sun.

Anyway. Time to catch up.
Hi again

 

[Peace and Harmony]

I still think his autism isn't as intrusive as some and him want others to think.

Yours might be, though.

 

[Coconut Gun]

Why doesn't Chris ever just say "Hey, I know I've been acting strange lately. Here's why: [insert retarded story the latest ween told him]"?

 

[Rotornabe]

Can't those characteristics also be attributed to normal people? Anti social behavior, lack of focus, egocentric?
The thing that makes me question how autism is really a big issue for Chris is regarding his high-school years. The way he talks, the way his "gal pals" talked about him, he seemed to be a quite social person. Yes, not a popular guy in school, bullying affects many, not just Chris school days, but for autism to be so heavy on Chris to affect his social adaptability, wouldn't that manifest when he was a teenager as well?

He had his galpals out of pity/because they were compensated. And being autistic doen't mean you don't want and seek socialization; that would be schizoid pd or certain attachment disorders. Autistic means you generally want friends like anyone else but can't get /keep normal friendships or relationships. Wrong Planet for autists has literally 1000s questions about how to make friends, it is a major problem for autists.

Why is questioning Chris autism such a taboo theme? Why people tend to be so evasive when confronted with the notion that Chris is more of a manchild than a serious case of autism?
I'm sick and tired of people enabling Chris, excusing his shit behavior with "oh he is such a fucking mentally exceptional person. He knows no better :3 just give him more money for legos or and ignore him using his dying mother to guilt trip people into giving him shekels"

It's not taboo, it's because Chris clearly has extreme problems with social awareness, and theory of mind (see his attraction sign and JenkinsJinkies disguise for example), yet you keep wanting to ascribe it to problems that cause neither of these symptoms like being anti-social (as in ASPD?) and having a rough childhood. And he clearly had very abnormal childhood behavior associated with autism (speech delays) and teenage behavior (taking his mom to prom, almost never hanging out with friends) yet you don't seem to see the abnormalities and, in fact, use it as an example of his normality, which leads one to ask: do his quintessentially autistic traits seem like normal behavior to you? I don't care if you are autistic, I am just wondering how you think any of the biographic episodes in his life involve Neurotypical on his part?

 

[BananaBlue]

you don't seem to see the abnormalities and, in fact, use it as an example of his normality, which leads one to ask: do his quintessentially autistic traits seem like normal behavior to you? I don't care if you are autistic, I am just wondering how you think any of the biographic episodes in his life involve Neurotypical on his part?

I always said those were erratic, that Chris has social problems, I'm not dismissing them. I'm just saying that a lot of those issue could also be associated with the environment he grew up in.
We all hear the news. How normal, well adjusted people turned insane shooters. Of course Chris isn't normal, of course Chris is mentally unstable. I was just wondering if bad parenting is also a big cause for his social disabilities.

With that said I can see a lot of points you mention and others are incredibly valid. Assuming autism isn't the bigger problem is a naive thought. Anti social behavior and some personality quirks aren't enough to cripple a person mentally and socially, unlike Chris's case which seems to have triple the issues.

Anyways, thanks for making things more clear to me. I really need to deepen my knowledge regarding this subject so I don't act like a dumb fool.

 

[Magusyrup]

Why doesn't Chris ever just say "Hey, I know I've been acting strange lately. Here's why: [insert exceptional story the latest ween told him]"?

Because right now Christory is an ARG all about discovering which wacky exceptional individual is de-railing the Sonichu mythos/Chris's life this month, and that would spoil all the "fun"

 

[ToroidalBoat]

"Chris used to have an irrational fear towards homosexual men, particularly out of fear that he would become a homo himself." - CWCki

[insert exceptional story the latest ween told him]"?

Why is it that he's been so manipulated by weens nowadays? I don't think we ever saw this level of manipulation before, even during the clownshirt days.

 

[The Captain]

"Chris used to have an irrational fear towards homosexual men, particularly out of fear that he would become a homo himself." - CWCki




Why is it that he's been so manipulated by weens nowadays? I don't think we ever saw this level of manipulation before, even during the clownshirt days.

Whoever has been pulling the strings the last few months is boring at best. The best Chris is an unmanipulated Chris. I suspect whoever has been playing puppetmaster is considerably more exceptional than Chris ever will be!

 

[Nobunaga]

Whoever has been pulling the strings the last few months is boring at best. The best Chris is an unmanipulated Chris. I suspect whoever has been playing puppetmaster is considerably more exceptional than Chris ever will be!

To be fair it doesnt require mutch to manipulate chris, it takes almost as much energy to open a soda to puppet master chris into doing stupid shit

 

[WorldsSmartestManRonOTool]

I'm 99% sure Bob and Barbara didn't encourage taint cutting when Chris was a wee lad. I'm doubtful they told him he could grow a uterus and I'm doubtful that when they talked about sex they encouraged him to drink his semen with a side of his preferred soda.

Funniest shit I have read in a while.

Hi again

How YOU doin'?

 

[LoveYouLongTime]

To be fair it doesnt require mutch to manipulate chris, it takes almost as mutch energy to open a soda to puppet master chris into doing stupid shit

Is there an inside joke that you keep spelling it "mutch."

Chris isn't necessarily hard to manipulate. It's getting his attention to what will appeal to him the most. If you have 50 people using the same tactic of getting Chris' attention, ie, calling him Ian Brandon Anderson or calling him a fat autistic slob he's not going to pay attention to it. Even if you get his attention by offering him something like money or BJs or whatever you crazy kids want to give him doesn't automatically mean he will be receptive to whatever you want.

 

[Nobunaga]

Is there an inside joke that you keep spelling it "mutch."

Chris isn't necessarily hard to manipulate. It's getting his attention to what will appeal to him the most. If you have 50 people using the same tactic of getting Chris' attention, ie, calling him Ian Brandon Anderson or calling him a fat autistic slob he's not going to pay attention to it. Even if you get his attention by offering him something like money or BJs or whatever you crazy kids want to give him doesn't automatically mean he will be receptive to whatever you want.

Didnt realize i spelled it wrong, fixing it atm
But to adress your point, yeah you're right, to get a reaction out of chris chan you dont really require much, but to get an specific reaction from him you do require a bit of planning and knowledge on how his """""head"""""" works