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lots of autists grew up in that time period and post the Reagan deinstitutionalization movement sure most of them probably ended up homeless - but they didn't necessarily become what Chris became. His autism isn't what separates him from others, but rather the feedback loop of neglect in his home plus the autistic documentation of his life.

Again, I don't understand why there's this vision of Bob as this "honorable man." He was an impotent old fuck by Chris's adolescence. From what we've seen he enabled his rapey ways, consoomerism and delusions of grandeur. If anything he would probably blame Barb - that actually adds up with the dynamics and structure of the family.
Chris absolutely has more wrong with him than just autism. Blorb definitely had a lot to do with how he is now. Bob engaged in ridiculous conspiracy theories and passed them on to Chris in addition to what you’ve said.

He’d still draw the line at his wife being violated.
 
Chris absolutely has more wrong with him than just autism. Blorb definitely had a lot to do with how he is now. Bob engaged in ridiculous conspiracy theories and passed them on to Chris in addition to what you’ve said.

He’d still draw the line at his wife being violated.

With how much they infantilized Chris, you don't think he would see it as Barb seducing him or molesting him? It's speculation either way IMO but that's what I'm gauging from their dynamics.
 
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I was reading CWCki and something catched my eye, since January 2021 Chris had been shocking his magic stones with a taser "to activate the merge".

Bella was obsessed with tasers, and even got arrested in NY over them, is it possible that Bella put the thought of using a taser in Chris' head?
I wouldn't be surprised if that was the case. Knowing the greasy things the Chess Club were into, they probably pitched it as a "Sonichu Zapper". It would be the next step, Chris had a can of mace and predictably sprayed himself to test it out. I'm amazed he didn't shock himself in the process.


I am kinda interested in making a "Family Therapy" thread somewhere for Psychfags and Therapyspergs to talk about other lolcow family structures, but not sure where or how that would go...!
Health would be the best bet. With Chris alone there's a goldmine of analysis and content. No doubt there's common themes between Chris and the herd.
 
I think at that point, people would say "Chris would never rape his mom; he just says it, but doesn't act on it." Chris has gotten lucky after vehicular assault and assault with a weapon. Even after all that and professionals who examined Chris gave him a pass, but on their error, they never would have thought ""what else can Chris do worse?"

I think the real point of concern would be if Chris actually did act on that and Bob was still alive, would he testify against his own son?
I think many followers of Chris’s antics, or at least I was, were in denial about much a sex pest Chris was even though the evidence has always been there, dismissing it as Chris being naive and just not understanding social norms or giving him a pass because the women who did say anything were mostly trolls leading him on (Aside from a few exceptions like Megan) and the information only came out once they lost access to Chris:
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He would kiss on us, hug us, rub on us, press his head against ours randomly, get incredibly close... He is really rapey, it's awful. Especially because at the time, we were all minors.
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Chris wanted to kiss me after the second outing (which I adamantly declared was not a date, several times, which Chris refused to accept), and I said no. That's weird, that's creepy, we aren't dating.... NO. He asked for a hug, instead, and I still said no because I said it felt uncomfortable since we weren't dating. So instead he "walked me to the car" and as I was getting in he just half climbed in after me and hugged me really awkwardly, bent in half since I was sitting down, face-down in my tits. His hair smells awful and his hairline is like half back on his head. It was one of many moments where I was so stunned I couldn't meaningfully react.
And that kind of thing, including the convention he got kicked out of where people mainly reacted like ‘Oh, Chris doesn’t know any better, he thinks that’s just how women act towards their fans’.

Maybe it’d be for the best if Chris is put on the sex registry and (I assume) isn’t allowed near any events which minors might attend like Pokemon card clubs or My Little Pony conventions.
 
Why didn't we just let Sockness have Chris, and then ALL THIS would have been prevented?!?

If only we'd take the reins away from Null, and given them to Jacob, Barb would remain un-raped, and Chris would be playing Legos at Branchland Crt, instead of ranting about being Jesus, in cellblock G!!
 
Maybe it’d be for the best if Chris is put on the sex registry and (I assume) isn’t allowed near any events which minors might attend like Pokemon card clubs or My Little Pony conventions
It's pointing to exactly that. No convention or event is ever going to want to approach Chris. With what he's done to Barb and stuff like his current jail letter, no way can someone say "he doesn't know any better." That excuse went out the window. Even if you were to ask the people who helped him during his TMG meltdown, I really doubt they'd come to his aid now.
 
Bob seemed to think Chris would have been sent to a torture chamber to wear a straitjacket and drool on himself all day.

We do need to remember that in the 80s and 90s, people were still learning about autism and how to help people who have it. Bob was wrong about what would have happened, but it wouldn’t have been as good as autists have it now. The resources have improved over the decades.

Chris should not have been in a mainstream school, though. They had the option and refused it like stubborn fools.

But anyway, Bob would have put Barb before Chris if the rape happened while he was alive. You don’t rape a man’s wife, even if you’re his kid. Especially if you’re his kid. It’s layers of wrong.
I'm almost exactly Chris's age, and both my parents were in their 30s when I was born. When I was growing up I didn't fit in very well but I did manage to make a couple friends. I've got my shit together since then but my mom was terrified I'd end up in a reform school. I'm from Florida. When I was young she would tell me horror stories about young boys being put in freezers with nothing but their underwear. There was a place called the Dozier Boys School and it's surrounded by graves.
 
Bob seemed to think Chris would have been sent to a torture chamber to wear a straitjacket and drool on himself all day.

We do need to remember that in the 80s and 90s, people were still learning about autism and how to help people who have it. Bob was wrong about what would have happened, but it wouldn’t have been as good as autists have it now. The resources have improved over the decades.

Chris should not have been in a mainstream school, though. They had the option and refused it like stubborn fools.

But anyway, Bob would have put Barb before Chris if the rape happened while he was alive. You don’t rape a man’s wife, even if you’re his kid. Especially if you’re his kid. It’s layers of wrong.
I almost give the Chandlers a pass on this one. Almost. Like you said, too many people are forgetting that this shit didn’t go down 5 years ago. This was the mid to late 80s and Bob was old. Tard care, particularly specialized towards autism, didn’t really get rolling until the 90s. Before that they basically warehoused them. If you were lucky they’d take em for a walk twice a day and keep their asses wiped.

Bobs fears were not unwarranted paranoid bullshit he plucked from the sky, the Willowbrook Institution exposé only came out a mere 9 years before Chris was born. If you’ve seen that, you can understand a parents concerns once they hand their kid over to the state:
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And these are the “nice” pics of Willowbrook. The brochure pics. If I posted pics of the worst of it, the glowies would flag my shit for sure.

Personally I’m of the unpopular opinion that mainstreaming wasn’t a mistake in theory. It was his most productive, socialized and “normal” time in his life that seems to be almost entirely trouble free. And it was the mid 90s, every other goddamn town didn’t have a specialized school for autism and companies didn’t provide fucking sensory overload rooms like today. The problem is after high school they couldn’t figure out a way to keep the ball rolling on their own and that’s where Chris fell off. They both tried too much AND too little. Thinking Chris was community college ready, yet also letting him actively indulge in toys and media designed for very young children.
 
So I was with my sister and her son, my nephew. He's around 13, 14 years old. He's tech savvy, and she's warning him about the perils of the internet, and to watch out for strangers taking advantage of him. I then thought of Chris (mark me late). While still having the mind of a child in the 20s, Chris was being taken advantage of by trolls, notably one of whom was a 13 year old child. Chris was out smarted by a kid. If Christory repeats itself, which it most often does, if it wasn't Janke, I think another kid that age could easily fool Chris again.
 
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Aw Barbie Chan’s 80th birthday is coming up on the 8th. I wonder, if it fell on a rape day on the rape calendar, if Chris would’ve given her pussy the day off or if he had some special birthday raping planned.

Damn.. too bad he got busted before HIS birthday. Being balls deep in your mom on the anniversary of first exiting her cursed snatch is such a chad move.
 
Personally I’m of the unpopular opinion that mainstreaming wasn’t a mistake in theory. It was his most productive, socialized and “normal” time in his life that seems to be almost entirely trouble free. And it was the mid 90s, every other goddamn town didn’t have a specialized school for autism and companies didn’t provide fucking sensory overload rooms like today. The problem is after high school they couldn’t figure out a way to keep the ball rolling on their own and that’s where Chris fell off. They both tried too much AND too little. Thinking Chris was community college ready, yet also letting him actively indulge in toys and media designed for very young children.
If they thought they knew better than the school district what to do by mainstreaming Chris they should have actually put in the effort to make him a functional member of society. Considering how impressionable autists are parents need to be educated about how to raise an autistic child and neither Bob nor Barb did this. Bob's reaction to everything was "go talk to your mother dont bother me with your retard shit" and Barb's reaction to everything was just threatening to kill herself. They were both horrible role models and Chris picked up all of their bad traits.

The difference is I feel bad for Bob and hate Barb. I get the sense that if Bob and Barb could have a do-over with Chris, Bob would actually try to fix the mistakes made with Chris whereas Barb would just have aborted him and married someone else.

Bob had Chris's best interests in mind but once Chris was an adult getting fired from fast food for scaring small children with Donald Duck impressions he probably finally accepted that his son truly was retarded and just got him on SSI so he would have enough to continue to persist in 14BC until Barb died at least.

I could write an essay on Barb so instead of doing that I'll just say that only the Idea Guys mindfucked Chris harder than Barb did. She fucked up Chris so badly that she unwittingly helped create the monster he would become.

Even if mainstreaming could work in theory, Chris needed the right parents to reinforce the mainstreaming and neither one of them did that for him. In many cases they even went out of there way to purposely intervene and make mainstreaming even harder for Chris.
 
Aw Barbie Chan’s 80th birthday is coming up on the 8th. I wonder, if it fell on a rape day on the rape calendar, if Chris would’ve given her pussy the day off or if he had some special birthday raping planned.

Damn.. too bad he got busted before HIS birthday. Being balls deep in your mom on the anniversary of first exiting her cursed snatch is such a chad move.
He's probably not even allowed to call her to wish her a happy birthday. Sucks for Barb, but, you reap what you sow.
 
He's probably not even allowed to call her to wish her a happy birthday. Sucks for Barb, but, you reap what you sow.
I’m chuckling over the idea of a rapist being allowed to call their victim from jail on their birthday.
“heeeyo.. you may not remember me, I met you at that party? Anyway.. just callin to wish ya a very happy birthday. So, any fun plans?”
 
Personally I’m of the unpopular opinion that mainstreaming wasn’t a mistake in theory. It was his most productive, socialized and “normal” time in his life that seems to be almost entirely trouble free. And it was the mid 90s, every other goddamn town didn’t have a specialized school for autism and companies didn’t provide fucking sensory overload rooms like today.
I think anyone who went to school in the 90s has some perspective on the "mainstreaming" experiment. I remember the exact DAY in seventh grade that they took all of the kids who could handle using the toilet and didn't need full-time helpers out of the special ed class and put them into the lowest-achieving regular classes. Luckily I wasn't in the slow group so I only had to see them in gym and got to keep having real classes in academic subjects, but as I recall it was a pretty miserable experience for everyone involved - of course the former special ed kids got mercilessly bullied, and of course the education of the "people of slightly below average intelligence" English and math class came to a total halt while trying to accommodate the new arrivals. Maybe it paid off in the end because it forced some of the kids to learn social skills, in which case the lesson is that you have to actually hold them accountable for their behavior in a way that Chris never was.
 
I think anyone who went to school in the 90s has some perspective on the "mainstreaming" experiment. I remember the exact DAY in seventh grade that they took all of the kids who could handle using the toilet and didn't need full-time helpers out of the special ed class and put them into the lowest-achieving regular classes. Luckily I wasn't in the slow group so I only had to see them in gym and got to keep having real classes in academic subjects, but as I recall it was a pretty miserable experience for everyone involved - of course the former special ed kids got mercilessly bullied, and of course the education of the "people of slightly below average intelligence" English and math class came to a total halt while trying to accommodate the new arrivals. Maybe it paid off in the end because it forced some of the kids to learn social skills, in which case the lesson is that you have to actually hold them accountable for their behavior in a way that Chris never was.
Yup, i remember my first sighting of a wild autist at my school. The kids name was Jason and was very much like Chris at that age, though he did have the ability to memorize baseball stats. Right down to bullies throwing coins at him because he couldn’t resist picking them up. Haha best thing I remember is he had a T-shirt he wore often that said “I KEEP HITTING THE ESCAPE KEY BUT IM STILL HERE!” which I found humorously appropriate.

Last I heard he managed a grocery store deli, had just gotten married to another pudgy autistic girl and was living a happy, incest free life.
 
I was away when Null did this MATI podcast, but man, there was some details that came to light: Chris was buying sex toys (for obvious reasons). Null says what was already established with Chris being kicked out of his home and him finding a place... Chris is bad with money (shocker). He was pretty lucky that he had that GoFundMe money when he did, only to screw Barb. I, like most people here know that Chris isn't ready to live on his own. Null tells Chris to stay in his car for the night - Chris steals from Barb to not only get a hotel room, but extra for more toys. Chris isn't going to get better, and is fucked once the dust settles on his court case. It will be obvious that Barb's going to try to let him come back, but even she knows that things will be drastically different.
 
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