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When he's released, I wonder if he will learn from that punishment? Given by his letters, not a dammed thing. Chris will more than likely rape Barb again, and Heilberg knows this. The only logical way to keep Chris from doing that is by making arrangements so that he'll live somewhere else.
This. The only concern I have with this is that do we think that Chris is capable of living on his own to any degree? I'm fairly late to the party when it comes to Chris, but it does not take years of knowing him just to know that he isn't capable of that. lol. Unless we consider him building a house w his legos or something.
 

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When he's released, I wonder if he will learn from that punishment? Given by his letters, not a dammed thing. Chris will more than likely rape Barb again, and Heilberg knows this. The only logical way to keep Chris from doing that is by making arrangements so that he'll live somewhere else.
Chris doesn’t learn. Not unless it’s a decade long grind teaching him not to fall for randos pretending to be women or an immediate consequence he can connect to the offending action. Which he will forget.

The Jail of Fail got him off the streets, out of Barb’s house (as well as her…you know), and maybe out of Greene County for the foreseeable future. This isn’t about teaching him anything. It’s dealing with him.

This. The only concern I have with this is that do we think that Chris is capable of living on his own to any degree? I'm fairly late to the party when it comes to Chris, but it does not take years of knowing him just to know that he isn't capable of that. lol. Unless we consider him building a house w his legos or something.
He could live in a tard home which takes most of his tugboat as payment for his room and board. In Virginia, the court has to set him up somewhere within 30 days of his release (IIRC, sorry if I got something wrong, Legal Kiwis). It’s been speculated that this is another reason why everything is taking so long: finding somewhere to chuck him is difficult.
 
He could live in a tard home which takes most of his tugboat as payment for his room and board. In Virginia, the court has to set him up somewhere within 30 days of his release (IIRC, sorry if I got something wrong, Legal Kiwis). It’s been speculated that this is another reason why everything is taking so long: finding somewhere to chuck him is difficult.
Mark me MATI, but Chris is a burden to anyone who he crosses paths with. And it's all going over his head. I guess it's for the best: if you take away the incest and things 'progressed' normally. Chris would still be living at 14 BLC until Barb dies, and at that point, he still wouldn't have planned for living on his own and enabler's would have to scramble to make arrangements for him. Let's be honest - Chris would have blown through that 5k from Null's Kickstarter donation even after Chris came back from Everfree.

A tard home would be best for Chris, but he wouldn't like that part of his tugboat would be used for room and board. Not that it matters anyway since Chris has gotten used to atrocious spending habits, and just as the tugboat dries up, he e-begs for more. Chris' days on the net will be over as well, since the home won't let him, or will at the very least, monitor his cell/internet usage.

This is Bob/Barb's worst nightmare coming true. But what would one expect - they cultivated Chris into who he is today. It was only a matter of time until the homeless/mental ward saga happened, and the Incest saga sped that up.
 
Chris doesn’t learn. Not unless it’s a decade long grind teaching him not to fall for randos pretending to be women or an immediate consequence he can connect to the offending action. Which he will forget.

The Jail of Fail got him off the streets, out of Barb’s house (as well as her…you know), and maybe out of Greene County for the foreseeable future. This isn’t about teaching him anything. It’s dealing with him.


He could live in a tard home which takes most of his tugboat as payment for his room and board. In Virginia, the court has to set him up somewhere within 30 days of his release (IIRC, sorry if I got something wrong, Legal Kiwis). It’s been speculated that this is another reason why everything is taking so long: finding somewhere to chuck him is difficult.
Could a halfway house work? Or would Chris be out of place in a house full of other convicts? (not like he isn't out of place, to begin with) Ik Virginia is full of these things, but i must be missing some legal jargon or just how they work in general. I know the judge has stated keeping him there for the betterment of basically everyone in and out of jail. I guess if they can't find a place for him he better be real nice to his cellmate.
 
Somehow I already knew that. Maybe Zach mentioned it on twitter or something?

Oneyplays has a decent stable of Chris impressions, so I'm not surprised.

I am disappointed Chris didn't finally get onto an adultswim show, since he's been a fan for years. And his contribution to Shrek Retold is unironically the funniest he's ever been to me.
 
Somehow I already knew that. Maybe Zach mentioned it on twitter or something?

Oneyplays has a decent stable of Chris impressions, so I'm not surprised.

I am disappointed Chris didn't finally get onto an adultswim show, since he's been a fan for years. And his contribution to Shrek Retold is unironically the funniest he's ever been to me.
 

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Could a halfway house work? Or would Chris be out of place in a house full of other convicts? (not like he isn't out of place, to begin with) Ik Virginia is full of these things, but i must be missing some legal jargon or just how they work in general. I know the judge has stated keeping him there for the betterment of basically everyone in and out of jail. I guess if they can't find a place for him he better be real nice to his cellmate.
Chris's behavior is probably going to be a huge issue. Remember, he's banned from interacting with other inmate at the jail, in addition to being banned from the rec area for some reason. Most likely because Chris has never been around "rough" people that weren't on the internet, that have no issues egging him on, especially if he starts to throw a tantrum. That's going to make it very difficult for wherever he goes, especially if he has to be around other slow-in-the-minds.
 
A tard home would be best for Chris, but he wouldn't like that part of his tugboat would be used for room and board. Not that it matters anyway since Chris has gotten used to atrocious spending habits, and just as the tugboat dries up, he e-begs for more. Chris' days on the net will be over as well, since the home won't let him, or will at the very least, monitor his cell/internet usage.
The question is which he likes less: that situation or the streets. Unless some magical person can tolerate Chris sleeping on their couch or guest bedroom, he doesn’t have a lot of options.

Chris's behavior is probably going to be a huge issue. Remember, he's banned from interacting with other inmate at the jail, in addition to being banned from the rec area for some reason. Most likely because Chris has never been around "rough" people that weren't on the internet, that have no issues egging him on, especially if he starts to throw a tantrum.
Keeping him separate is possibly for his own safety. He’s reetarded, he claims to be trans, and he assaulted his mother.

But yeah, there are worse behaved people out there, but he’s bad enough to be a problem.
 
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Could a halfway house work?
Probably not. There are 3 different halfway houses in Charlottesville area:
Oxford Houses are for recovering alcoholics and drug addicts.
Georgia's House is pretty much the same thing, but for women only (must have XX chromosomes).
The last one and the only one Chris might have qualified for is Piedmont House. He won't get in because, Piedmont House accepts only nonviolent, non gang affiliated, male felons who are in relatively good health and have no record of sex crimes.
It's unsure if Chris Chan will or won't be charged with a felony at some point (unlikely IMHO) and even if he was charged with a felony, it would be of the sex crime variety. His best bet is some sort of a group home for the intellectually disabled or an adult foster care type of situation. Most halfway and 3/4 houses are for recovering addicts.
 
it does not take years of knowing him just to know that he isn't capable of that.

Capable or not, he simply cannot be bothered.


In Virginia, the court has to set him up somewhere within 30 days of his release

If I read the law correctly, the court has to try to find somewhere for him for 30 days, after which they can wash their hands of him and toss him out onto the streets. BUT if the court does that, it will only be a matter of hours before Chris fucks up again and lands right back in the court's lap. The court does NOT want to have to deal with Chris again. Who would?

Finding somewhere to chuck him is difficult.

I suspect these "mental evaluations" are actually placement interviews, and it looks like Chris has failed all of them. That or they have found a place for him, but a bed won't be opening up there for months, so they gave themselves a nice, long continuance while they wait.

Either way, Chris is not going back to 14BLC or Barb. If the courts don't make sure of that, Tom and Harriet certainly will.


Could a halfway house work?

Chris needs more management than that.


The question is which he likes less: that situation or the streets.

It will probably take a few trials for him to work this out. I expect Chris will collect more and more "Judases" (Judi?) like @Null as various people try to step in and help him before realizing that's an impossible waste of time. They should make t-shirts: "I tried to save Chris from himself, and all I got was this lousy shirt."
 
If I read the law correctly, the court has to try to find somewhere for him for 30 days, after which they can wash their hands of him and toss him out onto the streets. BUT if the court does that, it will only be a matter of hours before Chris fucks up again and lands right back in the court's lap. The court does NOT want to have to deal with Chris again. Who would?
It's unfortunate that the law has to deal with the Chandlers at every turn. From Bob's failed lawsuit with Nathaniel Greene Elementary to Chris' many fuck ups. If Chris was raised by competent parents, he would've learned to respect the law. It seems the law passed by the Chandlers as time went by.
 
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If I read the law correctly, the court has to try to find somewhere for him for 30 days, after which they can wash their hands of him and toss him out onto the streets. BUT if the court does that, it will only be a matter of hours before Chris fucks up again and lands right back in the court's lap. The court does NOT want to have to deal with Chris again. Who would?

The way it's worded, it has to be set up in such a way that he is in a position to continue to receive services even after 30 days. So they can't just pay for a month in a motel room and call it good when he's kicked out for nonpayment on day 31 -- it has to be something that can be continued indefinitely.

They only have to manage/guarantee it for 30 days though. After that it's no longer the court's responsibility and becomes the problem of whatever organization they left Chris in the care of, so Chris is then free to fuck it up. Chris of course will always fuck up, but if the setup is well-designed enough, Chris' laziness will possibly keep him from completely fucking it up.
 
but a bed won't be opening up there for months, so they gave themselves a nice, long continuance while they wait.

Either way, Chris is not going back to 14BLC or Barb. If the courts don't make sure of that, Tom and Harriet certainly will.
his new continuance is until july right? isn't that like a month before he ended up in jail? he went to jail in august or september at some point. so he'd sit in jail for almost a year up to that point.
 
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It'll be funny witnessing Chris trying to get back into 14 blc after the effort Harriet and Tom took to take care of Barb and the house. They'd be rightfully pissed by Chris coming back and dismantling everything, so I'm hoping that they'll stop him from coming in, giving him a box of whatever toys he has left and pointing him in the opposite direction.
I imagine it'd go a little something like this.
 
his new continuance is until july right? isn't that like a month before he ended up in jail? he went to jail in august or september at some point. so he'd sit in jail for almost a year up to that point.

Yes, and I think that it's pretty apparent that this is the plan. There's no explanation for having a 6 month gap between hearings except as a way to give Chris a full year served in jail. The prosecutor and judge could object to such a needlessly long delay if they wanted to get the conviction over and done with.

My best guess is that they need the tugboat money for some reason. Maybe Barb needs it for the house, or they need it saved up for a year to get Chris a good start on placement somewhere. By leaving him not convicted, he can still get the tugboat money. If they convict him now and then release him 6 months later, that will be 6 months of the tugboat not coming in. Whatever it is, it's something that both the defense and prosecution believe will give a better outcome for Chris and for Greene County, respectively.
 
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