Containment Random Thoughts & Questions

[Cockadoodle85]

Obviously no one here wants to be a ween, but if you had to troll Chris how would you do it? I would "troll" him by gently approaching him and trying to encourage him to at least be aware of his own needs and stop living like a nutcase. I would try to show him the proper example of a human being, by being one.

But I guess that wouldn't work, so I wouldn't engage him and would let him live his weird life. I mean it's sad. After following this guy's life (I first heard about him in 2013 I think and started reading/watching heavily in 2016 then dropped my Chris obsession and picked it back up with the mother fucker saga) for so long I have developed a little sympathy for him.

Trying to fix Chris is like trying to make powdered water: you can't! After following his story for so long I realize that. At first it was all a joke to me but now I see the true horror of Christory: if you follow it for years it ceases to be a farce and you begin to wonder, if only out of practicality: Can this guy be repaired? And the answer is no. What is broken can't be made whole again. What was learned can't be unlearned.

Truly, when you stare into CWCville, CWCville stares into you.

"I can chage him"

 

[Muu]

I would pretend I was selling sonichu nfts and making millions but Chris is too deranged to troll, every troll attempt would be brushed off as "I foresaw thou that ect ect"

Obviously no one here wants to be a ween, but if you had to troll Chris how would you do it? I would "troll" him by gently approaching him and trying to encourage him to at least be aware of his own needs and stop living like a nutcase.

What are you guys waiting on happening?

I feel lie he's going to be freed in the next 365 days and he'll be back online.

I thought that but then he's gone off radar to a unknown location and he doesn't have a home anymore so no internet.

 

[thegooddoctor]

Maybe Bob (he does have actual successful children), but I can't see Barb saying "I love you" to anyone and meaning it in a genuine familial way.

Yeah it’s so sad, I honestly wonder why she ever decided to have children in the First place, she was such an awful mother to Cole and clearly had little no care for him other than unconditional love. It makes me wonder, maybe at first she tried to be a caring and kind mother, but something happened to her or she suddenly became mentally ill which turned here into the bitch we knew from than on? Is it possible she maybe had a child to save a failing marriage and just didn’t want to be alone.

 

[Ophelia]

Obviously no one here wants to be a ween, but if you had to troll Chris how would you do it?

I’d get him into a group tard home with limited monitored internet, chore assignments (in exchange for snack food; he’d get basic meals), and once a week supervised visits to a grocery store, McDonalds, or library for good behavior. Paid for by his tugboat.

It wouldn’t make him better. It would prevent him from harming anyone or being harmed while making him annoyed.

I would "troll" him by gently approaching him and trying to encourage him to at least be aware of his own needs and stop living like a nutcase. I would try to show him the proper example of a human being, by being one.

That’s a good plan for living life in general. Even if it doesn’t help jerks like Chris (Chris wouldn’t get it), it’s just a good way to be.

I have developed a little sympathy for him.

My sympathy evaporated last summer.

but something happened to her or she suddenly became mentally ill which turned here into the bitch we knew from than on?

It seems like she was always a bitch. Her family didn’t like her and Cole got out as soon as he could.

Is it possible she maybe had a child to save a failing marriage and just didn’t want to be alone.

That seems likely. She wanted someone taking care of her.

 

[Gfkldsl]

So where is chris now? I saw he was transferred to another facility right, so what does that mean? Has anyone found out where he went?

 

[Pickle Inspector]

So where is chris now? I saw he was transferred to another facility right, so what does that mean? Has anyone found out where he went?

From what I understand the popular opinion is he’s currently at a mental health facility because he’s been declared not fit to stand trial and will remain there until he is.

It’s possible he tried to self harm or otherwise acted suicidally but that seems out of character for Chris.

 

[I am vomit]

It’s possible he tried to self harm or otherwise acted suicidally but that seems out of character for Chris.

I disagree, he's hurt himself a lot of times stupidly. He probably did something stupid AGAIN, not as bad as the taint cutting incident but something bad enough that he was labelled unsafe to himself and others. Though it's probably just his ability to stand trial. That's what my theory is.

 

[AnOminous]

"If somebody pisses me off enough, I'm gonna beat the shit out of that person." would not be criminal. "Clyde Cash, I am going to beat the shit out of you." would be a threat, and illegal.

The context also has a lot to do with it. For instance, this case, while not of particularly important precedential value, is a case where even fairly extreme and explicit threats can be considered not true threats:

A terroristic threats sentence was vacated for lack of the required intent in Commonwealth v Kidd (1982) 296 Pa Super 393, 442 A2d 826, where the accused was arrested for public drunkenness outside a tavern and fell in the street receiving a cut over his eye. The arresting officers took him to the local hospital for treatment, handcuffing his hands behind his back. While in the hospital, he repeatedly shouted obscenities and generally screamed and shouted at the officers, and when in the emergency room, he told the police that he was going to kill them, machine gun them, if given a chance. The court said that the accused's present ability to inflict harm was not an element of the offense. However, it said that there was insufficient evidence that the accused intended to place the officers in a state of fear agitating body and mind. Rather, the court said, he was inebriated and angry, and his conduct expressed transitory anger rather than a settled purpose to carry out the threat or to terrorize the officers.

https://archive.ph/wip/6u1tl

Now, drunkenness is not usually considered a defense to a crime, but the rare exception is when it actually negates an element of the offense that requires a particular state of mind.

Also, context could be why something actually is a true threat despite seeming mild. For instance, suppose Bob makes the finger gun gesture at Carl. This ordinarily wouldn't be a threat but suppose Bob is a loan shark and Carl owes him lots of money. The message could hardly be clearer.

 

[Strange Wilderness]

Obviously no one here wants to be a ween, but if you had to troll Chris how would you do it? I would "troll" him by gently approaching him and trying to encourage him to at least be aware of his own needs and stop living like a nutcase. I would try to show him the proper example of a human being, by being one.

Be more like Clyde or Liquid where I'm some outlandish character straight out of fiction and get Chris to act like a fool on camera thinking I'm his mortal enemy because he has no idea that mysterious nemesis's trying to ruin your life or evil twins trying to steal your identity don't exist in the real world. Give Chris a chance to act like the hero of his story and make ridiculous videos where he tries to show how much better he is in a cartoonish fashion. Just mess with him a little not actually try and hurt him or help him because that is impossible.

It seems like she was always a bitch. Her family didn’t like her and Cole got out as soon as he could.

The only people who ever voluntarily stayed with Barb were an elderly man estranged from his family, and a mentally retarded son she molded into being obsessed with her, in more ways than one. Maybe the hoard was Barb making up for an empty life devoid of any real familial love? Garbage couldn't get up and walk away it had to put up with her bitchy personality.

The context also has a lot to do with it. For instance, this case, while not of particularly important precedential value, is a case where even fairly extreme and explicit threats can be considered not true threats:

https://archive.ph/wip/6u1tl

Now, drunkenness is not usually considered a defense to a crime, but the rare exception is when it actually negates an element of the offense that requires a particular state of mind.

Also, context could be why something actually is a true threat despite seeming mild. For instance, suppose Bob makes the finger gun gesture at Carl. This ordinarily wouldn't be a threat but suppose Bob is a loan shark and Carl owes him lots of money. The message could hardly be clearer.

So if context is important would Chris's various threats to the trolls where he visibly threatened them be considered a crime? He threatened to strangle that Clyde Cash and made a strangulation gesture with his hands, threatened to go to peoples houses and beat them up, and pulled out weapons on video because he and the trolls were fighting over girlfriends and property. Stuff that people really do threaten violence or kill each other over in the real world. I know it was all a big joke and none of the people Chris was threatening to kill really existed but could say Liquid go to the cops over the Gun Comic and say "me and this guy are fighting online over my girlfriend and I think this comic is a legitimate threat against me" and the jerkops would arrest Chris? Could you even prosecute someone for making death threats to a fictional character played by an actor?

 

[Disgruntled Pupper]

I was reflecting today on how this is probably the last (unless he gets arrested and sent for mental evaluation again lol) period of time in Chris' life where anything he comes up with will be genuine and 100% him and not have influence from some retarded ween who's trying to be the next Clyde or Idea Guys. I highly doubt the facility is letting him make comics right now, and depending on what they have him on there's probably not a whole thought of thought or fantasy making it through the haze of medication. But when he gets out and starts babbling about some new imaginary friend or how Sonichu went on an expedition to Antarctica, or if he creates anything in relation to this period of time, for the first time in years it will be just Chris' ideas and interpretations of the world and no one else's'. Gives me feels bros.

 

[Ophelia]

I highly doubt the facility is letting him make comics right now,

I wouldn’t be so doubtful. Art is often encouraged as therapeutic or at least a way to pass the time. I don’t get the sense Chris has wanted to draw the comic for a long time, but he could very well be drawing something.

 

[RainwaterDrop]

What are you guys waiting on happening?

I feel like he's going to be freed in the next 365 days and he'll be back online. Nothing to back it up, just not a lot of hope in the justice system.

Chris is entertaining. Might not be a good person, but at his best he is unintentionally hilarious and at his worst you can reflect a lot on how he turned out like he did. Besides, it's one of the most relevant cases regarding lolcows, people follow his life very closely and wanting more content about him is only natural!

I wouldn’t be so doubtful. Art is often encouraged as therapeutic or at least a way to pass the time. I don’t get the sense Chris has wanted to draw the comic for a long time, but he could very well be drawing something.

He was in jail for months on end, having fuckall to do other than read and send letters and imaginate his stuff with Sonichu. Just like a cheap burger tastes like gourmet eating after fasting, having some crayons and a piece of paper after months with little to do is something that Chris is probably really enjoying, if not the comic there will probably be some artwork from him!

 

[Kosher Dill]

I wouldn’t be so doubtful. Art is often encouraged as therapeutic or at least a way to pass the time. I don’t get the sense Chris has wanted to draw the comic for a long time, but he could very well be drawing something.

He's never drawing the comic again, if we see more art from him it's just going to be stuff like those billions of pony game cards he made.

 

[AnOminous]

So if context is important would Chris's various threats to the trolls where he visibly threatened them be considered a crime? He threatened to strangle that Clyde Cash and made a strangulation gesture with his hands, threatened to go to peoples houses and beat them up, and pulled out weapons on video because he and the trolls were fighting over girlfriends and property.

"True threats" have to be intended to frighten or intimidate someone. If Chris even intended that, he was still threatening someone who didn't even exist, and he had no idea where the troll playing him even was, and probably no way to get there if he did, and nothing to do if he could.

I wouldn't say no cop in the world would see that, out of context, and look into it, but it's a weak case. Generally, the threat has to be such that a reasonable person would fear it, but that is essentially a negligence standard, not sufficient to defeat a reasonable doubt. (There's a case called Elonis about this).

It's a rather broad area and federal circuits and states have approached it differently.

The example I gave from Pennsylvania about the drunk guy in the back of a police car ranting and making repeated violent threats against the officers is at the extreme example of what you can get away with (and people have actually been convicted for less).

 

[Strange Wilderness]

"True threats" have to be intended to frighten or intimidate someone. If Chris even intended that, he was still threatening someone who didn't even exist, and he had no idea where the troll playing him even was, and probably no way to get there if he did, and nothing to do if he could.

I wouldn't say no cop in the world would see that, out of context, and look into it, but it's a weak case. Generally, the threat has to be such that a reasonable person would fear it, but that is essentially a negligence standard, not sufficient to defeat a reasonable doubt. (There's a case called Elonis about this).

It's a rather broad area and federal circuits and states have approached it differently.

The example I gave from Pennsylvania about the drunk guy in the back of a police car ranting and making repeated violent threats against the officers is at the extreme example of what you can get away with (and people have actually been convicted for less).

So hypothetically I could post a video of myself shooting a picture of your avatar and threatening to kill you, but because I have no idea who you are IRL and no realistic way to track you down, the worst that would happen would be a visit from the cops telling me to stop posting videos of me shooting pictures of John Goodman since any threat I made toward you would be empty and foolish? It wouldn't be a "true threat" because I would be raging at a username who uses an actor as his avatar and had no realistic way of actually carrying out my death threats?

If Chris had access to guns then could he be considered a threat to certain trolls such as Marvin, Casey, or Kim because he met them IRL, saw their faces, and could be a potential threat? Obviously if Chris threatened to beat up the Man in the Pickle Suit it would be an empty threat because he's a fat clumsy weakling, or shoot Clyde Cash because Clyde was a fictional character and Chris would never be able to figure out his real identity, but if Chris had a shotgun and made a video waving his gun around saying he knew who the Man in the Pickle Suit was and he was going to make him pay for ruining his life, could Marvin go to the police and get Chris arrested because Chris had seen his face and could potentially cary out his revenge plans?

 

[AnOminous]

It wouldn't be a "true threat" because I would be raging at a username who uses an actor as his avatar and had no realistic way of actually carrying out my death threats?

It's possible such a threat is credible, but I doubt Chris's threats would qualify. Usually. He was somewhat menacing to Mary Lee Walsh, and that was in the real world. He was touchy-feely with Megan, and posting crudely drawn porn of her saying he did it so he wouldn't rape her was. . .sketchy as hell. He obviously actually did commit vehicular assault on Michael Snyder.

I think anyone who has spent enough time on the Internet deliberately annoying people has got the occasional death threat here and there but I can't imagine actually calling the cops over it without it being seriously credible. IMO if I'm the target of it and couldn't give less of a shit, why should the cops?

If Chris had access to guns then could he be considered a threat to certain trolls such as Marvin, Casey, or Kim because he met them IRL, saw their faces, and could be a potential threat? Obviously if Chris threatened to beat up the Man in the Pickle Suit it would be an empty threat because he's a fat clumsy weakling, or shoot Clyde Cash because Clyde was a fictional character and Chris would never be able to figure out his real identity, but if Chris had a shotgun and made a video waving his gun around saying he knew who the Man in the Pickle Suit was and he was going to make him pay for ruining his life, could Marvin go to the police and get Chris arrested because Chris had seen his face and could potentially cary out his revenge plans?

Probably, because cops usually take threats involving guns seriously. Whether he'd be ultimately prosecuted or convicted would be highly fact-dependent. The fact that nobody appeared actually intimidated by his bullshit in the least would be contextual. It isn't, strictly speaking, necessary that you actually successfully intimidated or frightened the person. Just the fact you try and fail to scare someone because they're particularly brave doesn't make you not guilty.

However, the fact that an entire community of people messed with him continually in spite of his "threats" really inclines me to think they aren't "true threats" at all in the legal sense, or at least the more famous ones aren't. A funny one would be when he threatened that black guy in The GAMe PLACe and then instantly backed down.

"Chris also once argued with a huge black guy named TJ while playing Yu-Gi-Oh. When they started talking about how Chris would never get laid, Chris yelled, 'I'm going to smack your effing face down!' As TJ stood up like he was going to beat Chris's ass, Chris shrunk and whimpered 'I mean your face down monster....'"

 

[Ophelia]

if not the comic there will probably be some artwork from him!

If he gets to keep it.

He's never drawing the comic again, if we see more art from him it's just going to be stuff like those billions of pony game cards he made.

We used to say that circa 2016, then he started up again. It’s Idea Guys bullshit, but it shows that Chris can potentially come back to it, even after a long break. Though I think you may be right this time. His heart hasn’t been in it.

 

[DirgeXenos]

What's the drama with Burn Book? Why is Spooky Bones no longer an admin, and do they have any connection to the watchmen or praetor?

 

[Flavius Anthemius]

Why is Spooky Bones no longer an admin

In short

Because she was a massive faggot, got in hot water with framing other forum users for trolling via gay ops and made some alt accounts to back herself up.

Null banned her ass.

If you want to read more, look here -> https://kiwifarms.net/threads/can-someone-explain-the-spooky-bones-situation.105554/

 

[185405]

Do you think that theres a dimension where Chris never uploaded another videl after Rollin and Trollin and what would the Chris from that reality say about the Chris from this dimension?