Containment Random Thoughts & Questions

[TayandYou]

If Chris is allowed to send letters, it's possible he is sending letters to people who he knows will respect his wishes not to have those letters posted online. We have letters on the CWCki that Chris did not want shared. Kengle, for example, would share things that Chris didn't want posted online.

Either that or the rest of the people he's writing to are weens/trolls who don't want their ongoing gayop disrupted by word of what they're up to getting out.

On that note, could it be possible that the art of Chris talking to himself is inspired by weens writing to him pretending to be 2006 Chris?

Yes he did. At least he’s had guys he played pokemon with.

Don't forget his Dungeon and Dragons friends. He made several female friends at the gay club too.

Chris has had more friends than many people realize. Wasn't there a quote from Marvin that some of the CWCki and other public Chris information had been carefully curated to present an image of Chris that's the most funny to read at the expense of some of the facts? Things like Chris volunteering (at the animal shelter if I recall correctly) and socializing IRL are often downplayed or glossed over in order to paint Chris as even more dysfunctional than he is. Or at least how he was before the Idea Guys, post Idea-Guys he actually became pretty dysfunctional.

 

[Kyuss]

Do we?

Neurodivergent doesn't equate to lack of intelligence, at-least in principle it shouldn't. In the case of Chris no he has had the capacity to understand concepts that put him clearly outside disability due to IQ (sub 71). He could be in the sub-optimal category, as plenty in this range do hold jobs, finish college, etc.

I don't think anyone in the Pokemon Leagues actually considered him a friend. Alternative argument CHRIS did not consider them worth while enough to continue a friendship with them.
And correct me if I am wrong, but while he did start going to the gay bars and the like and that would seem probably a more positive experience. I can't recall a single friend he actually made in any of these outings. All I remember were people subtly filming him just to keep the memes flowing or outright trolls.

 

[TayandYou]

And correct me if I am wrong, but while he did start going to the gay bars and the like and that would seem probably a more positive experience. I can't recall a single friend he actually made in any of these outings. All I remember were people subtly filming him just to keep the memes flowing or outright trolls.

The people filming him reported that there were several groups of women which he seemed friendly with and the people at the club seemed to acknowledge him as a regular with the MC knowing him by name and stuff. By all accounts he seemed well liked there.

He was also generally well behaved during most of his convention outings too, on several of them he was accompanied by friends that he met online earlier or at the convention. Everyone only remembers the hedgehog defensive posture events but not the other times when's he's acting relatively normal and not doing anything particularly interesting.

 

[Jon Osterman]

I don't think anyone in the Pokemon Leagues actually considered him a friend. Alternative argument CHRIS did not consider them worth while enough to continue a friendship with them.

Iirc you're actually right, Chris ditched his real life Pokemon league friends to get closer to his imaginary ones because that's the type of retard we're dealing with (he even complains later on that he basically has no real friends and wants a human sweetheart fucking hell he's an idiot).

I can't recall a single friend he actually made in any of these outings. All I remember were people subtly filming him just to keep the memes flowing or outright trolls.

Why would you be able to? They weren't important to Christory so they were never looked into. It's like saying he didn't go to high school because we don't know any of his teachers.

 

[Kyuss]

not doing anything particularly interesting.

Okay that's starting to sound familiar. Shame he didn't develop a stronger bond while he had the chance with the gay grouping. I really had my fingers crossed that he would of developed some sort of lasting bond there, but he seemed to just stop going didn't he?

Why would you be able to?

Fair, projection on my part I secede on that point.

Chris ditched his real life Pokemon league friends

and see this is where I do bring up a point.
With Chris' hatred of men and with no real close male friendships in early Christory. That he was part of the Pokemon League simply because he perceived it as a position of power. His autism also draws him strongly to the hobby. What of the speculation that he never actually enjoyed the people there at all? Just going through the social motions made him happy as long as he got to do what he wanted.
How much of this actually made him hate men even further, losing game after game. Heck losing to kids constantly.
I still can't find a citation of a single male friend he had in the early days. Though as we know Chris tends to hyperfocus on what is in front of him at the moment.

 

[TayandYou]

Okay that's starting to sound familiar. Shame he didn't develop a stronger bond while he had the chance with the gay grouping. I really had my fingers crossed that he would of developed some sort of lasting bond there, but he seemed to just stop going didn't he?

Yeah, I'm not sure why he stopped going. As far as I know he was never banned from that club.

I still can't find a citation of a single male friend he had in the early days. Though as we know Chris tends to hyperfocus on what is in front of him at the moment.

Joshua Martinez? Before he turned into a troll he and Chris were friends, they met at speech therapy as kids.

 

[Kyuss]

Joshua Martinez?

Technically gotta allow it.
Falls into the age old "we were friends in pre-school/elementary, but now vastly different and I'mma bully you" trope.
It's friends in only the sense that innocence can bring about.
Let's bring the scope a little more to junior-high/highschool. I think Chris probably did have at-least a few people (male) that would of been his friend either in school or in hobby place activities. Chris probably just didn't reciprocate it the friendship didn't build into something that would last into adulthood. In his late teens/early 20s I can't think of a male friend discussed that was really his friend.

 

[Hopkinsville Goblin]

The Schulz collection has now been listed on Etsy. It all dates to November 26, 2022.

 

[Ophelia]

Chris claimed he hated all men because they took the pretty girls away from him. That leads me to think he didn’t go into mister misandry mode until college? And I don’t get the sense it lasted.

As someone eloquently put in the What If thread, if something isn’t totally perfect, Chris has a tendency to reject it. He could have a totally decent relationship with a guy, but since it doesn’t fit some idealized version of friendship bouncing around in his head, he wouldn’t consider it true and honest friendship(tm).

I tend to think Chris’s lack of empathy prevents him from being A Friend, but he wasn’t totally isolated in his house, a poor widdle friendless lonely boy.

Neurodivergent doesn't equate to lack of intelligence, at-least in principle it shouldn't.

No, but some people are on the spectrum and also just really dumb. Chris isn’t the dumbest, but he is not a smart cookie either. That’s on top of the autism.

He could be in the sub-optimal category, as plenty in this range do hold jobs, finish college, etc.

He failed at the former. Looking at his work, it’s amazing that he made it through the latter. He seems to be at sorting glass levels.

 

[TayandYou]

Technically gotta allow it.
Falls into the age old "we were friends in pre-school/elementary, but now vastly different and I'mma bully you" trope.
It's friends in only the sense that innocence can bring about.
Let's bring the scope a little more to junior-high/highschool. I think Chris probably did have at-least a few people (male) that would of been his friend either in school or in hobby place activities. Chris probably just didn't reciprocate it the friendship didn't build into something that would last into adulthood. In his late teens/early 20s I can't think of a male friend discussed that was really his friend.

During that period, probably not many. But Chris disliking the dang dirty males is pretty foundational to classic Chris. I do remember him having one male friend in highschool though, in drawings he depicted him as some pimple-faced freak but in reality he was a decent looking dude. Let me see if I can find a source.

Found it. They seemed to have been somewhat close, close enough that Joseph confided in Chris about his relationship troubles. By most accounts it seem that he got along okay with the rest of the basketball team too, although I don't think they were as close.

After he went tomgirl he did have some seemingly genuine male friends, mostly online but also some that lived close by or accompanied him to conventions.

 

[Nikes_JustDoIt]

Chris claimed he hated all men because they took the pretty girls away from him. That leads me to think he didn’t go into mister misandry mode until college? And I don’t get the sense it lasted.

I could be wrong, but I think he might have had that in high school, with his gal pals having bfs and the bullying from the other male students. You can tell just having friends that are girls than having some friends that are guys.

 

[BScCollateral]

No, but some people are on the spectrum and also just really dumb. Chris isn’t the dumbest, but he is not a smart cookie either. That’s on top of the autism.

IIRC, Chris spent $6000 or so of his scant funds to protect CWCVille from a moon laser. Anyone who believes moon lasers are an immediate threat fails the great IQ test known as life. So I'm going to say both neurodivergent, and dumb.

 

[Tennis-Ball-Tony]

Don't forget his Dungeon and Dragons friends. He made several female friends at the gay club too.

Chris has had more friends than many people realize. Wasn't there a quote from Marvin that some of the CWCki and other public Chris information had been carefully curated to present an image of Chris that's the most funny to read at the expense of some of the facts? Things like Chris volunteering (at the animal shelter if I recall correctly) and socializing IRL are often downplayed or glossed over in order to paint Chris as even more dysfunctional than he is. Or at least how he was before the Idea Guys, post Idea-Guys he actually became pretty dysfunctional.

There's a huge distinction between "friends" and someone Chris talked to or played games with a handful of times. Yes, there were people that interacted with Chris without recoiling in disgust, or trying to troll him, but at the end of the day, they all disappeared like farts in the wind when Chris would get banned from somewhere. They weren't people Chris was hanging out with outside of those places.

And like the gay club, as soon as whatever incident happened where Chris stopped going, so did those people stop interacting with Chris. Same thing with his card games and D&D. Chris didn't have anyone that would play with him after his banning from The End Games. As far as his D&D playing went, it culminated in Chris "not understanding the dungeon master rules", wanting people to play with (no one did), and Chris coming up with a complete over the top, overpowered character that would have been nothing but him being god in the game. No one wants to play with a character like that, especially since Chris couldn't keep his merge bullshit out of the game.

During that period, probably not many. But Chris disliking the dang dirty males is pretty foundational to classic Chris. I do remember him having one male friend in highschool though, in drawings he depicted him as some pimple-faced freak but in reality he was a decent looking dude. Let me see if I can find a source.

From what Chris stated, his male "friend" in high school was just some guy who was in the same job position on the team that Chris was, who by all accounts, just made small talk with Chris. But since he didn't recoil in horror just straight up ignore Chris, he was made into some sort "friend".

A better example would be Chris & The Waitress that one time, where some waitress was really nice to Chris taking his order, and Chris went all Sonichu on her and believed that was the start of something, rather than someone doing their job and being nice.

Spoiler: Caitlin

I just went out to Golden Corall with my father; mom stayed home, because she didn't feel well. Anyway, I've made a new gal-pal today; the server who served me and my father. She was cute. Her name is Caitlin. Eventually, she commented on the Family Guy episode I was playing on my PSP, I introduced myself to her and there was a peaceful spark. I left her a note on a napkin talking about Sonichu.net, that I'd like to be friends with her, and my phone number. I noted my being "internet famous", and mentioned sonichu.net, then listed my phone number in inquisition of being friends...
If I'm there again, I'll make a note to talk to her again, or ask about her among the staff; my family and I personally know a couple of other female staff members (both older and taken).

 

[Phalanges Mycologist]

Yeah, I'm not sure why he stopped going. As far as I know he was never banned from that club.

That's one of the few great unresolved mysteries of Christory what happened at Impulse that lead to him stopping going, He hasn't mentioned getting in trouble there, he hasn't talked about going back, but it's exactly the sort of place he could have caused trouble in Booze, Sexually charged enviroment etc.

My personal theory is he just got bored that he wasn't getting any hot lesbian scissoring action and just faded away with maybe some small passing incidents making him less welcome but not enough to be kicked out.

 

[Tennis-Ball-Tony]

My personal theory is he just got bored that he wasn't getting any hot lesbian scissoring action and just faded away with maybe some small passing incidents making him less welcome but not enough to be kicked out.

Oh I think it was from Chris getting really handsy with people. This was pre-Too Many Games incident by about 3 years, and from pictures of Chris at the club, he wasn't shy about grabbing people for hugs and smooshing his incredible bulk up against the other belly dancers during those lessons. Then there was the harassment of college aged lesbians that Chris immediately got attracted to. I firmly believe that he was booted out but couldn't whine about "discrimination" from other lesbians or drag queens because it just wouldn't fit into his current trans nonsense. People who saw him there said he was extremely happy with the whole thing, and from his convention assaults, when Chris gets excited about something, he doesn't think and believes everyone are his friends so he can get away with grabbing and such.

Another point to the make is after the Impulse thing, Chris never did another pride even in Charlottesville or anywhere else. Chris was hanging around various pride events during the same time he was going to Impulse, some events with most likely the same drag queens at Impulse, which probably indicates they knew about some antics he did and Chris didn't want to be around them because of that. Hence, why his public faggotry was completely shut down. I doubt Chris had gotten bored with hanging out with his favorite crossdressers or college aged lesbians, since the latter are the victims he preferably would like to seek out.

 

[Hogar Grupal]

He failed at the former. Looking at his work, it’s amazing that he made it through the latter. He seems to be at sorting glass levels.

If it wasn't for his dad 'helping' him through college, Chris would be sorting glass. Although Chris did graduate, he didn't do a damned thing with his degree (technically certificate). So, really, you can scrub Chris' entire college years, and things still would've been the same.

 

[Jon Osterman]

As far as his D&D playing went, it culminated in Chris "not understanding the dungeon master rules", wanting people to play with (no one did)

Maybe you have more information than me, but it seemed Chris stopped going to DND because he started in February 2020 just before the lockdown, so that stopped him. By the time the group he found restarted their sessions, he'd probably forgotten about DND entirely.

he didn't do a damned thing with his degree

Hey that's not true, he made the floor plan for the Cwcville mall and his office.

 

[Hogar Grupal]

IIRC, Chris spent $6000 or so of his scant funds to protect CWCVille from a moon laser. Anyone who believes moon lasers are an immediate threat fails the great IQ test known as life. So I'm going to say both neurodivergent, and dumb.

I still think to myself how did Chris have 6K saved up. Usually, when money comes his way, Chris spends it just as it hits his bank account. Unless there was extra money just for him from Bob's inheritance that wasn't spent on Rob Bell by Barb in that joke of a defense against Snyder.

If Chris didn't do the dirty deed with/to Barb, that 5K from Null's GoFundMe would've rapidly depleted because it's fucking Chris.

Hey that's not true, he made the floor plan for the Cwcville mall and his office.

I'll give you that, somewhat. I meant professionally. Even Chris' floorplans for his own city and office were as misshapen as his usual drawing style. He never did another floorplan again.

 

[Tennis-Ball-Tony]

Maybe you have more information than me, but it seemed Chris stopped going to DND because he started in February 2020 just before the lockdown, so that stopped him. By the time the group he found restarted their sessions, he'd probably forgotten about DND entirely.

I had always taken that tweet to be part of Chris "sticking it" to The End Games for banning him. Chris had concocted a scheme to weasel his way back into the store by claiming to want to learn to play D&D. He may have gotten into it, but I highly doubt he found his way into some secret local group of D&D players that somehow brought him into an adventure, and let him merge a character into his Mary Sue, completely bonkers powerful one he came up with.

Even during the pandemic, there were groups that would do D&D over webcams and group chats, something Chris could have easily done, but it just ended right there. After the last spite line of the tweet, trying to make it out to be that The End Games just lost the Goddess of Ruckersville and oh woe is them because Chris found a better group so he didn't need The End anymore.

 

[BScCollateral]

I still think to myself how did Chris have 6K saved up.

My understanding is it was over a period of time, and I believe this was before the vehicular assault.