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ToroidalBoat said:
Even if it defies natural human instinct of attraction to human?
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Unironically yes.

Its morbid but basically how it works is sexual attraction in the mind isn't quite entirely as simple as people act like it is. Take, say, female manikins (like the ones in stores). If you are a straight guy, and you see them, especially dressed up, you might have a bit of a feeling, because its sending signals to the brain of "this ass is feminine shaped, feminine legs" ect While your mind is also saying "no, you fucking retard, its a hunk of plastic". However if someone gave into the attraction DESPITE knowing its plastic, and got themselves off, yeah, they'd probably get REALLY into manikins after, because then its not JUST that the manikins set off a false alarm, they now developed an associative experience of manikin = pleasure. Which increases the desire to do so in the future. (unless self disgust / shame counter balances this)

Same applies to the hedgehog, a normal person might see the porn, get mixed signals, ultimately reject it, and be like "why does that hedgehog have a pussy? what is this dumb shit?". But people like chris who are obsessed or just weak willed, will give in and "partake" in it, which only reinforces this feeling.

This is unironically how sexual attraction works. Proof of this is very visible if you ever saw 4chan idiots talking about how they started looking at traps, and became gay, same principle, going from conflicted feelings, to accepting, to preferring, all because giving in reinforces it.

Just so happens NORMAL people have restraint and keep themselves from doing weird shit. But we all know chris isn't normal.
ToroidalBoat said:
internet was usually dialup. I doubt Sonic porn was really a thing then.
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I think back then he was actually better off, and might of had better internet? His dad did take care of them enough to have the house at least....financially took care at least, so I bet they could of afforded great internet when it was crazy expensive. So I could see him bumping into sonic porn somehow.

if not, idk....Autism.
 
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ToroidalBoat said:
"Honor Roll" was already 18 in 2000, back when internet access was often still dialup. I doubt Sonic porn was really a thing then. Then again, the incestuous freak is like a little kid with sex drive (which is very disturbing). Not to mention he's very autistic. So any Sonic porn he saw later in the '00s still could've left a big impression.
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Maybe I'm not looking in the right places but I can't find much mention of Sonic porn in 2000. I'm sure it was around though. By 2000 there had been plenty of TV shows and comics and stuff, and the characters look like they were designed to be easy for fans to draw, so I can definitely see people at least drawing Sally Acorn or Amy Rose.

There was other hentai available, I recall using a site called Plasticman around then to download SNES roms, and he opened up a new section of his website for hentai. I didn't know what it was at the time but eventually I clicked on it and it was blurry scans of hentai. Plasticman also had a recipe for very spicy pickles on his website. The Internet was more fun back then.

Pokémon porn was definitely on the Internet. Now it's even got a Wikipedia article complete with Gardevoir in a French maid outfit. In 1999 there was a court case in Japan where a doujinshi author was prosecuted for violating Nintendo's copyright, and part of the reasoning for criminal charges was that piracy was becoming rampant so the justice system had to act faster.

For those curious, some of the most sexualized Pokémon, like Gardevoir and Lopunny, had not appeared in the games by that time. I know people got weird about Vaporeon, but I think that's a more recent thing. So most of the porn probably would have involved the human characters like Misty. I suppose you could have got Machamp involved, or do some tentacle thing with Tangela or Tentacruel. I've attached an example I found just because I thought it was funny.
 

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Hopkinsville Goblin said:
I know people got weird about Vaporeon, but I think that's a more recent thing.
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I'm pretty sure it is, and that it's as you speculate: R18 of Pokemon was usually of the human characters, in ~2000.

The "furry" crap with both Pokemon and Sonic likely became a thing with the rise of that "furry" fandom in the '00s.
 
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ToroidalBoat said:
I'm pretty sure it is, and that it's as you speculate: R18 of Pokemon was usually of the human characters, in ~2000.

The "furry" crap with both Pokemon and Sonic really became a thing with the rise of that "furry" fandom in the '00s?
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The furry fandom comes from before the Internet, but the widespread use of the Internet pushed it into overdrive by allowing spaces for furries to congregate. I think that started a little after 2000, but before 2004. I recall at the time I was on the Something Awful forums and many people there felt that furries were maladjusted people who want to fuck animals. I recall the term "cum-stained fursuit" was in frequent use. Here are two sample quotes from the SAclopedia. They are dated to 2004, when the SAClopedia was created.

Richard "Lowtax" Kyanka:
I still maintain that the Furry Concentration Camp, in which I told all furries they could avoid being banned if they admitted being furries and getting a Star of Yiff avatar, and then one day I changed all their account privileges to only be allowed to post in the Furry Concentration Camp, and soon turned it into the Gas Chamber and mass banned them, is one of the great things many people have forgotten about this forum's history
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Chuch:
These abortions of human beings are obsessed with anthropomorphic animals and often fancy themselves as animals trapped inside a human body. The most extreme of these fuck-ups have sexual fantasies involving animals and fursuits, and can be indentified by their distinct mating call of 'yiff.' Or the cumstains on their fursuits. Revealing yourself as a furry on these forums will often get you banned on the spot, but if not that at the very least mocked and ridiculed by the rest of the community.

If one ever encounters a furry in real life the best bet is to use fire. Or just shoot them in the face.
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Ironically, the SAclopedia now has "clop" in its name.

Maybe the Sonic fandom is more about creating an OC, and that aligns well with the furries. They've been making OC's since at least the 1990s, for use in role playing games. Because Sonic characters are easy to draw and stylized, fans are encouraged to make their own hedgehogs even if they've got minimal drawing skills like you know who. If you type your first name followed "the hedgehog" into an image search you'll get plenty of OCs and they're generally not pornographic. I got like four different ones plus one literal photo of someone's pet hedgehog for my nickname, but my real name is uncommon in my country so that one didn't work for me.
 
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ToroidalBoat said:
I still don't get how anyone could be sexually attracted to (Sonic-style) hedgehogs.
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Let me tell you about a wonderful thing called rule 34. It was created to spread normal healthy sexual activity of your favorite female and male human characters. Than Furries and deviants like Chris stole and corrupted it.
 
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ToroidalBoat said:
How did "Honor Roll" end up talking the freakish way he does?

No (one with the body of a) grown man should sound like a deranged knockoff of Big Bird from Sesame Street.
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Chris's pattern of speech is extremely strange, you are correct. In early videos and the famous Sonic Contest, you can see him putting a lot of effort into forcing himself to pronounce words and say the right words. High school appeared to be the one time period in Chris's life where he spoke the best, except later, when he'd get angry or melt down, and he'd end up speaking like a relatively normal person (except the tard rage).

What's really fascinating is how Chris's speech devolved over the years because of his isolation, but it really doesn't explain the fucked up speech pattern he has. There's some southerness to it, but at the same time, there's just something really screwed up with it. I've heard some southern people speak like they have a rock in their mouth, but Chris's pattern is just odd and very hard to duplicate.

Chris definitely seems to be a creature that will try to imitate things he sees and hears, like the Lars call, but I can't figure out a piece of media that he was exposed to that would lead him to have an accent like that. There are instances of slow in the minds growing up in the 1980s that take on an English accent because at the time, the best 'tism video teaching guides were from England, thus the tard would pick up on those inflections and accents. But Chris? Who the fuck knows.
 
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Tennis-Ball-Tony said:
Chris's pattern of speech is extremely strange, you are correct. In early videos and the famous Sonic Contest, you can see him putting a lot of effort into forcing himself to pronounce words and say the right words. High school appeared to be the one time period in Chris's life where he spoke the best, except later, when he'd get angry or melt down, and he'd end up speaking like a relatively normal person (except the tard rage).

What's really fascinating is how Chris's speech devolved over the years because of his isolation, but it really doesn't explain the fucked up speech pattern he has. There's some southerness to it, but at the same time, there's just something really screwed up with it. I've heard some southern people speak like they have a rock in their mouth, but Chris's pattern is just odd and very hard to duplicate.

Chris definitely seems to be a creature that will try to imitate things he sees and hears, like the Lars call, but I can't figure out a piece of media that he was exposed to that would lead him to have an accent like that. There are instances of slow in the minds growing up in the 1980s that take on an English accent because at the time, the best 'tism video teaching guides were from England, thus the tard would pick up on those inflections and accents. But Chris? Who the fuck knows.
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I remember a few years ago I was doing both a rewatch of the first episodes of Geno's documentary and a X-Files rewatch with interviews & extras included, I was hit by how young Vince Gilligan's accent and speech pattern reminded me of early Chris (even a bit of his face, except he was slim). And indeed Vince's wikipedia page said he was born in Richmond.


Now I don't really see this likeness much anymore, maybe because I'm too used to modern Chris now, so who knows. But that wasn't the first time I heard another West Virginian accent in media and I never had that same feeling before.
 
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Hooked on phobics said:
This is correct, I'm not attempting in the slightest to justify it, but you DID ask mechanically HOW this occurred.
And lets be real, chris has NO culture, so of course the culture argument wouldn't apply.
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The internet is a "paraculture" of sorts, not bound by region or ethnicity, much like broadcast TV, but with the opposite implications.

With broadcast TV, especially during the time of the Fairness Doctrine, you only had a few channels to consume, you were lucky to see anyone you knew, and you were exposed primarily to moderate, populist ideals – these may or may not be different than what your parents and school taught you, meaning there's a chance these were part of your individual culture (in the psychological sense), but there was less dissent than even classic literature.

With the Internet, pretty much everyone you know has posted at least 1 video, and you have so many venues to choose from – and ideologies to incorporate into your belief system. You could belong to all the tribes or none of them, and no presumption necessary – until the debates start. You're exposed to writing, speech, and symbolism much more diverse than publishing houses would have allowed – and perhaps the rapid fact-checking has cleared up a lot of misinfo, but the system itself breeds misinfo. A tik-tok with factual errors will garner responses as to what its creator got right, and what they got wrong, and the tik-tok'er will still be respected. To tell even one lie as a journalist, or misquote someone, was seen as a mark on your career – one where you probably are out of a job – but online journalism often has little to do with newspapers and magazines, even on the pro level.

The line between amateur and professional is blurred – major musicians are in the same league as amateurs with laptops and ukuleles – and the latter often becomes the former. And to use music to highlight another trend – cult-following music trends have thrived online. You can make a scene without any kind of geographical dependence. It's beyond subculture – it's infraculture.

And this is where all the niche porn comes in. I don't think it's necessarily evil, but it does speak to how self-selection and the mere exposure effect are less dependent on ancestry and region than ever before.

Most of human history was the opposite – you were lucky to even see your favorite symphony or play just in your life – and if you wanted to see a painting, you had to physically be there – so most of what you were exposed to was folk art, folk music, folk theatre, created by and for the people immediately around you.

Urbanization and mass electric media did change things a bit. But you were still limited by the industries themselves – the music you listened to was most likely whatever was on the radio, and until UHF, most regions were lucky to have PBS. Degrees and formal training mattered more in the subjective arts and literature, and regulations were stricter. Niche culture did exist, but obscenity laws were also more strictly interpreted, and people would judge you for walking into the "special" sections of bookstores, video stores, etc., etc. for your porn.

Seeing the history of the Hays code and Fairness Doctrine, I'm surprised the US gov't went with a hands-off approach to regulating the internet – though I'm equally grateful.

But has the internet allowed people with these niche interests to thrive in these communities – or have they allowed people to latch onto them via familiarity? Would anyone have a mouth fetish if that wasn't the easiest form of porn to sneak on YouTube? Who knows.
 
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