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I had a random thought....
Maybe Chris has always wanted to be a tranny... I mean I remember I very interesting section from a transcript from one of clydes calls

"21:13 <@clydeC> YOU WANT TO WEAR A BRA AND PANTIES
21:13 <@clydeC> OH WAIT,YOU HAVE!
21:13 <@clydeC> AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
21:13 <@BILLY_MAYS> ZING
21:14 <%ChrisChanSonichu> Clothing does not make a person.
21:14 <@clydeC> THAT ISN'T CLOTHING CHRIS
21:14 <@clydeC> IT IS YOUR DESIRE TO BE A GIRL
21:14 <@clydeC> THAT IS SHOWING
21:14 <%ChrisChanSonichu> Bras and Panties are considered UNDERWEAR, and UNDERWEAR is a type of CLOTHING. "

I don't know if this means anything to Chris current state.

But maybe he does generally feel the way he does...

Or maybe he is just doing it because he can... I am not to sure
just a random thought
 
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I had a random thought....
Maybe Chris has always wanted to be a tranny... I mean I remember I very interesting section from a transcript from one of clydes calls

"21:13 <@clydeC> YOU WANT TO WEAR A BRA AND PANTIES
21:13 <@clydeC> OH WAIT,YOU HAVE!
21:13 <@clydeC> AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
21:13 <@BILLY_MAYS> ZING
21:14 <%ChrisChanSonichu> Clothing does not make a person.
21:14 <@clydeC> THAT ISN'T CLOTHING CHRIS
21:14 <@clydeC> IT IS YOUR DESIRE TO BE A GIRL
21:14 <@clydeC> THAT IS SHOWING
21:14 <%ChrisChanSonichu> Bras and Panties are considered UNDERWEAR, and UNDERWEAR is a type of CLOTHING. "

I don't know if this means anything to Chris current state.

But maybe he does generally feel the way he does...

Or maybe he is just doing it because he can... I am not to sure
just a random thought

Good find. This may be an early indication of his later tendencies.
 
So guys, regarding the rental house, do we know anything new? Did I miss something?
The last thing I read here during the summer was a date, september 22 (or 27, 28) and they would be evicted.
 
As far as I know Chris in Barb's underwear was done at the request of a sweetheart or something, but correct me if I'm wrong. That pic just came out of like nowhere back then.
The greatest irony really is what's pointed in the CWCki article - the whole DIRTY CRAPPED BRIEFS thing came from Chris loudly trying to prove that he doesn't wear women's underwear... and years later, he openly does it anyway, with :briefs: being in vain.
 
As far as I know Chris in Barb's underwear was done at the request of a sweetheart or something, but correct me if I'm wrong. That pic just came out of like nowhere back then.
I think it was extortion, maybe for his PSN password.
 
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I think it was extortion, maybe for his PSN password.
That reminds me, am I the only one who feels bad for Chris ever having his PSN hacked?
Make no mistake, in cases like Julay he gave it away through his own volition while behaving irrational, and in case of PS3 destruction he was just being extremely stupid by thinking he could collect the bounty by destroying it himself. However, actively hacking someone's account is a bad thing that could be done to anyone and no one deserves it even if he wastes money on shit he doesn't use.
 
I had a random thought....
Maybe Chris has always wanted to be a tranny... I mean I remember I very interesting section from a transcript from one of clydes calls

"21:13 <@clydeC> YOU WANT TO WEAR A BRA AND PANTIES
21:13 <@clydeC> OH WAIT,YOU HAVE!
21:13 <@clydeC> AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
21:13 <@BILLY_MAYS> ZING
21:14 <%ChrisChanSonichu> Clothing does not make a person.
21:14 <@clydeC> THAT ISN'T CLOTHING CHRIS
21:14 <@clydeC> IT IS YOUR DESIRE TO BE A GIRL
21:14 <@clydeC> THAT IS SHOWING
21:14 <%ChrisChanSonichu> Bras and Panties are considered UNDERWEAR, and UNDERWEAR is a type of CLOTHING. "

I don't know if this means anything to Chris current state.

But maybe he does generally feel the way he does...

Or maybe he is just doing it because he can... I am not to sure
just a random thought
Not a call, it's an IRC chat, as you can see.

But yeah, nah, that's just evidence of Chris being a dumb dumb. He's making excuses that don't make any sense because he's dumb.
So guys, regarding the rental house, do we know anything new? Did I miss something?
The last thing I read here during the summer was a date, september 22 (or 27, 28) and they would be evicted.
14BC isn't back and they haven't been cut a check, so they've must have an extension. Until more information surfaces, assume they're fine.
That reminds me, am I the only one who feels bad for Chris ever having his PSN hacked?
Make no mistake, in cases like Julay he gave it away through his own volition while behaving irrational, and in case of PS3 destruction he was just being extremely stupid by thinking he could collect the bounty by destroying it himself. However, actively hacking someone's account is a bad thing that could be done to anyone and no one deserves it even if he wastes money on shit he doesn't use.
Pfft, nothing was ever "hacked". We've used the "hacking" excuse with Chris a dozen times. He takes the "hacking" excuse rather than admit a girlfriend he gave the password to screwed him over.
 
There has been a lot of criticism
I had a random thought....
Maybe Chris has always wanted to be a tranny... I mean I remember I very interesting section from a transcript from one of clydes calls

"21:13 <@clydeC> YOU WANT TO WEAR A BRA AND PANTIES
21:13 <@clydeC> OH WAIT,YOU HAVE!
21:13 <@clydeC> AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
21:13 <@BILLY_MAYS> ZING
21:14 <%ChrisChanSonichu> Clothing does not make a person.
21:14 <@clydeC> THAT ISN'T CLOTHING CHRIS
21:14 <@clydeC> IT IS YOUR DESIRE TO BE A GIRL
21:14 <@clydeC> THAT IS SHOWING
21:14 <%ChrisChanSonichu> Bras and Panties are considered UNDERWEAR, and UNDERWEAR is a type of CLOTHING. "

I don't know if this means anything to Chris current state.

But maybe he does generally feel the way he does...

Or maybe he is just doing it because he can... I am not to sure
just a random thought

You can trace his evolution a little more carefully. I believe this conversation was about a time Chris was tricked into releasing a picture of him wearing his mother's underwear. Which he was upset about and didn't think meant anything. Fair point to him I think.

Then there was the muscle bra incident. He had some moobs which apparently were causing him problems, and decided to buy some sports bras. I suppose that is fine. But his reactions to wearing it was so over the top.

"OMG, WOW! This material feel so, so, so good on my skin. It's like a Guitly Pleasure or something."

That quote is quite telling to me. That is a ridiculous amount of satisfaction. Maybe other guys with pronounced breasts find them nice to wear when exercising. But a 3 for $10 bra feeling so so good on his skin? I don't really buy it. And the phrase guilty pleasure is pretty telling.

I think that is one of the first signs of his transvestism. It really sounds like he had a bit of an epiphany when he put the bra on. I think that this is decent evidence that there is more to his transvestism than just an attempt to get attention or china. There is something fundamental about dressing as a woman that appeals to him.

I respect Chris' commitment to wearing women's clothes. Sure it looks bad, but he puts up with a lot of shit from his mother, and others I am sure, to do it. It doesn't really give him any tangible benefit, and it isn't a product of laziness. He is actually standing up and very publicly representing a fundamental aspect of his identity. For a man who isn't known for bravery or strength, this is a fairly brave and strong thing.

As an aside: I have always been intrigued with trensvestite's motivations. I wear "male" clothes because I am male, and that is what males do. I don't feel that wearing pants rather than a skirt means anything fundamental to me. If I home alone and not going to see anyone, I wouldn't care at all about what I was wearing. So I don't have a great understanding of the the idea of someone "being more comfortable" in the clothes of the opposite gender. I don't dispute that it is very real, it just represents a much more fundamental attachment to clothes than I have ever felt. But Chris has always felt that clothes are fairly fundamental. He took the classic shirt very seriously, took Liquid Chris' brown shirt very seriously, took the ring and medallion very seriously. Even in the clown shirt era, the way he talked about his clothes being a part of his identity was somewhat reminiscent of the way transvestites think about it. I don't know if that means anything.
 
It would be my guess that Chrissy places so much importance on clothes because they tell him a lot socially about the person. His autism restricts his ability to pick up on more subtle clue so maybe this was his way of identifying people and their roles?

Maybe he thinks by changing his clothes he can change is role?

I dunno, I would have bet that once Barb put her foot down he would have folded like tissue but he still sticks with the tranny schtick despite her constant heckling. That's pretty uncharacteristic for him. So maybe the woman's clothes fulfill a deep need for him. With Chrissy it's always hard to guess what he's really thinking.
 
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This talk about Chris PSN being "hacked" reminded me of something:

Bob Chandler said:
You know what they just did a week ago? They just broke into his checking account, got his checking account numbers and routing numbers they- they broke into his Best Buy Mastercard number, and they stole his ID, and- and all of his uh... Password information they went into that Best Buy checking account, trying to ruin his credit, and made a payoff on a check that had no funds in the checking account. Which got him a whole bunch uh- of of non-sufficient fund fees. Now this all transpired a week ago

(From the Matthew Noble call)

There was any truth on this? Or (as I assume) this was Chris using the trolls to cover his ass on his retarded spending sprees so his parents dont yell at him?
 
This talk about Chris PSN being "hacked" reminded me of something:



(From the Matthew Noble call)

There was any truth on this? Or (as I assume) this was Chris using the trolls to cover his ass on his retarded spending sprees so his parents dont yell at him?
Chris gave his password to someone, they ordered Chris something online and overdrafted his account.
What about Jack Thaddeus though?
Hmm?
 
However, actively hacking someone's account is a bad thing that could be done to anyone and no one deserves it even if he wastes money on shit he doesn't use.
Well, yeah, anyone who doesn't think that has something wrong with their head. But it was also funny. Which is why they did it.

As an aside: I have always been intrigued with trensvestite's motivations. I wear "male" clothes because I am male, and that is what males do. I don't feel that wearing pants rather than a skirt means anything fundamental to me. If I home alone and not going to see anyone, I wouldn't care at all about what I was wearing. So I don't have a great understanding of the the idea of someone "being more comfortable" in the clothes of the opposite gender. I don't dispute that it is very real, it just represents a much more fundamental attachment to clothes than I have ever felt. But Chris has always felt that clothes are fairly fundamental. He took the classic shirt very seriously, took Liquid Chris' brown shirt very seriously, took the ring and medallion very seriously. Even in the clown shirt era, the way he talked about his clothes being a part of his identity was somewhat reminiscent of the way transvestites think about it. I don't know if that means anything.

I don't know a whole lot about transvestism, but I think with people like Ed Wood, Jr. and Edgar Hoover, it was about feeling close to their mothers. With Chris, though, I think it has more to do with his gender identity, actually in large part for the examples you mentioned about clothes being fundamental to identity in his mind.
 
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Not a call, it's an IRC chat, as you can see.

But yeah, nah, that's just evidence of Chris being a dumb dumb. He's making excuses that don't make any sense because he's dumb.

My bad should of noticed it was an IRC Chat
you do make a point I guess I could call denial however that would make me sound dense.
That being ruled out do you think this is all for attention? Because if Chris was really Trans would he be showing signs his whole life? (Correct me if I am wrong)

There has been a lot of criticism


You can trace his evolution a little more carefully. I believe this conversation was about a time Chris was tricked into releasing a picture of him wearing his mother's underwear. Which he was upset about and didn't think meant anything. Fair point to him I think.

Then there was the muscle bra incident. He had some moobs which apparently were causing him problems, and decided to buy some sports bras. I suppose that is fine. But his reactions to wearing it was so over the top.

"OMG, WOW! This material feel so, so, so good on my skin. It's like a Guitly Pleasure or something."

That quote is quite telling to me. That is a ridiculous amount of satisfaction. Maybe other guys with pronounced breasts find them nice to wear when exercising. But a 3 for $10 bra feeling so so good on his skin? I don't really buy it. And the phrase guilty pleasure is pretty telling.

I think that is one of the first signs of his transvestism. It really sounds like he had a bit of an epiphany when he put the bra on. I think that this is decent evidence that there is more to his transvestism than just an attempt to get attention or china. There is something fundamental about dressing as a woman that appeals to him.

I respect Chris' commitment to wearing women's clothes. Sure it looks bad, but he puts up with a lot of shit from his mother, and others I am sure, to do it. It doesn't really give him any tangible benefit, and it isn't a product of laziness. He is actually standing up and very publicly representing a fundamental aspect of his identity. For a man who isn't known for bravery or strength, this is a fairly brave and strong thing.

As an aside: I have always been intrigued with trensvestite's motivations. I wear "male" clothes because I am male, and that is what males do. I don't feel that wearing pants rather than a skirt means anything fundamental to me. If I home alone and not going to see anyone, I wouldn't care at all about what I was wearing. So I don't have a great understanding of the the idea of someone "being more comfortable" in the clothes of the opposite gender. I don't dispute that it is very real, it just represents a much more fundamental attachment to clothes than I have ever felt. But Chris has always felt that clothes are fairly fundamental. He took the classic shirt very seriously, took Liquid Chris' brown shirt very seriously, took the ring and medallion very seriously. Even in the clown shirt era, the way he talked about his clothes being a part of his identity was somewhat reminiscent of the way transvestites think about it. I don't know if that means anything.
Very good points however would he also be wearing that bra because he is disgusted with the male naked chest?
 
I don't know a whole lot about transvestism, but I think with people like Ed Wood, Jr. and Edgar Hoover, it was about feeling close to their mothers. With Chris, though, I think it has more to do with his gender identity, actually in large part for the examples you mentioned about clothes being fundamental to identity in his mind.
I think in Chris' case, it's partly a comfort thing. The simple fact is, he does have huge tits for a guy, so I would imagine a bra would indeed feel incredibly comfortable. There's also the fact that he likes things that feel soft, which I believe was his justification for having My Little Ponies, which would also be served by women's clothing. Not that I'm saying pure comfort is by any means the only factor, or even the main one, but I think it's definitely important.
 
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