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Has anyone else noticed the absolute hard denial from leftists and trannies alike that this is a social contagion? I'm trying to wrap my head around it but every single time I see it being mentioned as one they fly off the handles claiming it couldn't POSSIBLY be true... despite every single sign pointing to it being the case.

I know they thrive on denial but seeing them seethe at the mere thought it could be influenced socially is something that really puzzles me.
 
I know they thrive on denial but seeing them seethe at the mere thought it could be influenced socially is something that really puzzles me
If they were to admit that the social contagion element is real, they would need to acknowledge that transgenderism is a mental illness.

By definition, a social contagion implies that it's not innate and can ne manipulated and influenced, and that it can go away just like other social contagions we've seen in the past - like the people who danced themselves to death, the meowing nuns, or anorexia and bulimia.

They must maintain the line that being trans is an innate quality. Because otherwise, it really makes trans identities seem like a choice. If its a choice then there's no reason for them to receive any sympathy or health care benefits, or validation at all. If being trans is a choice that anyone can make, that means that it's not special and not worthy of protection.
 
Has anyone else noticed the absolute hard denial from leftists and trannies alike that this is a social contagion? I'm trying to wrap my head around it but every single time I see it being mentioned as one they fly off the handles claiming it couldn't POSSIBLY be true... despite every single sign pointing to it being the case.

I know they thrive on denial but seeing them seethe at the mere thought it could be influenced socially is something that really puzzles me.
I've definitely noticed it.

They're not interested in the science though.

Mermaids used to say on their website that the vast majority of kids who suffer from gender identity issues will grow out of it, with many realising that they're just gay. They also said that those issues can be caused by things like trauma and abuse. But now, this shit is just one big religious cult based around "gendered souls" and binary gender stereotypes that the people peddling this shit ought to find offensive.

They will equate it to the gay rights movement, where of course there were people who said that being gay was "unnatural" and what not, but if a kid says "I think I might be gay", nobody pushed them to go and take hormones/puberty blockers, or cut their tits or cock off. If that kid turns out not to be gay, they're all good and nobody looks at them like they're some kind of traitor, but detransitioners are treated like apostates and mocked and laughed at by grotesque troons.
 
Honestly, I can see how these people almost get addicted to this. If I was a teenager now I probably would call myself non-binary at the very least, I don’t know if I’d go quite as far as to take testosterone but I’d be involved in this to a degree. More and more people are getting older and waking up. It’ll be a very interesting next decade.
Had it not gone mainstream through activist groups and the like I imagine gender identity as we know it, especially non binary, would have remained a silly online subculture that kids typically grow out of. When it was limited to Tumblr and similar sites during my teens I was certain anyone claiming such an identity at school would get teased relentlessly, called "it" and asked "so you want to get your vagina sewn shut?" (or dick cut off, if it was a boy going NB but we all know that's less common) and there was a lot more pushback from family, teachers and medical professionals.

The comparison has definitely been made before by many people but imagine if these kids were instead asking for a face tattoo and their parents said yes, then they went on to regret it upon discovering nobody would take them seriously and they'd ruined their chances of getting a job. Because that's exactly what's happening with gender.
 
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Has anyone else noticed the absolute hard denial from leftists and trannies alike that this is a social contagion? I'm trying to wrap my head around it but every single time I see it being mentioned as one they fly off the handles claiming it couldn't POSSIBLY be true... despite every single sign pointing to it being the case.

I know they thrive on denial but seeing them seethe at the mere thought it could be influenced socially is something that really puzzles me.
They’re like that with a lot of things. Like, they’ll have a good chuckle about the fact that so many troons are autistic, but never once admit that the two are connected. Or they’ll freely admit that wearing a skirt gives them a boner, but deny that AGP even exists. All of them secretly know that they were not always women, and I think a lot of them know that everyone’s telling the same lies.
 
Has anyone else noticed the absolute hard denial from leftists and trannies alike that this is a social contagion? I'm trying to wrap my head around it but every single time I see it being mentioned as one they fly off the handles claiming it couldn't POSSIBLY be true... despite every single sign pointing to it being the case.

I know they thrive on denial but seeing them seethe at the mere thought it could be influenced socially is something that really puzzles me.
I've noticed this at least when in comes to non binary, genderfluid, etc. TRAs can't decide whether those things are social contagion/fads or if they're real things. Big example is when I saw this tweet last night. Gender criticals were calling out these girls because they think nonbinary is when girls wear baggy clothing. TRAs in the comments tried to play the "They're just having fun! No need to take it seriously." Hell, I saw a TRA go as far as to say "None of these girls are really non binary." Basically, non binary is real up until you challenge them. By that point they just pretend that its just a fashion choice that shouldn't be taken seriously.

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Once I called bullshit on nonbinary, and that girl sent me later some photos of her outfits (like, thoughtfully put together quite boyish ones) and asked literally ''How could you think I am not queer, when I dress like this?'' Fast forward about half a year, every other girl outside is dressed like a boy, because it's fashionable now where we live.

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Wish I could clockwork orange these people through the entirety of the SRS thread.

It's funny that when transphobes are TOO understanding/empathetic it's suspicious, a thou doth protest too much situation, and yet if the transphobes aren't understanding enough it's because they simply couldn't understand the depths of the gender feelings. Nothing except acquiescence will do.
 
As for the fashion, I looked at Zalando and found some random outfits, that are sold to girls nowadays and they really do wear such ones IRL. One would say, that enby trend dies, when ''the other girls'' they totally aren't like, start to look quite like them. But that did not happen by now,
It seems the genderqueers (will) have to resort to more and more garish, hideous and mismatched 'fits, so they will go full circle and through the most faggy outfits imaginable they return to style like girls again. That's already happening sometimes.

I remember that many years ago I'd wear something like the little girl is wearing, and I was called hermaphrodite for that (yeah, no words like tomboy then) , maybe that's the reason I was always quite dismissive to other boxes than man and woman, .
The point is, fashion changes, the biological reality doesn't.

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Wish I could clockwork orange these people through the entirety of the SRS thread.

It's funny that when transphobes are TOO understanding/empathetic it's suspicious, a thou doth protest too much situation, and yet if the transphobes aren't understanding enough it's because they simply couldn't understand the depths of the gender feelings. Nothing except acquiescence will do.
There are negative aspects to being a male. There are negative aspects to being a female. There are things that either side envies and idealizes from the other. There are things that both sexes attempt to escape from or run towards when attempting to transition. Getting your head around the idea that both sexes have it hard shouldn’t be complicated.

Men will never experience the life of a natural born woman — no amount of fetishization of female bodily function, or FOMO on perceived sorority, will ever change the fact that men cannot experience those things first hand. To try to experience it first hand is to reduce womanhood to a list of traits and social checkboxes. Its insulting and denigrating to your fellow man of the opposite sex.

Women will never experience the life of a natural born man — no amount of pining for the experience of peeing standing up, or FOMO on perceived fraternity, will ever change the fact that women cannot experience those things first hand. To try to experience it first hand is to reduce manhood to a list of traits and social checkboxes. Its insulting and denigrating to your fellow man of the opposite sex.

Envy and Idealization is where those feelings should remain. Ideally, they should be grown out of. Grown bigger than.

Its natural to see a group of girls going downtown dolled up and wonder what its like. Its natural to see a group of men at a bar cutting it up and wonder what thats like. To not wonder about those things indicates shallowness and a lack of curiosity about the world around you and the people in it.

Someone saying “I get it, man, but hear me out,” to a tranny, only to have “the lady doth protest too much,” shot back at them is so horrifically, bafflingly stupid. You fucking cultist. You ignorant, stupid fucking cultist. I am connecting with you and attempting to understand you. Shut the fuck up. I’m not a part of your cult. I’m another human being just like you.
 
I feel stupid for asking this: but is that "DSD" shit is just a fancy of saying they're a man with fucked up hardware? And the media's just manipulating us by claiming that a woman is a woman, even if they have internal testicles, higher testosterone and XY chromosomes?

Cause that's the excuse they're using for "female" athletes like Barbra Banda (who supposedly failed a test that prevented them from participating in the African Women's World Cup), and the two male boxers (China/Taipei's Lin Yu Ting and Algeria's Imane Khalif) who they swear up and down aren't TIMs.

If they were to admit that the social contagion element is real, they would need to acknowledge that transgenderism is a mental illness.

By definition, a social contagion implies that it's not innate and can ne manipulated and influenced, and that it can go away just like other social contagions we've seen in the past - like the people who danced themselves to death, the meowing nuns, or anorexia and bulimia.

They must maintain the line that being trans is an innate quality. Because otherwise, it really makes trans identities seem like a choice. If its a choice then there's no reason for them to receive any sympathy or health care benefits, or validation at all. If being trans is a choice that anyone can make, that means that it's not special and not worthy of protection.
Exactly. The whole movement is built on manipulation and lies because it falls apart when people think for themselves. Anytime a troon has a moment of clarity, cause sniffing your sister's panties or watching too much porn is bad, they go into overdrive trying to normalize the degenerate behaviour.

There was an interesting case last year when Brown University saw like 40% of their population identify as "not-straight" (up from like 10% in 2010). If that isn't social contagion then I don't know what is.
 
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As for the fashion, I looked at Zalando and found some random outfits, that are sold to girls nowadays and they really do wear such ones IRL. One would say, that enby trend dies, when ''the other girls'' they totally aren't like, start to look quite like them. But that did not happen by now,
It seems the genderqueers (will) have to resort to more and more garish, hideous and mismatched 'fits, so they will go full circle and through the most faggy outfits imaginable they return to style like girls again. That's already happening sometimes.

I remember that many years ago I'd wear something like the little girl is wearing, and I was called hermaphrodite for that (yeah, no words like tomboy then) , maybe that's the reason I was always quite dismissive to other boxes than man and woman, .
The point is, fashion changes, the biological reality doesn't.

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Conveniently I have a former classmate in secondary school that look and dresses like the woman in the first picture but she wasn't non binary.
 
As for the fashion, I looked at Zalando and found some random outfits, that are sold to girls nowadays and they really do wear such ones IRL. One would say, that enby trend dies, when ''the other girls'' they totally aren't like, start to look quite like them. But that did not happen by now,
It seems the genderqueers (will) have to resort to more and more garish, hideous and mismatched 'fits, so they will go full circle and through the most faggy outfits imaginable they return to style like girls again. That's already happening sometimes.

I remember that many years ago I'd wear something like the little girl is wearing, and I was called hermaphrodite for that (yeah, no words like tomboy then) , maybe that's the reason I was always quite dismissive to other boxes than man and woman, .
The point is, fashion changes, the biological reality doesn't.

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The "masculinization" of women's fashion must really piss off the troons. If they'd wear what the average woman actually wears today they'd look precisely like what they are: dudes.
 
If they were to admit that the social contagion element is real, they would need to acknowledge that transgenderism is a mental illness.

By definition, a social contagion implies that it's not innate and can ne manipulated and influenced, and that it can go away just like other social contagions we've seen in the past - like the people who danced themselves to death, the meowing nuns, or anorexia and bulimia.
Social contagions I remember:
1980's: heaps of women and men started remembering their previous lives. There were big money being made by pshycologists and therapists to help people uncover and remember their previous life.
Weird though because everyone was a king or cleopatra in their previous life. No one was "bob the farmer/serf".
Everyone was talking and comparing their previous lives with others at work or at home.

1990: Electrical allergy. Seen the older brother in BetterCallSaul?
Half the population were like him in the 1990s and allergic to electricity. A lot of doctors would diagnose it and a lot of companies would come to your workplace and rewire the whole building and turn every office into basically a Faraday-cage.
Lots of money made by these companies.

2000s: Sexual abuse. Almost every woman were abused by their parents when they were young. Almost no one remembered this happening, but there were lots of pshycologist and therapists making big money helping people uncover and remember how they were abused.
Having been abused had VERY high social status.
Lots of families were destoyed.

2010: here we are now. Rape epedemic on universities, higher rates of rape at University of Bercley campus than in active war-zones in Congo. Trannyism and everyone is queer.
A lot of people and companies making big money serving this delusion.


I think I forgot one between 2000 and 2010, but doesn't matter. It happens over and over. Young women are very prone to social contagion and this happens one way or another in ever decade.
 
Social contagions I remember:
1980's: heaps of women and men started remembering their previous lives. There were big money being made by pshycologists and therapists to help people uncover and remember their previous life.
Weird though because everyone was a king or cleopatra in their previous life. No one was "bob the farmer/serf".
Everyone was talking and comparing their previous lives with others at work or at home.

1990: Electrical allergy. Seen the older brother in BetterCallSaul?
Half the population were like him in the 1990s and allergic to electricity. A lot of doctors would diagnose it and a lot of companies would come to your workplace and rewire the whole building and turn every office into basically a Faraday-cage.
Lots of money made by these companies.

2000s: Sexual abuse. Almost every woman were abused by their parents when they were young. Almost no one remembered this happening, but there were lots of pshycologist and therapists making big money helping people uncover and remember how they were abused.
Having been abused had VERY high social status.
Lots of families were destoyed.
"Repressed memories" of abuse were around long before the 2000s--it was already a thing in the 1990s.

Sometimes it had the additional detail of "Satanic ritual abuse" which would have had us believe that hundreds of thousands, if not millions of American adults were secretly in a Satanic cabal and used their own children as props in their rituals. Psychologists actually believed this stuff.

Transgender ideology is literally more unbelievable than Satanic ritual abuse. It is not impossible that adults could secretly be Satanists. It is literally impossible that men can become women.
 
1990: Electrical allergy. Seen the older brother in BetterCallSaul?
Half the population were like him in the 1990s and allergic to electricity. A lot of doctors would diagnose it and a lot of companies would come to your workplace and rewire the whole building and turn every office into basically a Faraday-cage.
Lots of money made by these companies.
I don't think it was electrical sensitivity--that really came into its own when cell phones and wifi became ubiquitous, the same way elves turned into ETs once we had airplanes and the space race.

I seem to recall multiple chemical sensitivity being the 1990s craze. "Sick buildings," people buying old carpet that had already finished off-gassing, the beginning of "fragrance-free area" signs. There was a character in the sitcom Northern Exposure with multiple chemical sensitivity, played for laughs as he was confused by being cured. To this day I misread munchie favorite MCAS as MCS; for no reason at all I'm sure.


There are also pediatric social contagions, or social contagions by proxy. Anyone whose mom would have declared them Indigo Children--in a decade they had autism or ADHD, and now they're probably a childhood transitioner.
 
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