Off-Topic Random Trans Thoughts, Musings, and Questions - For all your armchair psych and general sperging

[Arpharp8976Fire]

 

[EllenDrawsRapeOfHerHaters]

I met one troon before he trooned out. I only remember thinking that he was creepy. Me, an autistic toddler, finding someone creepy.
Now he calls himself a lesbian and claims people are groping him. Fucking disgusting.

 

[Lain The Tranny Beater]

*Incoming retard rage*

I've grown sick of having to constantly lie to my WOS professor about vibing with troons. I essentially wrote a discussion post on how sexist these overnight transbiens are. I can't tolerate some autistic sewer mutants saying I'm not feminine enough for their trailer park-looking asses. I literally found a tranny that I thought was a methed-out older woman in a Walmart. My girlfriend had to tell me it was some weirdo with a boner staring me down for looking for conditioners. There's no way in hell, I'm going to stand for the rights of these fucking ugly creatures that live in squalor. I'm certainly not going to open the door for these porn-sick loli-licking motherfuckers to have a shot at taking my rights. Why can't we go back to beating trannies in the streets? We need to kick these fuckers back out of society

 

[and I must scream]

I've seen a very succinct and accurate comment on youtube that I'd like to share. This is by a user named Ben-pp5tt:

This ideology consists of 3 different and often incompatible concepts regarding what gender is.
1 biological: gender is determined by an individual’s genetics
2 sociological: gender is a social construct in which one’s gender is determined by masculine/feminine characteristics expressed within a society
3 psychological: gender is a product of one’s subjective perception of self and is determined by personal identity

 

[TruffleSpark]

I'm not saying anything profound here but I'm sickened by how often MtF troons will threaten violence on women who disagree with them. It shouldn't surprise me and it is completely in line for troons but it always catches me off guard. More strangely, there's a ton of progressive women that will endorse that behaviour

I don't really know how to put this, but a lot of women seem to have a weakness for pathetic men. And predatory men will deliberately play up their own patheticness in order to manipulate women. Something about the whole "I'm so oppressed uwu I am a smol bean who will kill themselves if my feelings are hurt" act just destroys any common sense in a lot of women. It's sad because that empathy is something that should be a positive trait, but if you let your sense of empathy override your critical thinking you can easily become a useful idiot for something vile.

 

[Jacques1194]

2 sociological: gender is a social construct in which one’s gender is determined by masculine/feminine characteristics expressed within a society
3 psychological: gender is a product of one’s subjective perception of self and is determined by personal identity

These 2 points really annoy me, because number 2 insists that sexist stereotypes defines what a man or a woman is and yet TRAs will also tell you "We aren't about sexist stereotypes." , which if true then they should stop bringing up sociology as an argument for transgenderism.

As for psychology, again if the idea of being a man or a woman is something that's a subjective perception of one's self then how can trans people be born in the wrong body? We see this when some trans people claim sex organs have nothing to do with gender, but others claim they need surgery to remove said organs to be the man/woman they are inside. If my subjective idea for being a woman was not taking HRT, not getting any surgery, and doing masculine things that I as a AMAB person would normally do then would I be considered a "woman" if I both identified as one and believed that is what a woman should be?

 

[800 Chupacabras]

They're not. They're far more visible online and tend to visibly cluster, particularly within certain "communities", so they appear like they're everywhere, but they're not.

The current furor around pedophilia seems to have certain elements of a moral panic, too. Actual pedophiles are quite rare, but the term “child abuser” is not as succinct and pointed. There is a meaningful distinction between pedophilic child sex abusers and non-pedophilc child sex abusers. The latter constitutes a majority of CSAs, and they commit their crimes to assert power/control or as opportunistic acts, not because they are specifically attracted to children. Likewise, most CSA is committed by family and close friends/acquaintances, not ominous playground lurkers.

Staying on thread topic, I would not be surprised if the greater narcissists among the troon and gender community pushing the pedo boulders down the hill to conceal their own deviant activities and proclivities. Part of this tactic is overusing the term pedophile to dull the word, while still giving them fuel, as they are indeed pedophilic child abusers. After any word has been repeated so many times, it elicits a passive response and people stop thinking about its meaning and context. I bet people like Chris Tyson are only at the middle of the hierarchy in the global network of pedophilic gender deviants, and the people on top are more than happy to crush them as a way to divert attention.

These investigative series give a lot of context into how that upper tier of predators work - Hunting Warhead and Evil By Design. The first is about the effort to dismantle one of the world’s most prolific CSAM network and the spider in the center of that web. The second is about how fashion mogul Peter Nygard got away with raping girls and women for decades across multiple countries.

 

[AI generated waifu]

These 2 points really annoy me, because number 2 insists that sexist stereotypes defines what a man or a woman is and yet TRAs will also tell you "We aren't about sexist stereotypes." , which if true then they should stop bringing up sociology as an argument for transgenderism.

As for psychology, again if the idea of being a man or a woman is something that's a subjective perception of one's self then how can trans people be born in the wrong body? We see this when some trans people claim sex organs have nothing to do with gender, but others claim they need surgery to remove said organs to be the man/woman they are inside. If my subjective idea for being a woman was not taking HRT, not getting any surgery, and doing masculine things that I as a AMAB person would normally do then would I be considered a "woman" if I both identified as one and believed that is what a woman should be?

Weirdly, they would say yes. In order to try and support 'non passing' or low effort transwomen (as well as the ones who simply don't want to medicate), arguing things like 'transwomen don't owe you femininity'.

Of course, that's easy enough to say on line. In real life, the cognitive dissonance might be a bit much.

 

[TruffleSpark]

good god, the shit I see on tumblr

guess I will post it here since I don't know what other thread this would fit in

Spoiler: text

i was in prostitution for years and one of the most common fetishes was forced feminization. for men the most humiliating thing they could possibly be is a woman. it’s a humiliation kink.
they would ask me to send them out to get fucked by men for money. because what is a woman? a woman is a hole to be fucked. that was the most humiliating thing they could imagine, being the one that is fucked.
some of them lived their forced feminization fetish full time, they called themselves trans women and truly believed they were women on the inside, while simultaneously getting a boner every time they would get their nails done by underpaid vietnamese women or when they put on the ugliest plastic wigs.
being in the sex industry for years has taught me that cross dressing is a) incredibly common and b) there’s a lot of men who live their fetishes full time.
there’s a reason why so many middle age heterosexual men are coming out as "trans women" now. it’s getting more and more accepted and they’re happy to live their fetish now fully excepted, even being able to claim being a "lesbian" and forcing lesbians to have sex with them, which ultimately affirms their womanhood.
if we don’t stand up against sexually deviant men they’ll take all of our spaces eventually.

 

[Idiot Sandwich the 3rd]

I know this might be a little bit of a sperg but i really dislike the fact that normal people hate on people who don't conform to gender roles (tomboys, butches, effeminate men, crossdressers) and LGBs because of troons, and I mean mostly conservative people. One can't be a slightly masculine woman without people assuming that we're troons and were gonna groom children as well.
I understand that nowadays one can't really trust people that don't fully conform, but it is so frustrating how these degenerates made the general acceptance of these kinds of groups go back. It is frustrating because they're right to be suspicious, you can't tell if a crossdresser is just a man who likes feminine fashion or a man with a fetish for a stereotypically female self of himself that wants to touch your kids.
I hate when TRAs say that they are not affecting us, because they are, they're affecting all of us negatively, they're taking the progress backwards and ruining acceptance of gay and GNC people for the sake of their fucking fetish

 

[Aunt Carol]

they're taking the progress backwards and ruining acceptance of gay and GNC people for the sake of their fucking fetish

Because anyone who isn't "gender-conforming" but doesn't claim to be trans weakens the trans argument. You can't be a butch woman and be happy; women aren't butch!

(Never mind the phenomenon of "butch transbians;" that's OK, you see. Because trans.)

 

[WSPWSPWSPWSP]

To go back to the topic of the link between Transgenderism and Transhumanism, I believe this is why a lot of Serial Experiments Lain fans are also trannies.

To quote this paper:

"The connections to transhumanism found within the metamodern state are pronounced in Serial Experiments Lain. A socially awkward and isolated teen girl discovers her true self within the internet and through the avenue of technology, achieves enlightenment and ascendance to godhood. This is not unlike the transcendentalist search for the true self through the medium of nature. Themes of death and rebirth, self-discovery and transcendence flood its symbols and images. While the anime is quite often disturbing and dystopian, the final episode leaves the viewer with a feeling of resolution and sublimity. All the hardships experienced by Lain up until that point have been settled through technology—with the infinite power of a god now in her hands—to do with as she pleases"

Trannies think they are above biology, that they are a god and can reinvent themselves to escape pain. The internet is their "reality", which they can shape to their liking and stay within circles that continue their delusions. Neurosis inevitably ensues when reality kicks down the door.

 

[TittlyWinks ;)]

Not really that random, but some thoughts -

Take care of and put time aside for your aging parents and loved ones, guys. You never know when things can take a very bad turn, and fast. I guess that's pretty much it.

 

[TittlyWinks ;)]

Oh wow I'm dumb as a brick. Searched for a "random thoughts" thread because someone else mentioned it, found this one and it seemed semi active, totally didn't see the "trans" qualifier.

Fuck it, I still stand by my generic sappy advice. Unless you hate your parents I guess... then whatever. Just make sure to drain their credit cards BEFORE they pass.

 

[AMHOLIO]

Oh wow I'm dumb as a brick. Searched for a "random thoughts" thread because someone else mentioned it, found this one and it seemed semi active, totally didn't see the "trans" qualifier.

Fuck it, I still stand by my generic sappy advice. Unless you hate your parents I guess... then whatever. Just make sure to drain their credit cards BEFORE they pass.

If it helps I stand by it too since it's actually important.

 

[sheepworldvizor]

Being trans means being unhappy.

It’s the same thing.

A constant and never-ending state of unhappiness. They chase the next step, the next euphoria, the next ‘passing’, the next surgery, the next selfie, the next upvote, the next external validation, the next ‘win’ against their imaginary enemies and it’s never enough.

Any brief moment of stillness and calm is gone before they have time to realize, they are the wrongness.

You cannot bend yourself to fit the world and you cannot bend the world to fit yourself.

 

[Wallace]

Being trans means being unhappy.

It’s the same thing.

A constant and never-ending state of unhappiness. They chase the next step, the next euphoria, the next ‘passing’, the next surgery, the next selfie, the next upvote, the next external validation, the next ‘win’ against their imaginary enemies and it’s never enough.

Any brief moment of stillness and calm is gone before they have time to realize, they are the wrongness.

You cannot bend yourself to fit the world and you cannot bend the world to fit yourself.

But it also means that your unhappiness isn't your fault. For people who are already miserable, having something else to blame your misery on is great. Being trans also means the abdication of responsibility.

People who get addicted to drugs almost always have other, deep-seated problems they don't want to deal with, so they get high in order to pretend the problem isn't there/real.

 

[Hellriegel]

Why is there so many trannies using the farms? I don't mean those who detransed, but actual current troons.

 

[Tragi-Chan]

Why is there so many trannies using the farms? I don't mean those who detransed, but actual current troons.

Lots of reasons. One of the big ones is that this is one of the only places where you can freely talk about other troons negatively. Whether you’re gathering evidence for a cancellation or you just think Erin Reed is an annoying faggot, there’s nowhere else you can go without being attacked.

Some believe that they themselves are true and honest women, but the ones we laugh at are not. I very much enjoyed the slapfights between Dee Price and Tommy Tooter over which one was the actual woman.

Some think they can go undercover and turn us, using such clever psychological tactics as calling us incels.

And some are just catty, autistic bitches like the rest of us.

 

[TruffleSpark]

X-Post from a post I made on @Hassou Tobi's profile because if I am going to sperg this hard I might as well put it in a proper thread:

I started thinking about this because of trannies, but I think it is a broader problem with liberals. They have the fantasy world that exists inside their heads, and they have actual material reality, and the big project of their lives is to erase the boundary between those two worlds. They think if they believe in it hard enough their fantasy world will become real, and they get angry when this fails to actually happen.

In order for trans ideology to make sense they kind of need to fall back to sex denialism. Gender (to the extent that such an abstract concept can be said to exist) is based on sex. It's the sociological category you are sorted into based on your sex. One can't fill the social role of another sex any more than they can the social role of another race, or age, or height. Most TRAs have a fuzzy enough view of reality that they can allow material reality and their own subjective view of reality to exist side by side, most of the time at least. But for the real autists who need it to make sense they are going to realise that the only way to form a logically coherent view of the world where someone can go back and forth between male and female social roles is if they make it so that sex is not a real thing that can be objectively measured in material reality.

I'm trying to think back to what I used to believe when I still bought into this crap. I knew there was a difference between "transwomen" and "ciswomen" but I thought that on some sort of ontological level "transwomen" had a sort of female essence that "cismen" don't have. It's all extremely embarrassing in hindsight, it took a bit of humility to admit that I was just as vulnerable to magical thinking as anyone else as long as it was presented in a left wing approved framework of oppressor vs oppressed. When you spend enough time around troons it's hard not to see that they are literally just men who like to play dress up, yet somehow some people gaslight themselves into thinking otherwise.

I don't think the left really thinks that men can become women, or have always been women, or that man and woman don't exist as distinct categories (the exact stated beliefs are a bit inconsistent.) Although it's a bit hard to figure out what TRAs really believe because there is a lot of doublethink going on. But I think a few reasons lefties support troons are:

1) There's something like weaponized empathy going on with troons. I think the left more than the right is willing to suspend critical thinking to take the side of someone they perceive as a victim. I'm thinking of that 4chan copypasta with the line "you excel at nothing except social manipulation". Trannies are good at playing on people's emotions in order to manipulate them, they often play up their own patheticness in order to elicit sympathy.

2) It makes them feel smart, people in the left wing facebook groups I am in get a kick out of seeing right wingers not comprehending their weird jargon, a big thing on the left is a strongly felt but vaguely defined hatred of stupid people, where stupidity is often conflated with a lack of formal education and intelligence is conflated with an ability to understand in group jargon. This ties into how the left loves "science" but also they have little to no understanding of scientific methodology. They think science is a collection of facts, not an epistemological process that you can use to try and discern facts.

3) Among left wing women, I think they have got the idea into their heads that to acknowledge that women are different from men is the same as saying that women are inferior to men. So by erasing the distinction between men and women they think they are achieving equality to men. Ironically, all they are doing is erasing the language that makes it possible to identify inequality which makes it impossible to address.

4) Among left wing men, it gives them a way to openly express hatred of women without having to align themselves with the right. You're not allowed to say "I want to behead women" but "I want to behead TERFs" is fine. So it's easy to just use "TERFs" as shorthand for "woman whom I dislike and wish violence upon" It also helps them maintain their perceived right to sexual access to women. After all, if a lesbian isn't allowed to turn a tranny down without being called transphobic then women's boundaries are no longer absolutes but rather negotiable things that can be pushed under the right circumstances. This helps even men who don't identity as things put pressure on women because just knowing that there is one scenario where they can't say know without becoming outcasts is going to have women questioning where else they are also not allowed to say no.

That's what I can think of right now, I'm sure there are other reasons, trans ideology is a big confusing soup of internally contradictory beliefs, and it's difficult to make sense of it. So not all of these reasons may necessarily be shared by all TRAs. But I think it does give some insight into why transgender has gained mainstream acceptance and other trans identities (e.g trans race) have not.

Sorry for the weird formatting, I don't know how to link directly to a profile post. I did a bit of editing anyway so it's not an exact 1 to 1 quote. The 4chan copypasta is the "rent free" one, included here for the benefit of those who have not seen it: